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RCdc -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 11:14:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix Actually, the first time any talk of genital exposure was made, it was by the girl who has exposed herself to "an unsuspecting public". Yes, but that was on another thread. She said on this, she saw her mistake and asked for other other possible tasks. She didnt say - please give me other sexual tasks. That was assumed. Not implied on this particular thread. the.dark.

camille65 -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 11:16:10 AM)
I have to really agree here, it seems that a lot assumed that it was the same thing as her previous thread but I thought from her post she was seeking ideas on non-genital exposing. That felt implicit to me.

DesFIP -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 11:32:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 I have to really agree here, it seems that a lot assumed that it was the same thing as her previous thread but I thought from her post she was seeking ideas on non-genital exposing. That felt implicit to me. Funny, I assumed it was understood that these were to be inappropriate exhibitionist ideas. Probably because she again included the word public. She'd do better to come back and clarify if she really wants helpful ideas. Hard to help when none of us understand what she's looking for.

camille65 -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 11:50:08 AM)
I'm not going to go look because I'm having a lazy moment [:D] but here is the reasoning behind why I see it that way.By the end of the other thread her views on it seemed to have changed, and she seemed to be questing for ideas that were similiar in nature without going as far as her previous thread went. This thread opened with her saying that it wasn't well thought out and she was looking for new ideas, new ways to go about 'semi-public' but in a way that didn't make it an open and obvious act.

RCdc -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 11:50:52 AM)
If someone really wants to know and not make assumptions they can take the time to ask hey or not assume the 'worst'. But it's easier for people to come down on a person publically, than approach them directly. .thatspeopleforyahey.[;)] the.dark.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 1:04:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix Actually, the first time any talk of genital exposure was made, it was by the girl who has exposed herself to "an unsuspecting public". Yes, but that was on another thread. She said on this, she saw her mistake and asked for other other possible tasks. She didnt say - please give me other sexual tasks. That was assumed. Not implied on this particular thread. the.dark. I believe she is referring to me. Except her understanding of my post is entirely wrong, as nowhere have I said my genitals were ever exposed, nor have I said anything about fingering. I said I had been exposed to an unsuspecting public. I believe it was assumed at that point that I meant I had exposed the world at large to genetalia and fluids, and had conducted sexual acts in public. My actual quote was "He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public (minus minors)." How having sex in public and actually exposing genetalia to minors was taken from that is beyond me, but it goes to show how people can draw inaccurate conclusions and form opinions based on that. It happens to the best of us, and it's why so many people have communication issues.

ClubMix -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 3:19:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark If someone really wants to know and not make assumptions they can take the time to ask hey or not assume the 'worst'. But it's easier for people to come down on a person publically, than approach them directly. .thatspeopleforyahey.[;)] the.dark. Yeah, that IS people for you, yourself included. If you`ll take a moment to look back, I was NOT talking about the OP, I was talking about "ownedgirlie", who specifically stated that she has engaged in public exposure.

ClubMix -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 3:20:39 PM)
Good questions! I wonder, for the folks getting upset over public displays... * Do you watch R rated movies? * Did you ever watch NYPD Blue or Sex and the City? * Did you protest NYPD Blue's decision to show T&A on public television? * Do you go to public beaches, where girls wear thong bikinis? * Do you get offended by men who put those chrome nudie girls on their tire flaps? * Are you so offended by a woman's breast that you think it is an obsene image? * Is it the nipple in particular that is so upsetting or any kind of cleavage? 1.) Yes, I sometimes seek out and purposely view R rated movies in my own home, or in a theater full of age-appropriate patrons, who also sought out, and are purposely viewing said R rated movie. 2.) Can`t say that I have. 3.) Can`t say that I did. Did the "T&A" session show explicit body parts, such as, oh, I dunno, a DD breast, complete with nipple? Did the show in question come with a warning? Did they specifically say "this could be offensive" before the show started? Was there a rating for the program in the TV guide? Were people given every indication of what was to come, and did those who still chose to view it, indeed choose to do so? 4.) Yes, I go to public places where "socially-unacceptable body part", including nipples, are kept covered by bikini`s. 5.) No. I really don`t see why this question is even being asked? I hardly think a blacked-out, non-explicit silhouette of a woman if sexually offensive. Tacky, maybe by some standards, but other than that, unremarkably socially acceptable. 6.) Context, my dear. I`m bisexual. I fuck women. When I make the desicion to have sex with a woman in the privacy of my own home, am I offended when she takes her shirt off? Sweet goddess, no. Do I get offended when a female friend of mine takes her breast out to feed her child in front of me? No. Because it`s entirely non-sexual for a woman to feed her child, and nobody is getting their rocks off at the fact that I can see her nip. If I was hanging out somewhere and some random stranger of a woman showed me her boob to make the dick of her "boyfriend/dom/husband/whatever" hard, would I be offended? You`d better believe it. A breast itself is not particularly obscene to me, but it can definitely become that way if it`s used in an intrusive, offensive manner. 7.) Nipple. Sorry, but in our society, the nipples of a female are considered a "no-no" in public.

BitaTruble -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 4:31:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix 7.) Nipple. Sorry, but in our society, the nipples of a female are considered a "no-no" in public. By society's standards BDSM is a no-no even in private .. so are you going to conform to society and quit practicing BDSM or do you just pick and choose which things are acceptable and which are not then expect others to adhere to your values? "It never ceases to amaze me how many people are content to thrive under the protection of their "freedom" while trying to suffocate and destroy that same right for those around them..." Celeste

ClubMix -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:01:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie My actual quote was "He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public (minus minors)." How having sex in public and actually exposing genetalia to minors was taken from that is beyond me, but it goes to show how people can draw inaccurate conclusions and form opinions based on that. It happens to the best of us, and it's why so many people have communication issues. Do you people read? I asked questions to Tigrita about how SHE feels about the "lines" when it comes to public genital exposure. That was the post Darcy responded to and began debating with. I even stated MULTIPLE TIMES throughout the thread the exact issue that I was debating, and made it clear that I was specifically talking about the conversation that I started about public sex acts including public exposure of "socially-unacceptable body parts".

ownedgirlie -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:04:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix Good questions! Thank you! You know, ClubMix, I actually do understand some of your concerns and I appreciate your replies here. I still do not understand how you came to the conclusion of genital exposure to minors, and perhaps you do not wish to answer that, but it's all good. As I have said before, I respect that different people are passionate about different things. This does not mean, however, that I will adhere to everyone's passions, but I really do understand them. If I may (of course I may!) comment on some of your replies: quote: 1.) Yes, I sometimes seek out and purposely view R rated movies in my own home, or in a theater full of age-appropriate patrons, who also sought out, and are purposely viewing said R rated movie. Fair enough. What is your opinion of the gazillion homes now that have cabel or satellite television with a gazillion different channels that anyone - adult or minor - can surf and stumble upon any sort of naked or profane content? Should we ban them? quote: 2.) Can`t say that I have. Damn - you're missing some good TV! [:)] quote: 3.) Can`t say that I did. Did the "T&A" session show explicit body parts, such as, oh, I dunno, a DD breast, complete with nipple? Did the show in question come with a warning? Did they specifically say "this could be offensive" before the show started? Was there a rating for the program in the TV guide? Were people given every indication of what was to come, and did those who still chose to view it, indeed choose to do so? Yes, Sex and the City showed full tit shots. Yes, NYPD Blue showed full ass shots. NYPD Blue had a disclaimer of "adult content and nudity" (an ABC station) , although Sex and the City did not (HBO). Disclosure or not, however, anyone could flip through channels and come across this stuff, and not by choice. quote: 4.) Yes, I go to public places where "socially-unacceptable body part", including nipples, are kept covered by bikini`s. Do you consider exposed ass cheeks as socially unacceptable? quote: 5.) No. I really don`t see why this question is even being asked? I hardly think a blacked-out, non-explicit silhouette of a woman if sexually offensive. Tacky, maybe by some standards, but other than that, unremarkably socially acceptable. I asked this because in my extreme right wing Christian days I loathed these things and found them highly offensive. I remember one truck had two of them back-to-back, giving the image of a full frontal girl with her legs spread. It certainly wasn't something I wanted to explain to my very young nephews at the time, as we drove on by. I agree with you about tacky. quote: 6.) Context, my dear. I`m bisexual. I fuck women. When I make the desicion to have sex with a woman in the privacy of my own home, am I offended when she takes her shirt off? Sweet goddess, no. Do I get offended when a female friend of mine takes her breast out to feed her child in front of me? No. Because it`s entirely non-sexual for a woman to feed her child, and nobody is getting their rocks off at the fact that I can see her nip. If I was hanging out somewhere and some random stranger of a woman showed me her boob to make the dick of her "boyfriend/dom/husband/whatever" hard, would I be offended? You`d better believe it. A breast itself is not particularly obscene to me, but it can definitely become that way if it`s used in an intrusive, offensive manner. I appreciate this answer "my dear" lol. It really sums up what the issue is. It's time and place, apparently. And this is where our opinions diverge. For you, time and place determines whether it is sexy or offensive. Same body part, same image. A nipple can either be sexy, native (think National Geographic), medical, natural (breast feeding) or offensive. And quite honestly, I can not wrap my mind around this kind of thinking. I understand it is an issue for others. But even if I tried to make it an issue for myself, I could not. It all boils down to time and place, opinions and attitudes. There is no "act" being done. There is no "fluid" being emitted. There is no trauma being inflicted on anyone. What it boils down to is a nipple in the bedroom is acceptable, a nipple on the cover of National Geographic is acceptable, a nipple in a biology book is acceptable, a nipple to feed an infant is acceptable (to some but not all), but a stand-alone, just hanging out there nipple for someone to see, is offensive. That is how I am seeing this, which is why it makes me uncomfortable to hang out, but it doesn't disturb me. There is no harm being done to anyone, other than to appear distasteful. I have suffered worse at ball games. Or in rush hour traffic! quote: 7.) Nipple. Sorry, but in our society, the nipples of a female are considered a "no-no" in public. Sometimes they are, sometimes they are not. See above. Speeding is also a no-no. Swearing is also a no-no. And the list can go on. Again, I appreciate your replies. I do not write with the intention of trying to change your mind about this; I know I won't, just as you will not change mine. But I am enjoying the discourse, and hope you are, too.

ClubMix -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:11:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble By society's standards BDSM is a no-no even in private .. so are you going to conform to society and quit practicing BDSM or do you just pick and choose which things are acceptable and which are not then expect others to adhere to your values? Celeste Does the fact that sexual BDSM enjoyed in private is vastly different than sexual BDSM enjoyed publicly matter to anybody but me? Am I the only one who see`s the huge difference between simply having a sexlife, and exposing unwilling people to your sexlife?

ownedgirlie -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:15:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie My actual quote was "He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public (minus minors)." How having sex in public and actually exposing genetalia to minors was taken from that is beyond me, but it goes to show how people can draw inaccurate conclusions and form opinions based on that. It happens to the best of us, and it's why so many people have communication issues. Do you people read? I asked questions to Tigrita about how SHE feels about the "lines" when it comes to public genital exposure. That was the post Darcy responded to and began debating with. I even stated MULTIPLE TIMES throughout the thread the exact issue that I was debating, and made it clear that I was specifically talking about the conversation that I started about public sex acts including public exposure of "socially-unacceptable body parts". Yes, I do read. First I read this quote from you: quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix Actually, the first time any talk of genital exposure was made, it was by the girl who has exposed herself to "an unsuspecting public". And then I read this quote from you: quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix Yeah, that IS people for you, yourself included. If you`ll take a moment to look back, I was NOT talking about the OP, I was talking about "ownedgirlie", who specifically stated that she has engaged in public exposure. You can see where I may have gotten the idea your post was about me, yes?

BitaTruble -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:32:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble By society's standards BDSM is a no-no even in private .. so are you going to conform to society and quit practicing BDSM or do you just pick and choose which things are acceptable and which are not then expect others to adhere to your values? Celeste Does the fact that sexual BDSM enjoyed in private is vastly different than sexual BDSM enjoyed publicly matter to anybody but me? Am I the only one who see`s the huge difference between simply having a sexlife, and exposing unwilling people to your sexlife? I take it by your response, that you're not willing to answer my question. Fair enough. If you change your mind, I'm usually around. Celeste

ClubMix -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:36:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble By society's standards BDSM is a no-no even in private .. so are you going to conform to society and quit practicing BDSM or do you just pick and choose which things are acceptable and which are not then expect others to adhere to your values? Celeste Does the fact that sexual BDSM enjoyed in private is vastly different than sexual BDSM enjoyed publicly matter to anybody but me? Am I the only one who see`s the huge difference between simply having a sexlife, and exposing unwilling people to your sexlife? I take it by your response, that you're not willing to answer my question. Fair enough. If you change your mind, I'm usually around. Celeste And I take it by yours, you`re not willing to answer mine.

MasterofScyn -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:37:01 PM)
It doesn't matter to me... But then again, I'm not so easily offended... If someone wants to go outside stark naked, then well I say let em. If you want to talk about how things are a no no in this society, then well.. Have fun cuz this world is screwed up and is getting worse because of how easily people get offended. We don't have any freedom anymore, so it's funny to hear talk about how we abuse the freedom they claim we have.... Hell, people get arrested for jaywalking, riding a bike on the sidewalk, get pulled over just for not wearing a seatbelt. And everyday it's getting worse... BDSM is in public, it's all around you like everything else. Wear your collar out in public and it's a no brainer as to what your into.. People assume the worse.. Just like they assumed the worse in this thread. The topic has gone way off base as to what the OP was wanting, no where did the op was asking about blow jobs in public, yet people assumed that's what she meant. I tried to make a thread to make up for this one, to clarify what was truly being asked for. Assuming things makes an Ass out of you and me.... That's just what happened here in this thread. Yes it has made an ass outta me consdiering I had a few posts pulled outta here for something pretty lame in my opinion. No that I don't blame those posts for getting pulled, but the assumption and argument was petty. There is no winning this type of argument. So what's the point of dragging it on, all your going to do is go in circles at this point. Scyn ~

ownedgirlie -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:41:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterofScyn There is no winning this type of argument. So what's the point of dragging it on, all your going to do is go in circles at this point. Scyn ~ I don't see this as a win/lose discussion, unless it gets emotional (and my emotions aren't invested in it). I think some good points have been made on both sides. Maybe I'm weird (OK, no doubt I am weird) but I'm finding it enjoyable. Edited to add: There are several topics that come up on these boards that elicit passionate debate on both sides of the argument. Public exposure is one of them. It is my thought that any thread you start on the subject is likely going to end up going down this road, sooner or later.

MasterofScyn -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 5:55:11 PM)
I'm finding it comical ... Honestly I do it see it from both points.. But at this point in time.. All I keep seein is assumptions and people pointing out the worse in someone elses posts.. Which is alot of why some of my posts got pulled.... It just feels like someone is trying to win this debate... It's almost like debating which is better, cats or dogs... or in my case reptiles vs the furry creatures.. I feel bad for the OP to be honest.... That's the only emotion I have thrown into this.. Scyn ~

BitaTruble -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 6:33:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: ClubMix quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble By society's standards BDSM is a no-no even in private .. so are you going to conform to society and quit practicing BDSM or do you just pick and choose which things are acceptable and which are not then expect others to adhere to your values? Celeste Does the fact that sexual BDSM enjoyed in private is vastly different than sexual BDSM enjoyed publicly matter to anybody but me? Am I the only one who see`s the huge difference between simply having a sexlife, and exposing unwilling people to your sexlife? I take it by your response, that you're not willing to answer my question. Fair enough. If you change your mind, I'm usually around. Celeste And I take it by yours, you`re not willing to answer mine. You asked very broad based questions which I can't answer because I don't know what matters to anyone else. How can 'anyone' answer such questions unless they assume to speak for the masses? In fact, I can't even answer them for me, specifically, because my BDSM is not sex based, it's power based. I, on the other hand, asked 'you', specifically, a narrowly pointed question that you chose not to answer and have still chosen not to answer. Yours is the argument of a straw man using deflection and avoidance. When you have the desire to engage in actual debate, I'll still be around. Celeste

ClubMix -> RE: Semi-public task part 2! (12/18/2007 6:38:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: MasterofScyn There is no winning this type of argument. So what's the point of dragging it on, all your going to do is go in circles at this point. Scyn ~ I don't see this as a win/lose discussion, unless it gets emotional (and my emotions aren't invested in it). I think some good points have been made on both sides. Maybe I'm weird (OK, no doubt I am weird) but I'm finding it enjoyable. Edited to add: There are several topics that come up on these boards that elicit passionate debate on both sides of the argument. Public exposure is one of them. It is my thought that any thread you start on the subject is likely going to end up going down this road, sooner or later. Agreed. A debate on a BDSM personals website isn`t going to change any laws or social viewpoints, so there really is no win/lose.

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