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SugarMyChurro -> Voting against your own best interests? (12/11/2007 6:45:55 PM)

The American Dream Is Alive and Well ... in Finland!
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/70103/

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This is a thoughtful and compelling piece that connects many of the dots as to why so many Americans vote against their own best interests.

I expect that the people that most need to be persuaded of the truth of this editorial will be the least likely to believe it.

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awmslave -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/11/2007 8:32:16 PM)

Many Americans are ignorant and they do not know what their interest is. Knowing what is the interest of an individual is not a trivial matter. In addition, the election system is broken and hijacked by two corrupt parties so there are not many choices available. To make things even more difficult people are constantly lied to by ruling elites.



Muttling -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/11/2007 9:10:39 PM)

I'm getting a dead link error.  



SugarMyChurro -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/11/2007 9:31:31 PM)

Works fine for me. This would seem to be the same piece here instead:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121107I.shtml



Muttling -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/11/2007 9:43:48 PM)

A very interesting article.  It makes many points that are very well founded, but I think it totally ignores one very important one.......


In past generations, the robustness of our economy and ability of our technology has far passed that of other countries.   It is only now that we are coming into a world were other countries are truely competative with us from an overall economic stand point.

Thus, I don't think the author is making an appropriate comparison.   Our parents weren't competing with their economic peers, they were competing with their economic underlings.   We are competing with peers who are roughly our equals and our economic system needs to be improved to reflect that.

Health care and education are TOPS on the list in desperate need of improvement.   Biting HARD at their heels is the social security system and the financial doom that is coming with it.

Last and MOST frightening, you have climate change issues.  America will be LEAST effected by the changes that are underway, but we depend upon the consumers of our products and their climate struggles will do grave harm to our economy.

All of this is reality folks and the right wing's denile of it won't make it go away.



Sanity -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/12/2007 7:30:38 AM)

You Left-wing types are so condesending

Anyone who doesn't agree with the way you think, anyone who doesn't vote the way you want them to needs to be re-educated, or otherwise shocked out of their "denile" as you say

That goes for the OP too when SMC says "...the people that most need to be persuaded of the truth of this editorial will be the least likely to believe it."

SO condescending. What's your next step, rounding rightwingers up at gunpoint if they can't be "persuaded"

Or what





mnottertail -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/12/2007 7:32:18 AM)

might as well get them while we are doing the Iraqis, yeah.....one fell swoop.

Ron



Stephann -> RE: Voting against your own best interests? (12/12/2007 12:10:34 PM)

Sheep go where they're told, eat what their told, sleep where they're told, and mate who they're allowed.

Americans are told to go through a miserable public education system, and that if they do well in that cess pool they might become the next Bill Gates.  They're fed Nintendo dreams, Big Mac life skills, and Paris Hilton culture, and we scratch our heads at why we think we'll someday run faster than the treadmill?

Face it; there are men make tens of millions of dollars annually who's sole function in this planet is to determine just how little they can pay their overseas workers, and still churn out their product.  There are complex computer models that calculate saleries to the .000000000001% just to be able to squeeze out another million bucks here or there for their shareholders.

Yet I don't see any Americans fighting and clawing to get through the border at El Paso.

Baaaaaaaa

Stephan



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