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ProDomme -> Oh so tired! (1/14/2004 6:35:03 PM)

Why is it I recieve emails from people that, just because they disagree with my lifestyle feel they can be insulting.

Today I recieved an email from a sub on the forum, with a few nasty vulgarities, because she does not agree with me.

As I told her, and to the rest of you that have issue with financial domination, there are a great many that crave it, I have a real job, and not all my slaves are financially servile. Educate yourselves and quit complaining about others. If you do not care for my lifestlye or who or what I am, grow up, move on , get over it. Find what makes you happy and quit being angry at the world!

You look uneducated when you criticize others because they are different than you. And one might have to question why it is you spend your time being obnoxious and hateful. Do you harbour such insecurities with yourself that you feel the need to harass and or badger others.. people you do not even know. Are you so pathetic in your own life that, instead of using this message venue to find a mate that is in like thinking, you have to send pointless ugly emails.

I personally would not have some of the subs/slaves that are on this forum. They are insecure and judgemental, lacking respect for themselves and others.

While yes, there are in fact scammers out there, we all know that, in more than just the financial end of this. It does not give anyone the right to prejudge based upon thier personal opinions of what they deem right or wrong. There are a great many "kinks" if you will that I have no desire to participate in, but I do not judge others that find them to be of thier likeing. It's all about personal choice, and I would expect those that are within the BDSM, Dom/me, sub/slave lifestyle to acknowledge that and respect it. Just as there are different choices in religion, politics, and so on, there are also those in the lifestyle.

Respectfully,
Lady Chain




strictandcruel -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/14/2004 6:57:10 PM)

LOL

It's that old "My kink is good, your kink is bad" mentality. Don't let it bother you. As long as you aren't putting a gun to someones head and making them pay I don't see a thing wrong with it.

strictandcruel




LrdSatyr8 -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/14/2004 8:51:08 PM)

I know what you mean... I see nothing wrong with making money from doing something you're good at and like to do. It's a real pity that there is no call for a Male Dom or I'd be charging money for my services as well.

-=> Satyr! <=-




SubmissiveOphelia -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/15/2004 12:36:52 AM)

I know EXACTLY what you mean...

I have had the same thing happen to me...
People who feel that they have the absolute word, the final say...who are they to judge me?

Just because i am a professional, only means that i do well at what i do in the very least to be compensated for such! And besides, i do not let their comments bother.....i am too good, and have too high self worth for it to begin to matter....

It implies their envy imho.
They wish for someone like me, and when they realize what is involved (compensation) and the fact that i will not pack my bags and go with them and so on....they throw out insults to me and so on!

(read my journal for more about this)

i wish not bore anyone too too much...

Sum it up: this is who i am , what i am about, what i like, ect. Like it, dont like it...if its for you? then great, join me....if not- move on. But please, do not waste your or my time insulting, or attempting to define right,wrong, or my reality and such!

--submissiveophelia




atruesoulslave -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/15/2004 4:20:26 AM)

I agree,
if people need to do this then let them!!! How hard is that??? keep your nose out of other people's BD/sm unless they invite you into it, otherwise keep your comments to yourself.




ShadowHwk -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/15/2004 5:44:48 AM)

ProDomme,

While I personally disagree, in general, with financial domination - that is a personal opinion and no slight on you. I have read your profile, and I find yours considerably different than those that I have ranted about in my journal entries. For example, and this is a key point, you want to establish a dialog BEFORE someone sends you any money. You are not advertising your PAYPAL account where just anyone can send you money in the hopes they MAY get something in return, in the desperate hope you may find them acceptable.

My own feelings on this are very clear. I would advise newbies to NOT send money via PAYPAL or fulfill Amazon wish lists to any Domme without first establishing a dialog, without first knowing at least something about what they are getting in return.

I have never had a problem with anyone getting paid for something they love doing - that is enormously rewarding and fulfilling.

Just my .02 - if it is even worth that.

Sincerely,
ShadowHwk




ProDomme -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/15/2004 6:26:45 AM)

ShadowHwk-

I have seen a great many of the profiles you speak of. Do I agree with them.. no, not all of them. However, it is not my place to send them a disgusting email calling them a cunt among other things.

As you noted, there is no paypal link in my profile, I do not accept monetary gifts from just anyone. There is a screening process, part of that screening process may in fact involve a gift, a small token of sincerity. Or it may not. I have to sort out the losers and the fakers just like anyone else does. I also screen because there may be things another desires that I am not willing to do. Or things in their life they need I cannot provide. I will not pretend to be something I am not for financial gain.

I have also read your profile, your call to arms so to speak does bother me in many ways. There are more uneducated and simple minded people than not. When they read a profile that says to email and tell em what you think, they often do. Suddenly they are no longer trying to find thier own happiness, they are now concentrated on finding the profiles they do not personally agree with and begin a campaign of nasty email.

The point is this- if you do not agree with someones wants and or needs, thier lifestyle or thier particular orientation, move on. In all reality what purpose does it serve. Instead of finding what it is you seek, you are just getting yourself worked up. Wasting everyones time is not the answer. Men and women that desire to be financially servile are usually well eductated, they have a sound working mind, otherwise they would not make a great income and be able to afford their particular fetish. They can usually see the bullshit for what it is.




ShadowHwk -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/15/2004 6:30:40 AM)

ProDomme,

Your point is well taken. And from a view point I had not considered. Your right the call to arms, so to speak, is a bit over the top and will be adjusted shortly. When I make a mistake, I own up. And that was a mistake.

Sincerely,
ShadowHwk




ProDomme -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/15/2004 6:42:30 AM)

ShadowHwk-

You are an Honorable man, and I respect you for that.

A great many people are so blinded by thier own opinions they cannot see the other side. I am thankful you were of intelligence to hear another side, even if we do not agree on some points. The fact that you took the time to read and try to understand speaks of your integrity.


Good day!




trnmastr -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/16/2004 8:36:03 AM)

This is suppose to be a life of no judgements, it was once.
Today everyone who reads a book and a website is an expert and they KNOW what is right and wrong.
They use vanilla thinking which doesnt work and if they run across someone who they dont agree with they have to attack.
See most today have this vision of this lifestyle being something high and mighty. A lifestyle with a secret handshake. They have to make it like this so they feel special and a part of something.
Self Importance.
Dont let them bother you its not worth it.

William




MizSuz -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/16/2004 7:51:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: trnmastr

<snip>

They have to make it like this so they feel special and a part of something.
Self Importance.
Dont let them bother you its not worth it.




WHAT???? You mean my kink isn't better than your kink because (place your argument here)?!?!?

I have previously suggested that many people would be BEST served by a therapist BEFORE coming to the scene.

You put it much more directly, though. :)




masokissed -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/18/2004 11:15:21 AM)

*tapping the mic* Testing ..Testing... OK REALITY, people... get a grip. Do we yell at or call names to the artist or the ball player getting paid for their craft?

It is all about, self responsibility... Lets see if we can all take care of our own backyards.


Lanette[8D]




DocHolliday -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/19/2004 8:50:03 PM)

A disrespectful inability to accept and/or tolerate someone else's kink or lifestyle is, to My experience the best way to spot a wannabe, or a newbie who hasn't a clue yet. Just My opinion though, I could be wrong.




litaTshai -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/20/2004 8:58:52 AM)

disagreement with a position is one thing. nasty vulgarities is another. especially from a sub or slave who is supposed to be respectful of her betters.

whenever one sees such, she cannot help but recall her Grandmother's little Aphorism: "Profanity is a small mind trying to express itself...and failing!"

one wishes All well,

respectfully,

lita {Tshai}




MistressDREAD -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/23/2004 7:11:14 PM)

looks around at the fine group of kinksters Im with in and just ~beem~!
Seeing a seat between trnmastr and Shadow Hwk I take it quickly be
for sumone else does and sees lita on the slave rugs close and gives
the gurl a pet on the head whilst looking at My Sisters on the Domme
couch across from Us.....~AAAHHhhh otay Im Home.




ehlovindom -> RE: Oh so tired! (1/24/2004 10:52:26 PM)

Perhaps the delete button could be of some use??

Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding about ourselves.




MrKing -> RE: Oh so tired! (2/6/2004 10:12:08 AM)

I was close friends with a successful prodomme for several years and I can't think of anyone I've known who worked harder.

One thing a Pro has to be is more flexible, more knowledgable, and more willing to accommodate the kinks of others that don't ring their own bells.

The other thing I noticed, and that she agreed with, as she used me as a wailing wall to vent about her day often enough, was that there was almost no overlap between the public scene and her clientele. Those who came to her, at least, were usually closeted, but more importantly, often had something they felt driven to be punished for. The other major sort was the powerhouse male on the edge of burnout. Give him a good spanking and put him in a diaper for an hour and he was good for another month in the boardroom.

Very practical, straightforward, non-sexual (for her, anyway) jackleg psychology.

But sometimes she screwed up. One client actually drove her past her own limits; demanding a degree of physical punishment for some un-named sins that left her a quivering wreck.

The other required trait is hellacious empathy, and when you have to empathise with truly sick souls, sometimes the slime sticks.

I was babysitting for her that day - I took one look at her, put a blanket around her, went to her stash and rolled a fatty out of pure BC bud. It's the only time I've ever prescribed pot, much less enough that I knew I was gonna get an unpleasant contact high. Then I handed her beers, sandwitches and listened to her for about four hours of straight freakout venting, took her to bed, undressed her, and spent an hour massaging her back and neck until she stopped twitching and fell asleep.

I think she fucking earned that two grand. Oh, she cut him off after that.

Another one, a few years before, turned out to be violent - his kink was struggling while being tied. Had to help with that one too, with extra hands and a well-placed knee.

Anyway, Dommes tend to be hardass about such people for a reason - and the reason is living thru scenes like that in real life and having to mop the excreta off the floor.

I respect Dommes but even were I able to pass for female (and some submales seem easily enough confused in that regard) I'd never, repeat, never ever put myself through that. There are easier ways to make a living....




ScottGriggs -> RE: Oh so tired! (2/6/2004 11:41:07 AM)

Financial Domination does scare me, but that is just me, and so I probally wont take part in it.

I hope it is fun, if the Dominator (or ess) enjoys spending anothers money and the submissive loves providing it, I can't think of anything more beautiful. Perfect Match!

I hope the too outspoken don't bother you too much :( or at least not enough to make you stop doing what you enjoy.

Some times as, MrKing says, you need comforting and time to vent from troubling people.




saphire -> RE: Oh so tired! (2/6/2004 3:36:14 PM)

At the beginning of this thread, i was confused as to the terms "financial domination" ... i THINK i have a hang of it, but wish to ask for clarification.

Is this, as described in one post, a financial gift for the Domina / Dominant by the sub/slave? (And if so, how is this "domination"?)

Or is this part of the relationship between the two (be it in a pro sense, or otherwise), to be taken as a "given" within the expectations of the service of the sub/slave to the Domina/ant?

Just curious, as i agree, to be insulting simply because one disagrees with A/another's kink is hypocritical in the extreme in BDSM (imo) ...

Lord Shiva's saphire




inyouagain -> RE: Oh so tired! (2/6/2004 7:16:00 PM)

What/who is not involved in financial domination?

In order to get anything anyone needs/craves, one must pay finances.

Does a restaurant prepare a meal to your order simply because you enjoy eating?

Does anyone fill your vehicle with gas simply because you love to haul ass?

Unless the name on your VISA card is Bill Gates, you're financially dominated 24/7.

Unfortunately, phakes/scumsuckers/bottomfeeders tend to mold an often negative stereotype for any activity anyone pays for. Perhaps the sub has been in the service of such wannabe's and your SSC activities gave them a flashback?

By being Dom/me you don't escape financial domination, your sub usually does under your care, unless agreed otherwise according to both your terms... keyword being 'your'... ie. your biz, and your sub's, nobody else's... regardless of twin-breathing hole size.

Speaking of noses, isn't that what this thread was started for? :)

ie. sum BDSM Jimmy Falwell sub knockin' on your BDSM mailbox?

Generally, opines stink unless consistent with your own skew of view, esp unsolicited!

Is the sub greedy, or have they delivered other fine sermons?

NOYB.... none of your biz
NOYFB... with emphasis!

...sparks fly from their keyboreds as they flame in rebuttal!




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