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Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 8:18:36 PM   
Typcynic


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I was wondering how many babygirls prefer a much older Daddy Dom compared to someone closer in age?  Is the daddy/babygirl dynamic more of a physical (i.e., large age difference) or mental (small age difference) state?  Let's see if I can explain.  I've noticed that many women who seek a Daddy do not want someone who is old enough to be their father.  That would imply a mental state.  Assuming the girl is 30 yrs old and she wants to be treated like a 10 yr old, then a 30 yr old guy would be viewed as a Daddy figure even though they were both the same age. In a physical state, the 30 yr old girl would seek out a 50 yr old guy since that would be the age of her true Daddy.  Or maybe that type of relationship just gets too creepy for most babygirls which is why some get angry when an older guy bothers to write. 
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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 8:28:58 PM   
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Daddy is nine years older than me.  I didn't seek him out based on age, but on his amazing and beautiful personality.  The age difference has been good for us however.  He uses the experiences from prior relationships to make ours stronger.  Nine years is just about perfect to me.  But that wasn't your question was it?  I think some lg's may have an age limit, but most people are looking for that perfect 'someone' and age is just one of the many factors.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 8:47:04 PM   
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My Daddy is 15 years older than me, but He wasn't what I was looking for...in fact, I wasn't looking at all. A Daddy/little girl dynamic was not high on my list of priorities, but it suits us and has blossomed into a wonderfully unique relationship.
 
In my experience, this particular dynamic doesn't have a whole lot to do with age, but it lends itself to appear that way. I think people see what they expect to see...

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 8:57:43 PM   
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I'm not in a daddy/baby girl relationship. But my Master is 12 yrs older than me. My ex was 8 yrs older. I have always found myself with older men. The older ones just seem to be far more mature than someone my own age ever was. I don't base things off age, obviously. But i'm also not looking for a father figure either, I just like the older ones.
 
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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 9:13:16 PM   
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In terms of age, first of all, I get offended when a guy is just looking for a young piece of ass, not that I'm that young, but the number of men who get really obnoxious--some guys write every week until you block them, or basically treat me like a high-priced call girl.  I've had men offer to pay my rent, take me shopping, fancy restaurants--all that does is say "I can buy you--let me know your price."  Bragging that you make a lot of money at work, or are successful.  I don't care.  The only way to buy me is with sharing a piece of your soul (just call me Beelzebub...)

My profile says "30-42ish" and that is generally the range I stick to.  Very rarely will I respond to an older man other than "I'm looking for someone my age" and that is only when they write a hell of a letter. 

I would suggest you read the profiles and respond to women who are looking in your age range.  Unless a profile really, truly touches you.  Then, take time to write a really individual e-mail that let's her know you glimpsed a piece of her soul and that is what you are attracted to.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 9:37:38 PM   
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SingleRarity and spanklette, thanks for writing. My question goes beyond a simple preference for older men as voiced by MasterofScyn and liminalRapture missed my question entirely since I wasn't asking for advice as to who I should write to and I seldom write to ladies who state "No Men" or some limited age range.  But I do find the 9 to 15 yr age difference interesting in that SingleRarity is almost within the same generation while spanklette is just about outside (assuming one wouldn't start having kids until they were 18 yrs old).  I'm curious to know if environment plays a part in that some people only seek out the familiar while others are drawn to the remote and unknown.  A 9 year gap would have some common shared experiences (popular music, major news events) while a 15 year gap would have less so.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 9:50:25 PM   
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I am 42 and have a preference for men 50+. I like the maturity and just seem to get along well with men older than myself. Part of it, I am sure, has to do with my childhood and lack of parenting. I crave rules, order, structure and even discipline.
 
As for the common interests, I have often been told I am an "old soul", especially in my tastes in music.
 
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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 10:11:25 PM   
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Daddy is roughly 9 years older than i am.  my late dominant was 3 years younger than i am.  both were/are Daddy to me.

its not so much the age he is, as the feelings he invokes and the mindspace he can put me in.  the word "Daddy" isnt about about parenting....but his position to me.  he cares, nurtures, supports, teaches, disciplines, and most importantly, loves.

that's my Daddy.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 10:42:27 PM   
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He uses the words Daddy at times and calls me babygirl too, although we have chosen to "label" ourselves as Owner/pet, this Daddy/babygirl comes up often enough, and we are evolving frequently enough, that it may become a larger (or perhaps smaller) part of our dynamic, so I don't exactly fit into the target audience of your question other than I am female and my Dominant is male really... but heck I am bored and my answer is different to everyone elses. 

He is 12 years younger than I am.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 10:59:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Typcynic

I was wondering how many babygirls prefer a much older Daddy Dom compared to someone closer in age?  Is the daddy/babygirl dynamic more of a physical (i.e., large age difference) or mental (small age difference) state?  Let's see if I can explain.  I've noticed that many women who seek a Daddy do not want someone who is old enough to be their father.  That would imply a mental state.  Assuming the girl is 30 yrs old and she wants to be treated like a 10 yr old, then a 30 yr old guy would be viewed as a Daddy figure even though they were both the same age. In a physical state, the 30 yr old girl would seek out a 50 yr old guy since that would be the age of her true Daddy.  Or maybe that type of relationship just gets too creepy for most babygirls which is why some get angry when an older guy bothers to write. 


I have always liked older men.  For me it's "the chicken or the egg" scenario.  Do I like older men because I like Daddy/babygirl relationships, or Do I like Daddy/baby girl relationships because I like older men?

I have been with men old enough to be my father if they knocked their girlfriend up senior year 

A reason that I don't think I "mentally" care if someone was old enough to be my father is that (1) I've never called either of my step-father's "Daddy", so that name never gets associated with them and (2) I was only spanked by my mom, and never OTK

So when my Daddy (who is 17 years older than me) is spanking me otk and I'm calling him "Daddy", I have no family members to associate that scenario with.

Pysically... I think older men are sexy (my preference being early to late 30s)



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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/12/2007 11:06:33 PM   
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My previous Master is 28 and I am 32. Not much of an age gap but he was the first one I ever called Daddy and that is what I continue to call him to this day. He is no longer my Master but my Daddy and will always be so even though now we remain very close friends. The dynamic had nothing to do with our ages but our personalities. I, by nature, act, dress, talk, etc. much younger than I really am. My best friend is 23. I still get carded when buying alcohol. I am wild, sarcastic, bratty and free-spirited while he is conservative, organized, level-headed and much more mature than I. For me, it has much more to do with personas than actual physical age. While I love the nurturing father figure Daddy is to me, it has zilch to do with whether or not he could possibly have fathered me. I don't seek out Daddy types based on the physical possiblity they could have been my father. That, to me, is just squicky  Not knocking others who do so for that reason, it just doesn't do a thing for me.

My current Owner is 43 and while I do not call him Daddy (yet) he calls me babygirl and treats me as such. He has a very youthful, fun, whacky sense of humor and persona. Go figure. But he tells me what to do and when in a nurturing and caring way. Again, all about the safe Daddy-type care and feeling, not the actual ages.

I don't think a small age difference implies whether a person goes for a Daddy type for mental reasons because people hook up with all ages for very different reasons. If a girl was looking for a much older Daddy who could possibly have been her father, then she will likely be very specific about that and why.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 6:10:28 AM   
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My Daddy is a little under thirteen years older than I am. I was not actively looking for an "older" man but looking back, I can see that the odds of a man my age having all the qualities I was looking for were pretty slim. He doesnt call me "babygirl" but the Daddy/little girl thing is definitely a strong component of our dynamic. I dont believe that the D/lg flavor attached itself to our dynamic because of our age difference, but I cant rule out that I was attracted to him initially, in part, because of the age difference and my identification of my desire to have a "Daddy" in my life. There's just so much to be attracted to, though, it really is difficult to say :-).

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 6:22:15 AM   
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let me put this way, i would rather have an older man (like Daddy's age and beyond) as daddydom rather than a younger man as a teen daddy.  this is where age and experience (life and otherwise) plays an importance to me personally within this type of dynamic.  

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 6:58:38 AM   
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We talked about this last night...it's not a new subject, but it is an enjoyable one. I think, for me...the age gap is large enough that we do have generational differences. I can hook up the surround sound without breaking a sweat and He can do all kinds of manly things...He can prolly rope a cow or somethin'...I should ask. I can't think of a single thing that I've broken around here that He hasn't been able to fix. In my experience, He's more self sufficient than most men my age.
 
There are a few other bonuses...the Wii and Playstation are reserved for me. He's not a big gamer. He gets to satisfy His sports game hankering, and I get the good stuff.
 
I've got someone who can answer my historical questions and give me some cultural relevance. This might not seem very important, but I have no sense of time...His perspective helps me to put a reference on things. I'm sure this could be done in another fashion, but it's been an efficient way of righting my sense of time. Aside from that, He's a history buff and won't accept anything less than someone who can argue historical points intelligently...I think He's training me as a sparring dummy.
 
In the end, it has pros and cons like any other relationship...sure I get the games all to myself, but He doesn't understand my fascination and it really isn't something that we can share. Yes, He's able to help with my sense of time, but I'm sure that my philosophical rather than historical standpoints are frustrating. We're not 26 and 41. We're people that enjoy each other immensely regardless of age.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 7:39:33 AM   
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First off, I am not a baby! I am five! *holding up fingers*

I suppose for me it's about the physical and the mental. It is a fact that my Daddy is 23-years older than me. We weren't however looking specifically for a Daddy/lg relationship when we met. At first we thought our relationship was just about being D/s and hoping that one day we would become M/s. Then we stumbled upon an excellent explanation of the Daddy/lg dynamics and realized that was what we were already doing. So, basically I'm his little girl slave with slut tendencies, a love for pain, and a deep need for all things pink and blingy.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 7:39:44 AM   
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My Daddy is 18 years older than me. Technically he actually could be my father. Course I really didnt know he was that old when I asked him out that first date all those years ago. And the truth is if I had known his age, I probably never would have asked him out. I thought he was about 10 years younger than he actually is. I wasnt looking for any sort of a relationship then. I had turned down several dates earlier that same week...I swore up and down I was going to stay single cause men were too expensive to keep around and I didnt need them anyway. And then damn if this guy showed up adn I heard myself asking him to Dinner and I have no idea what made me do it or what I was thiunking but there I was adn here we are. We were together 5 years before I ever called him Daddy. Its not what I was looking for, but it works for us. its not really about age play, I dont want to be treated like a child. Im 27 and I kind of want to stay that way. but I do love the way he takes care of me.

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 8:53:10 AM   
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Hello Littlepita, please let me know the title of the "dady/lg dynamic explanation" and where I could possibly find a copy. Thanks-

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 10:22:33 AM   
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Hello Littlepita, please let me know the title of the "dady/lg dynamic explanation" and where I could possibly find a copy. Thanks-


I've posted this before but can't find where. I also don't know who orginally wrote the piece but here it is for you.

Daddy Doms

This is about the misconceptions surrounding this aspect of D/s. I realize most think that it involves a father/daughter relationship. That isn't quite true; daddy/little girl is a much different level. I do not know if I can explain what I mean so I will simply talk about what it means to me. First, I should say that I am not trying to be a real father or a replacement for someone’s father. I am however the daddy. Its not necessarily about age play specifically (beyond the occasional school girl fantasy *s*) and the relationship is not based on any need to have sex with children. My sub will always be a very independent woman. I do have the ability (and she the propensity) to make her feel like a little girl, however, a much cherished and sometimes needy little girl. It is a feeling that she revels in, it is the safest place she has ever been, and it allows her the freedom to be all that she is without fear of reprisals.

So, what makes a daddy Dom? First and foremost he loves his little girl. She is his prized possession. His eyes light up when she walks into the room and he takes great pride in her successes. After all, he helped to create her. She holds the tenderest part of his heart and has the greatest power to hurt him. Seeing her hurt however is not something a daddy Dom wants. He sees it as his job to protect her, both from the outside world and herself. He may love to cause her great pain in a scene, but he hates to be the one to hurt her emotionally. It hurts him to have to punish her, but he knows it is sometimes necessary. This takes great strength on his part. It takes strength to control her, and to shape her to his needs and desires. It takes strength to be her confidant, her shoulder, her anchor. It takes strength to let her out into the world when all he wants to do is hold her safe in his arms and it takes strength to do what is necessary when she needs to be disciplined.

A daddy Dom knows the value of discipline, though at times his soft heart gets the best of him. He knows that in order for his little girl to be the best she can possibly be he must stand firm. He uses his experience in life and his knowledge of her to provide proper direction and punishment when the need arises. He knows this hurts her, and that tears at his heart, but he also knows it is for her own good. A daddy Dom provides something else that is very important to his submissive..acceptance. She is safe in his arms because he knows her, everything about her, and he still loves her. When she goes to him she knows that this man knows all of her dirty little secrets and it doesn't matter. To him she is beautiful. Many of you may be asking what separates a daddy Dom from any other Dom. In many cases very little. Hopefully they all provide love, strength, protection, discipline, and acceptance. I have heard daddy Doms described as a kinder, gentler, Dom. I like that definition though I know it won't apply to all. I guess when it really comes down to it I can't explain it. Perhaps it is something only a little girl can understand.

Daddy/little girl does not refer to the ages, real or pretend, of the participants. Nor does it imply closet desires. It refers to the environment that two people have created. A daddy Dom is so named because of the qualities he possesses and the service he provides. So, what are these qualities? What is a daddy Dom? A daddy Dom wants to be the center of your universe. He wants to be able to provide for your every need and care. But more than that he wants to be able to shape and mold you to the image he thinks you should become. He sees in you someone who, in his mind, can achieve a much higher, much greater status. He believes more in you than you believe in yourself. What he wants in return is to be able to bask in his image of you, the image he has created. How does he achieve his goals? Through love, respect, and discipline. His love for his little girl goes without saying. He accepts every part of her and works to emphasize the good while improving the bad. He loves her as much for who she is as for who she will become with his guidance. It is this love that allows him to train her. He could not invest so much of himself in someone he did not love completely.

This love would not be possible without respect. A daddy Dom needs to feel great pride in his possession. He needs to know she can hold her own in the outside world and still submit to him. He holds the greatest respect for the gift she has given him and takes great pains to increase it's value. It is extremely important to him to know she can be with any man and she chooses to be with him. He knows that this makes discipline a priority in their lives, more important than in some other D/s relationships. In order for the little girl to really trust she must know he means what he says. He must constantly deepen her respect for him. If he does not enforce discipline, this respect becomes a tenuous thing. If his submissive finds that she can manipulate him out of punishing her, she begins to lose respect and the ability to empower becomes impeded.

He needs to empower her as much as he wants to possess her and it becomes increasingly difficult to be possessed by someone you do not respect. The discipline is also important when it comes to her protection, both from those outside the relationship and those within. He is the one who makes the decisions about how she will relate to the world in general and his discipline ensures that she follows these rules. I think most Doms have a bit of the daddy in them, taking on the role of male authority figure in their submissives life and using their power to enrich that life. daddy/little girl verbalizes that feeling, and adds a dimension of warmth, caring, and ritual that it's participants crave.
 


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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 3:19:53 PM   
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liminalRapture missed my question entirely since I wasn't asking for advice as to who I should write to and I seldom write to ladies who state "No Men" or some limited age range. 


Sorry to "miss the question entirely" but you had written "Or maybe that type of relationship just gets too creepy for most babygirls which is why some get angry when an older guy bothers to write." 

If women are getting angry with you, and not just deleting your e-mail, you are probably doing something wrong--thus the advice.  Most women don't have time to actually get angry at men who just are in the wrong age range. 

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RE: Daddy Dom/babygirl dynamics - 12/13/2007 8:10:15 PM   
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Hi liminalRapture, I didn't say women were getting angry at me. I said these women get angry when an older guy writes. How do I know? Because they post their anger in their profiles and journals. They spew anger in their rant against older guys rather than just go with the flow.

ghitaPVH makes my case perfectly as to why women should chill out when it comes to age. Based on her story, she never would have met her daddy through an on-line ad.  Her mistake, in assuming her daddy was 10 years younger, is that they are both now on a wonderful journey. I should only be so lucky as to have a beautiful lady ask me out based on a mistaken difference in age.

Littlepita, thanks for posting the dynamic discussion. And thanks to everyone for writing. I didn't expect the overall level of understanding/positive response.

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