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Shawn1066 -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 11:49:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

To Me this is a grey zone.
I treat My subs always with respect,
and wouldn't want a doormat in the first place.
I don't like to see them, and will tell them too!

But how far will you go for your Dominant?
And when are you turning into a doormat?

There is a huge grey area, in which use and abuse lay close by.
In the name of Bdsm there is allot done, which in My eyes, isn't correct.
So how do Yyou see this?

Thanx already for Yyour opinion.

Warm Greetingz

GoddezzT`



You're a doormat the moment submission becomes something you feel you -have- to do rather than something you -want- to do.  In my opinion, anywhoo.




kyraofMists -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 11:53:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

sounds that you've a healthy relationship goin on
kyraofMists !!
good on you hon.

B safe

GoddezzT`



Thank you, T.  I think our relationship is very healthy.  I also know that there are people who think our relationship is unhealthy and possibly that I am being abused.

Knight's Kyra




Peridot -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 12:33:15 PM)

When you bottom for a heel  [;)]




adoracat -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 1:26:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

I really admire you
for being so honest adoracat.
And the fact you so well know how it is in your relationships,
and you're able to handle that.
I truly have respect for that.

It's a choise, after all.

I wish you enough!

GoddezzT`




thank you.  *smiles*  i could make other choices but for the most part i'm content.

and i do have the satisfaction of the occasional "you know, NO one else would put up with my shit!"  i just smile and say "i know, honey.  i know."

happiness is what you make of things.

kitten




DesFIP -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 2:02:07 PM)

Doormat status arrives when you do things that makes you lose respect for yourself, when you break your moral boundaries knowing that you'll hate yourself for doing so.




littlebitxxx -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 4:10:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists          snipped

Webster defines doormat as "one that submits without protest to abuse or indignities". Knight's Kyra


I was a Webster's doormat for 21 vanilla married years.  Now I am a submissive.  HUGE difference. 




salilus -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 7:57:49 PM)

I don't think I'm ever a door mat. I'm 110% his possession, all the time, but he doesn't own a door mat.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 9:15:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl
doormats are only good for wiping the snow, grime and salt off my Nikes


I love it when he uses me for that.  [;)]

I think doormat is the derogatory term some submissives give other submissives...similar to the derogatory label of "micromanager" given to dominants. 

I am whatever he says I am - happily so.  Although he did say I am more useful as a foot rest than a doormat.  No abuse here.  I left that relationship a long time ago.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/14/2007 10:43:17 PM)

The doormat syndrome really has nothing to do with submissiveness. Being a doormat is being in an incredibly co-dependent relationship. Here, you are not enforcing your boundaries or striving to have your needs met as you work to make your partner happy. A doormat has not self esteme of there own and thus relies on their partner to give it to them. When the partner is unhappy with them, which eventually happens, their world crumbles. At this point, they will do anything to gain the other person's approval again, thus leading to the co-dependent relationship. You can have this kind of relationship anywhere. It's not soley our problem.

Master Fire




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/15/2007 9:01:10 AM)

I'm happy to hear that littlebitxxx,
I wish you enough.

GoddezzT`





GoddessTeaze -> RE: Till when are you a submissive, and when do you turn into a doormat ? (12/15/2007 9:04:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl
doormats are only good for wiping the snow, grime and salt off my Nikes


quote:

I love it when he uses me for that.  [;)]
ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

As long as you're happy
and fine with all that happends,
then it's no problem!

Goodluck hon.

GoddezzT`





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