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alslav -> Canes becoming Dry! (12/15/2007 3:32:16 AM)

Hello - i have a couple of canes which my mistress uses occassionally. of late i find that the canes have become dry and in one session one of them broke! can i save the canes?




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/15/2007 4:26:53 AM)

You have to soak canes in water from time to time. 




tiredofgames10 -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/15/2007 6:56:59 AM)

Any wood product that is not sealed needs to be treated to ensure a long life. 

I use mineral oil on all my non-sealed wood products including cutting boards I use in the kitchen.  Mineral oil is safe to use on any wood even in you are going to use the piece to prepare food.

Other oils may contain by-products which should not come into contact with foods or any open cuts or area where blood is present.




CalifChick -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/15/2007 8:55:32 AM)

From site that sells canes:

Cane Care:  Our canes are made from rattan. Rattan is the preferable cane, because bamboo will dry, crackle and splinter - could cause unwanted cutting. Rattan is flexible and supple and does not splinter. We treat our canes with oils from the inside out. We recommend placing the raw end of the cane in raw linseed oil once a month for 24 hours to allow the cane to absorb oils. Then, with a dry, lint free cloth, wipe the cloth over the entire length of the cane and allow to air dry. DO NOT SOAK IN WATER. This will eventually dry the cane and it will become brittle. We have canes that we have been using for 4 years (without breaking) using this method.





porkchop -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/15/2007 1:07:26 PM)

This topic led to a strange stream of consciousness sorta research diversion (plus asking Sir his preference). He takes fantastic care of all his tools, especially his implements of d00m... and his preference for conditioning rattan canes (emphasis due to the fact that I'm not sure, based on the OP, what type of canes are in need of care) is to soak them in water as needed.  And cuz he's a wealth of handy tips: he uses a length of PVC pipe with caps on each end to tansport his canes.  When they're in need of a good soak, he places them in the tube and fills it with water.

I was surprised to learn this because I from my experience with wood (furniture and wood products in the kitchen) that water just isn't friendly.  I've always preferred mineral oil over any plant/vegetable-related oil for conditioning wood products coming in contact with food.  Yeah, it's a petroleum product... but it doesn't go rancid like the other more... green-friendly oil products. 

My quick research tangent only further proved that epicureans' and woodworkers' preferences in caring for their tools vary just as widely as those held by perverts. 




Taboo4Two -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 5:21:58 AM)

How you "moisturize" your cane depends at least in part to how it was, or was not, sealed.

Canes which are left raw should be treated with some sort of oil to keep them supple. Mineral oil is a good choice because it will not go rancid and does not leave that stick residue after it is wipped off. Water will work, but it evaporates so quickly that it is not really a good choice.

BTW... in Singapore, when caning is prescribed as punishment, the canes are soaked in water specifcally to prevent them from splitting. Since the cane only needs to last long enough to inflict the punishment water is a good choice.

Canes which are fully sealed with shellac, varnish, polyurethane etc., must have some of the finish removed before they will accept any water or oil. Lightly sand the tip of these canes so that the raw material shows through on the last 1/2". Some makers leave the last 1/2" or so of the tip unfinished just for that purpose. In this case all you need to do it to immerse the raw tip into the oil and it will wick into the center cane. Do this once every 4-6 months and you should be fine.

Domino




TMaster2 -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 8:28:35 AM)

I break canes a lot, it seems.  Maybe I just don't buy the good stuff to begin with, I don't know... I use dowels and bamboo, mostly.  But I also do woodworking, and mineral oil is a favorite for keeping almost any wood in tip top shape, so like others here have said, that might be your best bet.




mnottertail -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 8:31:03 AM)

In my estimation bamboo is for shit, gotta nice look to it, I give it a 6 for beat, but it splinters flakey....that could run a big stick of grass up somebodies ass......

the dowels if you can pick and choose (I especially like birch) are the bomb, and birch has very fuzzy splinter characteristics, hard to make slivers out of.

Ron




TMaster2 -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 9:16:58 AM)

yeah, I won't get any more bamboo, at least not the stuff I got last year.  And maybe my dowels are too thin for good marking use.  But they still make nice noise... or was that her making the noise?  lol  whatever, all good




LadyHugs -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 9:49:34 PM)

Dear TMaster2, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
May I have your consideration, that when using a dowel it may be too narrow to support the flex from the impact.  Sometimes a hard technique, a firm hand will not allow the wood to 'live' or 'flex.'  The flex has to go somewhere --so it shatters/breaks.
 
I do have wood dowels from the hardware store that have been in faithful service for five years now, made by a man who couldn't afford rattan canes to gift me.  I really do enjoy these wood dowels and how they were polished and finished.  These dowels do vibrate like a reed but not to the extent of bamboo (which is a hollow reed) and rattan which is a solid reed.
 
I do not like bamboo myself.  The joints are called 'knees' and I find that sea salt water is the only thing the bamboo seems to keep as far as moisture goes.  Unless home grown bamboo--exported stuff is usually so dried out its only use is for blinds and decorations.  There is no way for the external case of bamboo to soak in moisture.
 
I would consider contacting the gentleman at www.cane-iac.com where he supplies canes as well as produces them.  He may have further advice.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 




Lordandmaster -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 10:30:20 PM)

My cane runs dry every once in a while, but 24 hours later I find that it's completely reloaded and ready to go.




marieToo -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 10:31:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

My cane runs dry every once in a while, but 24 hours later I find that it's completely reloaded and ready to go.


Yeah, but what do you do about all those lipstick stains on it?




Lordandmaster -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 10:34:46 PM)

You ought to know by now that lipstick is verboten.




marieToo -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/17/2007 10:40:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You ought to know by now that lipstick is verboten.


Oh, no fair.  That wasn't in the rule book.




TMaster2 -> RE: Canes becoming Dry! (12/18/2007 6:19:10 AM)

Dear LadyHugs,

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear TMaster2, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
...when using a dowel it may be too narrow to support the flex from the impact... so it shatters/breaks.

yes, exactly what happens, to everyone's surprise, tears, and laughter.

quote:


I would consider contacting the gentleman at www.cane-iac.com



Very nice site, and great prices!  Thanks, I have bookmarked it to get my next one ;)




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