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Do You ever - 12/15/2007 10:37:30 AM   
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put Your sub/slave in Denial and not let them cum for long periods of time? How do they react to this? Is it a positive experience for them? Do they obey or does it sometimes  get too much for them to bear and they cum without Your permission. If they do cum without Your permission, How do You handle that? Thanks

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 12:47:06 PM   
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put Your sub/slave in Denial and not let them cum for long periods of time? How do they react to this? Is it a positive experience for them? Do they obey or does it sometimes  get too much for them to bear and they cum without Your permission. If they do cum without Your permission, How do You handle that? Thanks


Ah, one of my favorite activities! During play, I'll deny my sub the right to cum...knowing full well that unless she's Supergirl she'll never be able to stand what I'm doing to her without squirting all over the place. When she inevitably does cum, I order her to her hands and knees and administer a light spanking or other impact play to punish her.

Then it's back to tormenting her clit and pussy with the same order not to cum until I release her. Almost always, she'll fail again. Hands and knees, a bit harsher punishment. Wash, Rinse, Repeat until I want to move to some other type of play.

The idea, of course, is while I call it "orgasm control,"  the whole point is an orgasm/punishment cycle until I finally, mercifully permit her to cum.

That's the way I like to play. Others may do other things.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 1:26:14 PM   
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Thanks i enjoyed reading Your post.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 1:48:10 PM   
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I love denial play. In fact, it's something I enjoy in a non-sexual way too. I enjoy it so much it's probably a fetish. There's something about wanting and wanting and wanting, and begging and pleading and aching that does it for me.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 1:53:23 PM   
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I stopped sleeping when he tried it. Three days of no sleep was not fun.

Interestingly enough, traditionally male subs will become more focused on their partner when kept in denial but female libidos have the habit of shutting down. You can't order someone not to cum who isn't aroused, it just doesn't work. And it's a lot easier to turn a woman off than to start her back up again. Our libidos tend to be more finicky than mens.

But that's long term meaning months. Short term control for 12 hours is great fun as long as he knows I will be humping his leg the moment we have some privacy.

The thing that I hate is when he falls asleep playing with me. He gets to sleep and I don't. I have even been known to wake him up after three hours demanding he puts out the fire since I'm getting wired from being kept aroused and not allowed any sleep. And again, I don't handle sleep deprivation at all well.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 2:03:57 PM   
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Short term denial, ie during a session even if it lasts for hours will probably result in a "dribbler"...there but not satisfying.  And that's if I cum at all.
Longer term denial, ie a day or three during which time tormented, teased both physically and verbally...got a pretty horny little slut on his hands.
Long term denial, ie week or more...the little arousal switch gets turned off and it's very hard to get going again.  Torment, tease, physical, verbal, do whatcha want, nothing happens.
However, no denial at all will only increase orgasms both in frequency and intensity, the more I have the more there are waiting in line.
Just wired weird I guess.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 3:05:35 PM   
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Such great replies. Thanks so much everyone. Being new to this lifestyle, it really helps me to hear what others have experienced and are experiencing. It's nice to see we all have so much in common about so many things.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 4:20:20 PM   
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Short term denial, ie during a session even if it lasts for hours will probably result in a "dribbler"...there but not satisfying.  And that's if I cum at all.
Longer term denial, ie a day or three during which time tormented, teased both physically and verbally...got a pretty horny little slut on his hands.
Long term denial, ie week or more...the little arousal switch gets turned off and it's very hard to get going again.  Torment, tease, physical, verbal, do whatcha want, nothing happens.
However, no denial at all will only increase orgasms both in frequency and intensity, the more I have the more there are waiting in line.
Just wired weird I guess.


if you're wired weird, so am i....but then again i thought i was the only one....yay! we can be weird together....i hate it when people try that shit with me....i know it works for a lot of women but they are just turning me off....

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 4:42:47 PM   
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I was recently denied. I know ME. Can you believe it? Well it wasnt denial in the true sense just arousal over a prolonged period without culmination. He played with me a little before we left for the club, then a workshop on sensual spanking. He was playing with me during a spanking later. However, someone I like to call Mistress barbie was finger painting her Buff sub and then giving out pony rides on his back, testing out his new harness. It was really HARD to focus. Doms cant focus when they are laughing their heads off. So we started my arousal at 4 pm and didnt finish until 2 A.M. I think I squirted. it was the first time I left a wet spot in 3 years.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 5:47:21 PM   
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Well We/we are not alone (um's at home). For this sub denial or just lack of it, just makes her alittle on the irritable side and basical a babbling idot.  not pleasant to be around at all!
Master needs to have the right frame of mind for sex or bsdm play period. So this sub needs to learn patience.  The denial is not ment intendional, thank goodness!

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 5:56:08 PM   
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I keep all of Mine on OD most of the time, males and females, both get desperate, and will even have orgasms in their sleep.  I have seen this in both males and females again.  I usually will allow an orgasm either after a really hard play time that was well handled, or once they are desperate enough, I will allow them to barter with Me to have one, in exchange for sometime else of course!
 
I have also had this go the other way, after a three or four weeks of constant denial, both males and females have at times, lost the urge, but after a few minutes of suggestion, they are right back, LOL.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 10:13:10 PM   
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Longest denial was a couple of weeks.  For me, squirming frantically on the edge is as enjoyable as the release - he enjoys both immensely and I love the torment.  When finally able to release, whenever it is, it is explosive.

And that NEVER happens without his permission. 

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RE: Do You ever - 12/15/2007 11:43:57 PM   
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I absolutely love to be teased into a frenzy and denied.  I love to be teased lightly all day with verbal hints and suggestive touches, or a little more from time to time... touching over the clothes until I'm begging for more, and then the skin but not the really good spots, making me beg and plead until I think I'll die if I don't have it...  At that point I'll cum at the slightest touch.  I love it to drag on as long as we can stand it, but that has never been more that a day.  I think if it went on longer than that and I had to go to sleep unsatisfied I'd be a very grouchy girl and not likely to get in the mood easily again. 

I am also being trained for orgasm control, which is frustrating at times, but I enjoy the concept, and most of the time the practice too.  I have to ask/beg perission to cum when I'm close unless it is given already.  But, sometimes I loose it when I have to beg first.  And if I'm really, really close and am told 'not yet' and I have to fight it down, it can be really hard to get it back later, or it happens anyway but it is a pooper 'cause I'm trying not to and I don't let myself give in and enjoy it. 


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RE: Do You ever - 12/16/2007 6:47:52 AM   
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I don't do long term, but sometimes I will tell a sub to masturbate to the brink of orgasm and stay there until I say she can come. This maintains arousal and has the effect of immediate denial. I don't hold her off for more than a couple minutes though, and begging will definitely help.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/16/2007 8:53:55 AM   
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I am also being trained for orgasm control, which is frustrating at times, but I enjoy the concept, and most of the time the practice too.  I have to ask/beg perission to cum when I'm close unless it is given already.  But, sometimes I loose it when I have to beg first.  And if I'm really, really close and am told 'not yet' and I have to fight it down, it can be really hard to get it back later, or it happens anyway but it is a pooper 'cause I'm trying not to and I don't let myself give in and enjoy it. 


i have had similar training but if i am told "not yet" my body has a different reaction, i go completely numb and i don't have an orgasm....i also won't have an orgasm for the next 12 or so hours....and very few men believe me until it actually happens...and some never believe me...i fake an orgasm with them and never have sex with them again....


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RE: Do You ever - 12/16/2007 8:56:28 AM   
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I don't do denial either, at least not for long.  Like was said, I may have her hold off for a few, but in the end, I LIKE to watch her cum ;)  I like the actions, the sounds, the responses.  I have to hold MYSELF off, but never her.

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RE: Do You ever - 12/16/2007 9:19:15 AM   
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I have just started to explore orgasm denial and I have to tell you...when he described to me how miserable he would be because I did not let him get off it totally turned me on!!  I was instantly wet with the thought of him waking up several times in the night with a hard cock and not being allowed to do anything about it.  I do not see me doing this for too long though as I equally enjoy his orgasms.

Oh how I love to explore!!

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RE: Do You ever - 12/16/2007 10:56:37 AM   
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Daddy generally denies me for a couple of days to a week, at most. If he gets me too worked up, sometimes I can't sleep. When I'm that worked up, I can get wet from simply walking. I love it - I love aching and longing and hurting. I love that  he'll have sex with me all the while ordering me not to orgasm, until he cums inside of me and leaves me hurting and sobbing. At times, when he does that, he has to pin my legs open because just closing them could make me climax.

I honestly wish the insomnia didn't happen because I would love to see how far it could go and how long he would deny me.

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