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The body of the condemned - 8/17/2005 5:56:33 PM   
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The hold on the body will never entirely disappear as history can attest. Governed punishment ceased to be centered on torture as a technique of pain; it assumed as its principal object loss of wealth or rights. Even a punishment such as forced labor or imprisonment has never functioned without a certain additional element of punishment that certainly concerns the body itself: rationing of food, sexual deprivation, corporal punishment, solitary confinement. The expiation that once rained down upon the body must be replaced by a punishment that acts in depth on the heart, the thoughts, the will, and the inclinations. Punishment should strike the soul rather than the body.

These things we’ve learned and utilized to our advantage and or enhancement in the D/s and M/s relationships we become involved in. Torture within the lifestyle/bdsm principles aren’t viewed as inhumane, but just, and necessary to act upon the body as well as the mind by methods of discipline and pleasure.

The body of the submissive is both destined and bound in servitude to the Dominant serving as an instrument in which the Dominant intervenes upon to imprison it, or make them work; it is in order to deprive the submissive of a liberty both as a right and as property they become caught up in a system of constraints and privations, obligations and prohibitions.

It is my belief that the submissive body becomes an object of knowledge for the body acts as a conduit to the psyche of the Dominant their essential means of control. Through them their training the submissive is reborn by methods of punishment, supervision, and constraints that subjugate into a body of perceptive servitude the very soul of completeness that inhabits the submissive and brings them into existence, which is itself a factor in the mastery that power exercises over the body.

This power is not applied simply as an obligation or a prohibition on those who do not have it; it invests them, trained and tortured, marking them, forced to carry out tasks, perform rituals, is transmitted by them and through them; it exerts pressure upon them, just as they themselves, in their struggle against it, resist the grip it has on them.

The soul is the effect and instrument of the Dominant; the soul is the prison of the body, the body of the condemned, the submissive/slave under the domain of the Dominant.

The body our parchment, in which we etch and scribe our teachings, the host of our soul and mind our very existence, what do you suppose would happen if the body ceased to be an option of use/power and or absorption/knowledge?

How would this change us ? And by change I mean if the body were completely taken away how would this affect us (how we interact with one another) based on a D/s or M/s relationship?

Through out the history of time the body has been used and abused and then later safeguarded against through limitations of its use, one might say that it is now the soul that we have dealings with, but its host the body is still affected in some regard. And I now sit here and wonder if the time will ever come when someone will find a way to entirely eliminate its use or find a more effective/non personal way of limiting the connection between body and soul there by reducing the gray areas/fundamental reactions of the body towards applied actions.

Would we still be conduits, could we still react with one another?

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RE: The body of the condemned - 8/17/2005 8:03:56 PM   
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The body our parchment, in which we etch and scribe our teachings, the host of our soul and mind our very existence, what do you suppose would happen if the body ceased to be an option of use/power and or absorption/knowledge?

First off, your model of sub = passive vessel and dom = active pouring into vessel is a bit too clean and constrictive for my tastes and not really suited to describe how many relationships work.

I'm not completely sure what you are asking- are you asking what would happen if we left our bodies and became nothing but perhaps only the letters on screens? Only ephemeral concepts/spirits?

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How would this change us ? And by change I mean if the body were completely taken away how would this affect us (how we interact with one another) based on a D/s or M/s relationship?

If I suddenly lost my body right now I'd probably feel some sorrow. I like this body, I am here to experience things with this body that can only be experienced by HAVING a body. The physical plane IS a wonderful amazing plane to exist on and we spend so little time doing that...I'd miss it a lot if it were just taken away.

But I believe I'd still be me.

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RE: The body of the condemned - 8/17/2005 8:17:03 PM   
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My written focus had to do with the body as the targeted vehicle of torture and how society has repressed its punishable use and how we life-styler’s have stepped in and embrace such forceful brutality by punishing through correction and or pleasure and what it could mean to us should the use of our bodies as we know it be taken away from us in much the same way society has modernized punishment and redefined its use.

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RE: The body of the condemned - 8/17/2005 8:20:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cheekybottom

My written focus had to do with the body as the targeted vehicle of torture and how society has repressed its punishable use and how we life-styler’s have stepped in and embrace such forceful brutality by punishing through correction and or pleasure and what it could mean to us should the use of our bodies as we know it be taken away from us in much the same way society has modernized punishment and redefined its use.

~d~


Well society hasn't repressed an such thing, it's simply directed it differently. Ballerinas and most other athletes put themselves through far more pain and over longer times than most masochists would ever choose to endure.

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RE: The body of the condemned - 8/17/2005 8:35:25 PM   
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When I wrote this I had penalty in mind and the progression it underwent. Punishment through a thousand tiny deaths before it lead to the death and now prisoners have rights, we have rights. If you incur the death sentence you are insured not to suffer it, you’re right to feeling has been revoked and so the soul is dealt with and yet the body hosts it and so there is still acts of suffering going on. Sure athletes push themselves which might seem as though they are inflicting pain upon their body which isn’t to say they are or they aren’t at any rate this isn’t what I meant.

How about this: if society found a way to further control you’re body no matter if you we’re a wrong doer or not, just because they could, how in you’re mind would this affect you, you no longer have rights to feel in you’re BDSM life.

Smiles, I’m musing here, no one has to deal with it only humor me ;-)

Hugs,
~d~


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