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willing2obey31 -> a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 7:16:26 PM)

   Now before i say anything about it i just want to say that i know there is  some of the Mistresses out there that might be into this, but i know that there is not many Who is.
  Who on here would actually put Their sub out where men could use the sub on a daily basics for their sexually pleasure?
    and why would You do such a thing..... "because I am their owner/Mistress" is not really a answer because that one is a answer that is plain as day.
 
 
willing2obey31



LadyHibiscus -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 7:34:48 PM)

Do you mean would I pimp out my sub?  Um, no.  STD/AIDS issues aside, why would I risk damage to my toy?



LaMistressa -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 8:07:10 PM)

I know of only one other male sub who has talked to me about this, and I honestly think it was more a fantasy of his vs. a common occurance. None of the Dominent women I know locally do this to their submissives. They may do a "forced" bi scene or something like that, but not trick a sub out on a daily basis. 



laurell3 -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 8:16:36 PM)

I supposed like all things a Mistress would do it because that is the agreed upon dynamic.  Forced homosexuality is really more of a fantasy in my opinion.  If one will engage in sexual behavior with another of the same sex, it's not really "forced" now is it?



domahpet -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 8:22:53 PM)

Ive seen ads on craigslist about this sort of situation
"use my sub for the day"



willing2obey31 -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 8:31:02 PM)

i knew this was the response that i would get... now maybe he will belive me. if there is a Mistress out there that would do this... well then She is a cruel person in my book, because that means that She really does not care about Her slave. i am sure that there is Some out there... i just hope that i never cross paths with Her though



laurell3 -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 8:37:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willing2obey31

i knew this was the response that i would get... now maybe he will belive me. if there is a Mistress out there that would do this... well then She is a cruel person in my book, because that means that She really does not care about Her slave. i am sure that there is Some out there... i just hope that i never cross paths with Her though


Wrong.  If they agree to that dynamic there is nothing cruel about it and it does not mean they don't care.  There are those here that are used or loaned out to others consentually and enjoy it.  Be careful when you jump on the judgmental bandwagon lest you be judged as well or start sounding like those that judge all of wiitwd.



willing2obey31 -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 9:28:59 PM)

ok well i am wrong... and i will take Your advice



iwearpanties -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 9:54:50 PM)

this colud also be a a form of humiliation to the submale being taken by a Dom male  even if only session time or play time



LadyLynx -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 10:52:44 PM)

this is something that appeals to me ALOT! However I would never attempt to do this with someone who wasn't willing.  (the concept of 'forced' just bugs me.) I would be part of the screening process every step of the way, demand std testing, (and my sub would do the same.) have long detailed conversations with whom ever would be involved. getting to know them. And if I feel at all uneasy about the situation, or my sub does, not going thru with it, or taking a few steps back.



Najakcharmer -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/15/2007 11:44:29 PM)

Very hot fantasy, and one that can be played out safely if you arrange it properly ahead of time with the right people.

In reality....not so much.  Not in this day and age of AIDS and other STD's.  Nice idea on a perfect planet, but it doesn't work so well on this one.



LadyHugs -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 12:41:58 AM)

Dear willing2obey31, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my relationships with male slaves and submissives, I have had Gay men, Bi-sexual men and Heterosexual men to whom were mine in submission.
 
I never put my men 'out' for another man's use unless they were really good friends with me and my male slaves and or submissives. 
 
Having had a few who were curious about man-on-man sex, my dear friend who is Gay and STD and AIDS free; has always been most willing to talk man-to-man about all the dangers, the myths and all things sexual.  He never pushes, forces and bends backwards as a good man, a good Master and a good teacher.  He allows the slave/submissive to go at their own paces--even to stop cold turkey and chicken out.  But, all of us -- my Gay Master friend, my slave/submissive and myself--know how important consent, trust and safe sexual practices are.  Fantasy or not--at least my lads are in safe hands--I never go outside my Gay Leather Family when it comes to sex.
None have had a bad experience and only add to the friendship if nothing else--and my slaves and or submissives gladly serve if and when they are needed/wanted, beyond the sex factor, eg. helping around the house, doing errands, adding to the serving aspects for dinners, parties, etc.
 
No way would I loan, give, put in a position, command/demand a male slave/submissive to engage in sexual activities of any sort--to include fake phallus play, etc; to those men I do not know fully and have no history with. 
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 



MasterFireMaam -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 12:52:59 AM)

If this really was a kink for me and he enjoyed having sex with men, I'd consider finding a group of lovers, tested and clean, for him then stud him out. I wouldn't do it with just any random man and it'd always be safe sex.

But, the notion doesn't really do anything for me, so I won't be doing it.

Master Fire



MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 2:37:39 AM)

oops!  Double posting




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 3:10:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

quote:

ORIGINAL: willing2obey31


Who on here would actually put Their sub out where men could use the sub on a daily basics for their sexually pleasure?
    and why would You do such a thing..... "because I am their owner/Mistress" is not really a answer because that one is a answer that is plain as day.
 
 
willing2obey31


I  had a sub (a gigantic professional football player) who really wanted forced bi, so as a reward I took him into the "backroom" at a giant gay dance party (on a collar and lead).  

It was dark, hot, sweaty and swarming with 100s of gay men (I kid you not) all sucking and fucking at once.

I dragged my "het" pro-ball playing boy into this heaving, steaming mosh pit of shagging and he was quickly pretty popular on his knees. 

(Safe sex is encouraged at these events)

Eventually security figured out there was a black latex clad dominatrix with a slave in the male-only sex area and kicked me out.  But it was worth it. It was hot.  And the leather gay guys were really, really nice to me, (all things considered)

Was the sub traumatised?  No way.  He had a ball (lots in fact.....) and started begging me to "force" him into gay saunas after that. 

What can I say, willingtoobey?  Its a very sick world (thank goddess!!!!!)

As long as the Mistress cares about health, obtains consent and respects your friend's right to withdraw his consent (safeword), is it so bad if your friend wants to be used by men for sex? 







willing2obey31 -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 5:00:50 AM)

wel as i mention and i do believe that because of the posts that was added i should once again say i was wrong. Thanks to You all for the insight.



thetammyjo -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 7:42:32 AM)

With strangers, no, I just don't consider the risks of disease to be justified in such situations.

However, within a poly fluid bonded household I think that would be very hot. It is certainly something I've written into some of my fiction where things like STDs are a bit worry.



Lashra -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/16/2007 10:13:07 AM)

I would never do this. My sub is my slut and my slut alone anyone else can go find one of their own.

~Lashra



MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/17/2007 2:08:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: willing2obey31

wel as i mention and i do believe that because of the posts that was added i should once again say i was wrong. Thanks to You all for the insight.



Your question was not 'wrong' at all!  It was a good question from a new person

It is perfectly normal to be shocked and curious about other people's strange kinks.  And to be nervous that a Mistress might make you do those things. 

One day you will be totally blase about the weird stuff other BDSM people do....and that will be a kind of sad day.

This thread is interesting because it shows not all Mistresses are the same.  Some would love to loan out their subs to men, some would hate it and some would do it in very limited circumstances.  But hopefully no-one would do it without the eager consent of their sub.  So there should be nothing to worry about.





leatherzack -> RE: a conversation between me & another male sub... (12/17/2007 3:39:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

It is perfectly normal to be shocked and curious about other people's strange kinks.  And to be nervous that a Mistress might make you do those things. 



If i can add my two cents, i've discovered than once involved in a deep D/s relationship, things that could seem terrible or even shocking before could become quite appealing.

I think that if there is a good reason for a Mistress to ask something, then it could chenge the way i consider it and make me ready to, at least, try it.



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