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Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:21:21 PM

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I have always had a desire to be on the receiving end of what i can only identify as this type of punishment where there is no safe word used and the punishment is dealt with in full.
Now the nature of this isnt as brutal as say judicial punishment but still intense enough to be very unpleasant.
Now the problem i have is that i do not want to bring on such a punishment because to do so i know it would mean having to upset
or anger my Mistress intentionally and i dont feel comfortable with doing that and also who is to say she would use another form of punishment also!
Now i feel uncomfortable discussing this sort of thing with her mainly because i dont like asking for things and if i did ask or tell her i desire this sort of senario
then wouldnt it instantly become a setup play scene if she does agree to it and therefore the mindset would not be the same as true punishment.
Im really not sure if there is actually an answer to these thoughts but id love hear from Dommes who perhaps have dealt with similar desires.
I just wish to add that my Domme is very caring and not one who just deals out physical pain at the drop of a hat i do know she loves using the cane as discipline but this is sort of going beyond the play scene i feel?

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:30:00 PM

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I am not a punisher in my relationships, but punishment SCENES can be very hot. I hope that you are allowed to speak up about what you would like to do---ask for it!

It is not possible for you to control what is in someone else's mind. I feel it would be a mistake for you to try and provoke your dominant into wanting to punish you. First of all, no responsible dom will use physical force when he or she is angry. Secondly, using a physical punishment on someone that craves it is defeating the purpose.

Explain what you want, and if you can, why. Hope for the best. Not every dominant identifies as a sadist--for those that are not, I imagine dishing out serious pain is not all that much fun. It might be something you have to work up to together. Alternatively, how would you feel about another top being brought in to deal the blows, while your own dominant watched? Could be interesting!

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:30:59 PM

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It sounds to me more like you want to push your limits in SM.

Why not approach these activities then as SM and not as some punishment scenario?

That way you can negotiate appropriate safewords or lack of them for a session and the types of SM you want.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:37:17 PM

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thankyou for your response Lady Hibiscus..if it helps with my question at all the desire i have is for it to feel like punishment so my mindset would have to be so that it was unpleasant otherwise isnt it going to fall back into the area of enjoyable roleplay?
This is by no means something i wish to experience repeatedly but i have had these feelings for long enough to want to try.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:41:30 PM

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Punishment scenes are not the same as regular S/m play---a caning with no warmup might be the last experience of that kind that you want!

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:41:47 PM

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Dear fit2pleaseu, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I would want any slave/submissive/servant of mine to communicate clearly what they have in their heart and mind as far as what desires/needs and or ideas they have.

There is definately a focus on a more intense pain experience to where your mind needs to set it into a punishment scenario and or torture scenario. So, why not ask for an interrogation scene and or a scene with the elements that you are excited by? And, you can ask if you can experience just the application of the pain without the scenarios as to see if you can get into the same space.

I would be more than happy to experiment with a slave to find a nice way to satisfy the both of us.

Just some thoughts,

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:48:08 PM

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I think the point of no warmup being vastly more painful has been noted and taken on board.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:49:42 PM

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I dont ever give a warm up when I am punishing a slave. For play yes, but for punishment, no.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 12:52:18 PM

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just to add because this would be pushing boundaries or limits im thinking it could be quite a difficult task for a Mistress to deliver such treatment in terms of intensities would this be the case in your experiences?

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 1:06:02 PM

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Ask her for a "punishment scene" where there's little or no warm up. Perhaps she'll even be willing to role play with you. You don't have to actually do anything wrong...it's just a different kind of scene.

Ha! I should have read others' responses. JINX on the no warm-up!

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 1:54:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fit2pleaseu

just to add because this would be pushing boundaries or limits im thinking it could be quite a difficult task for a Mistress to deliver such treatment in terms of intensities would this be the case in your experiences?

Not if what you want doesn't cross her own limits -- tops/doms do indeed have limits -- and it's something she wants to do too. She might try it to please but in order to get a real push of your limits I suspect she'll need to want to do that strongly herself.

If you are both communicating well there's nothing in your way in terms of a scene or scenes to push your or her limits.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 4:24:11 PM

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...i hear what you are saying re limits..you may have thought i was meaning Mistress may be out of her comfort zone in terms of intensities but i doubt that would be the case and im sure my limits would be reached well before hers!!
i was thinking more about how difficult it would be for her to reach the required intensities for such a scene but without taking them too far beyond my limits.
i know that i will talk to Mistress about all this eventually but i feel getting some different ideas here can only help in the long run.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 5:45:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fit2pleaseu

...i hear what you are saying re limits..you may have thought i was meaning Mistress may be out of her comfort zone in terms of intensities but i doubt that would be the case and im sure my limits would be reached well before hers!!
i was thinking more about how difficult it would be for her to reach the required intensities for such a scene but without taking them too far beyond my limits.
i know that i will talk to Mistress about all this eventually but i feel getting some different ideas here can only help in the long run.

That's where having safewords is useful.

You can scream and curse and yell all you want but until a safeword is called, the scene continues.

Since you are expressing the desire to be pushed I'm assuming you'd take your responsibility in using safewords very seriously and would only use them if there were serious problems.

Her job then is to respect the safeword.

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/17/2007 7:10:58 PM

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Id like to think that was the case..and a safeword is probably the solution to the intensity issue especially as i dont know how i would react.
thanks for your posts

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/18/2007 6:55:48 AM

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Well safewords are not an option in My scenes/sessions.

I enjoy administering cp without a reason of punishment, to My Cp enthusiasts. I determine how many strokes Mine endure, I also enjoy administering a good warm up prior, I enjoy the build up just aswell as the thrashes.

I suggest maybe you play games of chance, throw of a dice, cards etc. These add a great dynamic to non punishment cp senarios, and yes, there are those that enjoy cp without the reason for punishment and correction.

I once told a sub that I would thrash the c** out of him, and I did lol. I also enjoy My "no mercy" strokes, towards the latter of the scene, where I simply thrash until My arm tires. I do enjoy cp :)

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/18/2007 7:51:44 AM

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having watched the film of the Malaysian judicial punishment a few months back, my slave wanted to undergo the same thing. I was hesitant, but what can I say? He insisted he wanted it - and I'm a sadist, so it worked out OK.

no warm up, just 20 proper, full force lashes with a birch (closest thing we could find). It wasnt too bad to start with (apparently), but about mid way through it got worse. By the end, he was writhing and gasping quite a bit, and it drew blood which I dont like to do. He was quite pleased to have undergone it - I thought it was a bit boring as an activity overall in that it was over too quickly and very monotonous.

But one ought to be careful, what one wishes for

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RE: Corporal Punishment - 12/18/2007 10:13:04 AM

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I just want to thankyou all for your thoughts i have now spoken with my Mistress about my thoughts and she is more than willing to help me with a realistic punishment scene.

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