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BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/17/2007 11:07:07 PM   
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is there a difference between a BDSM whip and an actual riding crop? in my personal experience.. a riding crop bends more..
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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/17/2007 11:27:19 PM   
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Im not sure but I would love to hear the answer :)

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/17/2007 11:50:27 PM   
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a whip has a fall /tail/ cracker type end .A crop will have a flat type end . Maybe your refering to a swagger stick ?

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 4:58:36 AM   
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A whip is a mostly flexible braided implement. Riding crops are more like canes with a handle, flexible shaft and a small slapper attached to the end.

Whips bend / flex a lot more than any crop I've ever seen.

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 5:02:42 AM   
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a whip is a whip, quite often singletail round the 3 foot range, anything bigger and you are starting to fling dressers around the bedroom and light fixtures get severely misplaced, because you are the center of a 23 foot radius ball-----thats big enough.

a crop is a crop, yes, much like a swagger stick (although indeed they are a form of whip too)

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 6:04:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

...anything bigger and you are starting to fling dressers around the bedroom and light fixtures get severely misplaced....
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lol, love that :)


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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 6:11:14 AM   
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With a BDSM crop.. i have tended to notice that it doesnt bend as much as an actual horse riding crop..

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 7:06:17 AM   
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TMaster2... I love your sig line...

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 7:24:39 AM   
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I see my finger skidded, i mean a 2 to 3 foot radius with the whip holder at the center.

Riding crops are often called riding bats (most especially in england) and at one time the swagger stick was a riding bat, but when horses gave way to tanks they didnt need the leather slapper on the end.

That is why an English officers valet is called a batman.

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 7:32:49 AM   
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Riding implements include crops, lunge(sp) whips, dressage whips. All are very different. to see examples try www.statelinetack.com

Great source for moderately priced tack of good quality but not a good source for chaps fwiw.

There are also bull whips. http://www.halenarsw.com/cart/category.cfm?cat=62&UserID=-73463390

I'm not sure what is a BDSM whip/crop. He just uses the lesson crop from the tack store. Lessons crops come in all kind of colors and are cheaper than show ones, frequently nylon wrapped instead of all black leather.

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 7:36:00 AM   
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What surprises me is the poster is from Austrailia, the whip coterie of the world.

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RE: BDSM Whip or Riding Crop? - 12/18/2007 3:56:56 PM   
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Dear collarsubkitty, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I am an equestrian as well as I drive horses.
 
In horse/pony/cob/draft circles; there are certain differences between a whip and a crop.
 
A crop usually has a flap, a tab, a cut out hand, butterfly shape and or something that would 'slap' and move the horse forward.
 
A whip, is usually with a narrow cracker/popper, much like one will find on a single tail.  Some are nylon, some are thread, some are horse hair and some are Kevalar.
 
A bat, is usually much smaller version of a crop.  It is designed for children and used on ponies.
 
Length of the shaft of the whip also has importance, as well as gains flexibility the longer it is.  The equestrian whip is to the length as to touch behind the rider's leg, hindquarters and aids the rider in moving a horse forward.  A saddlebred/five gated/three gated/Park horse whip is slightly longer but, not by much and shorter than a Dressage whip.  A Dressage whip is long as to permit the rider to keep their hands before them and reach back and touch the hocks or back of the leg, to drive a horse 'under' and tuck and propell themselves forward.' The handle of a Dressage whip usually has a upside down 'top hat' as to keep it from falling through the hands.  A Whisk, is a whip which looks similiar to a whip however, the end is created from a horse's tail.  A Cart Whip is thicker diameter but, same length as a Dressage whip.  A Buggy whip is as long as a Cart Whip and 1/2 more length.  The Carriage Whip is again slightly longer than a Buggy whip and a Coaching whip is same length as a lounging whip--where an equestrian stands on the ground and has a horse go in circles and the whip keeps the horse 'out' and not drift in as well as give signals to the horse.
 
BDSM Whips are usually regular horse crops and riding whips with garnishes to make it look showy.  Glitter, glitter dust and such--designed for Adult stores.
 
Flexibility depends on length as well as the whip's core.  Most modern riding whips are made of nylon and older whips that went out of style in my earlier riding days in the 1960s were made of bone and rigid, the shaft was either exposed or covered in leather. 
 
Hope this helps.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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