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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/18/2007 8:20:54 AM

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I think it's helpful if he feels the sensations the implement can produce, whether that means hitting himself hard with it or asking someone else. I know when it comes to bondage, it would have been helpful if he had ever had his ankles tied together so the bones rubbed. He just didn't realize the importance of not doing this until I had to stop play abruptly several times because of how very painful this is.

He has this odd sewing thing, sort of a pointy wheel, and the first time he used it on me, once I was untied I grabbed it and ran it up his leg. I wanted to know if my reactions to it and his were the same. Luckily he thought that was funny.

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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/18/2007 1:32:05 PM

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So it seems that the majority disagree with my idea. Intresting and acceptable. I see it from your point of view very well and it is part of was vexs me. I desire to see it first hand from both sides, even though in my heart it kills me to submit. Miltary life tells me that, the rebelous nature i have through my training in it, the attitude i give my supervisors while enjoying the bit of control i have as i am in longer and longer. I thank you all for oyu time and insight. I has done great good for me.

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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/18/2007 1:45:35 PM

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Well, si, then go Nike and just do it.

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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/18/2007 6:21:42 PM

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I'm the dreaded switch type and I can tell you for me the two things are not even remotely similar. You cannot learn one from the other. You may have a bit more empathy, however, it only goes as far as how YOU process events, accept commands, etc. That generally isn't really all that good sometimes when applied to other people. A good Dom/me does need to know how to listen and assess your needs and encourage communication so they can address those needs. That's so much more important than switching will ever be as one cannot truly learn what it means to emotionally submit just by wearing restraints. If anything it will give you a rather unpleasant experience which hopefully isn't similar to any submissive you are with.

< Message edited by laurell3 -- 12/18/2007 6:33:40 PM >

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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/18/2007 8:21:13 PM

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Ideals- can you honestly say that you can understand how another slave feels and experiences their relationship?

And that's someone with the same orientation as you.

Would you think a heterosexual needs to have sex with someone of the same sex in order to understand what sex is like for their partner?

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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/23/2007 11:57:31 PM

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I use to believe that a Dominant needed to have some type of experience as a submissive to fully understand me. Now though, I feel it is really an individual thing. I have met Dominants who have never been submissive and they understood me to a T and understood my submission ect. So to me it is an individual thing.

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RE: From a Sub POV - 12/23/2007 11:59:48 PM

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Absolutely flowspen. That is the most perfect answer I have read.

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