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At least they don't work at the airport - 12/18/2007 7:13:54 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out how they could miss such a thing...

Rescue workers send crash victim to impound yard

More facts here, but still no answers. She WAS wearing her seat belt.
http://www.presstelegram.com/ci_7747189

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RE: At least they don't work at the airport - 12/18/2007 7:34:35 PM

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Gads, what an awful mess! Well, everyone at the crash site assumed that someone else had looked and nobody took the initiative to make sure no other persons or animals were in the vehicle. Dumb-asses!

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RE: At least they don't work at the airport - 12/19/2007 4:48:47 PM

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Since there aren't any pics to show the extent of damage to the vehicle, it's quite possible that she was actually mashed up under the dashboard, and the airbag covered her up. If the driver was unconscious, and there weren't any indications of another person in the vehicle, they may not have looked that closely. I'm not making excuses, the cops and firefighters I know will check and double check any vehicles involved just because of horror stories like this....but with smaller cars these days, it doesn't take much to crush them into a shoebox.....or coffin. It's also possible that she may have slid out of the seatbelt, ending up under the dashboard. This happened to my niece because she was so small and petite that she literally flew out of the booster seat she was in and was thrown through the windshield.

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RE: At least they don't work at the airport - 12/19/2007 5:48:59 PM

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Check the second link I posted in the OP. Full-size sedan. The idea that she wound up on the floor occured to me as well, but she was still sitting in the passenger seat, wearing her seat belt when police found her in the impound yard.

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RE: At least they don't work at the airport - 12/19/2007 5:59:58 PM

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Sorry...missed the second link. This is just a sad story all the way around, I feel for the family involved.

Read the article, looked at the caption under the photograph, it indicated that she was under the dashboard, covered by the air bag. It was a Grand Marquis...not sure how familiar you are with them, but when you are sitting in the front seat, you are almost sitting in an "L" shape.....your legs are almost at a right angle to your body, (my parents have one, it was impossible for me to get used to driving it because it was such a different position from my full sized truck), and if the impact was hard enough, and it sounds like it was pretty severe, the whole seat itself could have moved forward after breaking loose from the underseat morrings. The vehicle comes standard w/60/40 front seats, so just because the driver's seat was intact doesn't mean that her's wasn't. And the airbags on the passenger side are pretty big, due to the fact you can seat 3 in the front seat. Going through the wall of a building with no signs of breaking prior to impact had to have been a pretty significant impact. Even on a frontage road, and I'm guessing as to whether or not they were based on info from the story, people still tend to do at least 55 mph. Even surface streets mean 45-50 mph.

This still doesn't defend the fact that no one looked, even tho the driver said he was alone.....that's like basic academy training for cops, and I know fire fighters are well-trained in motor vehicle accidents. It's just an explanation of the dynamics of the accident, how they MIGHT have been...it's been a long time since I actually did accident reconstruction.

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RE: At least they don't work at the airport - 12/19/2007 11:17:44 PM

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he was, as the report states.

Lucid and talkative, Williams, 42, .

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RE: At least they don't work at the airport - 12/19/2007 11:19:07 PM

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I used to wonder/worry about being declared dead while I was still alive.
It has happened many times before, you know.
ugh, something new to worry about.

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