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SlaveTiffany -> No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:08:03 AM)
Hi everyone! I've got a quick question....can you still consider yourself a slave if you don't enjoy or recieve beatings? My Master and I don't usually use physical punishment often and I've been told by more than a few people that I should stop calling myself a slave unless I recieve regular beatings. It's the first I've heard of it....I thought that being a slave was a mental thing more than a physical thing....but maybe I'm wrong. I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. Thanks! Ta! Tiffany Angel

IrishMist -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:18:17 AM)
Hmm you can call yourself anything you want to call yourself. Unless of course...OTHER PEOPLE define your relationship...if that is the case; then perhaps you should ask those who tell you you are not a slave what you should be calling yourself instead. Now, if you follow the advice of others, be prepeared for me to call you stupid.

SlaveTiffany -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:22:33 AM)
Good point, IrishMist. No, I don't allow others to control my relationship, I was just asking for other input. I intend to continue calling myself a slave, no matter what anyone says (unless of course it's my Master who's saying something.) So no stupid here....at least not in that area. Other areas...yeah, I can be stupid, but then again, who can't? Ta!

ownedgirlie -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:25:23 AM)
Do you submit to your Master's will? If you do, that is all you need to concern yourself with. And for what it's worth, my Master does not "beat" me. He loathes the word, beating. He might flog me or belt me, or spank me, etc., but to him, "beating" denotes an uncontrolled infliction of corporal punishment, with no regard to the safety or well being of the subject being beaten. This is not everyone's definition of it, obviously, but I am not allowed to use that word in reference to him, because of how he feels about it. He takes great care to not harm me, and to not give me more than I can physically or emotionally take, so he does not like me referring to him in such a negative (in his opinion) way. Having said that, I do not like pain at all. When he pulls out his whipping implement of choice, I cringe and brace myself, and it's all I can do to not beg him to spare me, please! He doesn't care if I like it or not. He knows he won't be damaging me, and sometimes he just wants me to feel pain. I submit to his will and take it. But whether it's a whipping or whether it's shining his work shoes, I am submitting to his will and doing what he wants. This makes me submissive to him. You will find that many people have varying defintions of certain words - slave, submissive, Master/Mistress, dominant, and now - even beating. I am my Master's slave because what I am to him fits our shared definition of what that is. As I said, if you are submitting to his will and you are both fulfilled by that, then do not worry what others feel the need to say you are...or are not. You and your Master know.

IrishMist -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:25:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SlaveTiffany Good point, IrishMist. No, I don't allow others to control my relationship, I was just asking for other input. I intend to continue calling myself a slave, no matter what anyone says (unless of course it's my Master who's saying something.) So no stupid here....at least not in that area. Other areas...yeah, I can be stupid, but then again, who can't? Ta! LOL that's the spirit. [:D]

RCdc -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:27:05 AM)
Yes.(It felt like a short answer kinda question) the.dark.

mnottertail -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:27:25 AM)
The best slaves are the ones that avoid beatings and punishments, they are the ones who are looking to please and be excellent. I want a slave that doesn't even remember the last time she was punished, she has done such a good service that it is unnecessary to correct, discipline, or punish her. That is not to say that if you want a beating for catharsis, you won't get it....Nah---if you want a beating, just ask for one, I'll be more than happy to kick the dogshit outta you. Ron

ownedgirlie -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:27:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark Yes.(It felt like a short answer kinda question) the.dark. Ha! As always, I used 100 words to say what could have been said in 1. [;)]

IrishMist -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:32:20 AM)
quote: That is not to say that if you want a beating for catharsis, you won't get it....Nah---if you want a beating, just ask for one, I'll be more than happy to kick the dogshit outta you. LOL why is that such a turn on? Kick the dogshit out of you lol. LMAO

RCdc -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:39:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark Yes.(It felt like a short answer kinda question) the.dark. Ha! As always, I used 100 words to say what could have been said in 1. [;)] Yeah - but I said it in one and STILL made a bloody typo![:D] the.dark.[8\|] (.whoisboundtofuckupspellingwiseagainatsomepoint.) (.see.)

RCdc -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:42:13 AM)
Hey - is it just me, or is it not saying that the messages above(myones) has been edited?(I know - hijack - sorry) the.dark.

mhawk -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 9:48:32 AM)
i thank goodness that i have not been punished yet.both my Lord and my Mistress have had no reason to punish me as of yet. as far as i beleive it just is not just slaves who like or dislike pain and that doesn't entirely make one a slave or not as well. to me being a slave means giving your Master/Owner your full surrender,submission, and obedience.being a slave to me doesn't mean you have to like pain,i happen to like it but that is just part of who i am it doesn't make me any less of a slave and shouldn't make anyone else any less of a slave.

TMaster2 -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 10:05:10 AM)
hogwash -- you are right, a slave is a mental state, and if there are not beatings to receive, then that is good, eh? but whether there are or not does not determine who/what you are, you and your SO do.

SlaveTiffany -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 10:14:31 AM)
Goddess bless! I have to admit that I thought after reading IrishMist's first post that I was in for a world of being called stupid but boy was I wrong! Thank you to everyone who has taken time to offer their outlook and advice. It's nice to have other people think the same things as you, just in a different way. Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

IrishMist -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 10:40:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SlaveTiffany Goddess bless! I have to admit that I thought after reading IrishMist's first post that I was in for a world of being called stupid but boy was I wrong! Thank you to everyone who has taken time to offer their outlook and advice. It's nice to have other people think the same things as you, just in a different way. Thankyouthankyouthankyou! HAHA...stick around and I can remedy that real quick [8D]

Jeffff -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 11:10:25 AM)
Some call it punishment........some call it a reward........I prefer the term......fun[8D] Jeff

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 11:59:47 AM)
sorry cannot help you here - don't know what it's like being a slave and /or to receive beatings i receive and enjoy spankings as a reward for being good. thank goodnes mine don't resort to beatings

petpete -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 12:16:01 PM)
ST, i believe we're not the only ones who enjoy pain. i believe the only one who can give someone a title is the Dominant that exerts the training on his subject. It is up to Him or Her to define what you are called. Pain for me is not a turn on although i am tempted to be subjected to it for the pleasure of my Mistress. However She has to have a very good idea of my limitations as ofcourse i am not a masochist. i tend to call myself a submissive for the reasons of my limitations but i would prefer to be called a slave.

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 12:58:12 PM)
That is absolute crap and sounds like someone with warped "one true way" theory. You can identify with whatever you feel in your heart. Not everyone enjoys the s&m side, some just want the control or other aspects. The only opinion that should matter is your Master's. Don't let others idiotic opinions cause you to doubt yourself and your relationship with your Master.

DesFIP -> RE: No idea what to call this post.... (12/20/2007 1:49:14 PM)
Dominant does not equal sadist nor does submissive equal masochist. I know of sadistic subs and masochistic doms. I also know those who are neither. We are not into s & m, play activities for us are bondage and sex, both together. We don't have a punishment dynamic. He uses positive reinforcement on me because that's what works on me. If I'm having a problem with something, then beating me doesn't magically solve the problem or enable mind reading. It would make me less willing to do what he wanted, less willing to talk to him, and it would kill my sex drive. Holding me while talking to me allows me to figure out the problem and express it at which point he can then solve the problem bringing it to a successful conclusion. We aim always for a win/win solution. And we've been together for over four years so it works for us.

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