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kyakitten -> R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/19/2005 7:09:57 PM)

Just curious what people here think:
Is it important for a dominant to respect his/her submissive?



IronBear -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/19/2005 7:16:33 PM)

For myself, I will need to respect anyone I want to play with or closely associate with (in and out of the lifestyle).

Again for me to collar a trik, she will be respected by me or it wont happen.



mnottertail -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/19/2005 7:49:10 PM)

I think that the majority of men and women doms/dommes/tops yadda yadda yadda and subs/slaves/bottoms yadda(3) all would like to have respect (I think it fundamental to human nature). But I guess part of the point is we don't want respect as it was taught in gradeschool type of thing.


Ron



fastlane -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/19/2005 8:32:23 PM)

I respect everyone.



Except, Aretha Franklin.....Damn cum slut had to write that God Awful song about me!



EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/19/2005 9:49:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kyakitten

Just curious what people here think:
Is it important for a dominant to respect his/her submissive?

Liana

It's important that he respects the submissive AS the submissive in the relationship.

How the Owner treats me might be what many people consider "disrespectful" but he is respecting me as his slave and that's what's necessary.



MstrHellsFury -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 8:00:48 AM)

an outsiders view of what he or she may consider respect towards someone if of little or no value...what matters is what's the view from the dynamics within...this isn't going off topic ..to include anyone other than what you asked...dominants with their submissives...

Fury



sub4hire -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 8:06:00 AM)


For me it is important because if they don't respect me I don't respect them and trust will never be formed.



slavedesires -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 12:22:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrHellsFury

an outsiders view of what he or she may consider respect towards someone if of little or no value...what matters is what's the view from the dynamics within...this isn't going off topic ..to include anyone other than what you asked...dominants with their submissives...

Fury


Very nice perspective. i agree. What may appear as downright disrespect to another about our relationship may indeed be so profound another doesnt recognize it.

I have often thought to start a thread on what actually is R_E_S_P_E_C_T. You know everyone give their definition... i would wager to say it is differnt with EVERY individual.



RavenofPK -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 12:30:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kyakitten

Just curious what people here think:
Is it important for a dominant to respect his/her submissive?

Liana


No.

Value them? Perhaps.



DesertRat -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 2:05:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

I respect everyone.



Except, Aretha Franklin.....Damn cum slut had to write that God Awful song about me!


Yes, it is important for me to respect my slave. If I didn't, we wouldn't enter into a relationship in the first place.

I thought Otis Redding wrote "Respect". Pretty sure of that. Anyone?

Bob



stef -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 2:13:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesertRat

I thought Otis Redding wrote "Respect". Pretty sure of that. Anyone?

Yup, Otis wrote it.

~stef



fastlane -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 4:55:35 PM)

O.K. I stand corrected...buy I know Damn well Aretha sang it about me......Biatch

And Otis...take your skinny ass back down to the Dock on the Bay!



OscarHargraves -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 5:17:31 PM)

I agree with Iron Bear. It's important to ME that I respect my Sub both as a sub and as a person. I wouldn't want to play with someone I didn't respect.



domtimothy46176 -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/20/2005 5:24:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kyakitten

Just curious what people here think:
Is it important for a dominant to respect his/her submissive?

Liana


I feel that for me, it's absolutely essential that I respect anyone serving me for who and what they are, as a human being, as a servitor and as a member of my household.
If I allow myself to lose sight of a servan't humanity, I can't maintain the neccessary empathy required to interact with her on a personal level.
If I lose sight of the fact they she is here because of her desire to seve me, I will fail to hold her to meaningful standards and she will feel that she is failing.
If I don't treat her as a member of the household, she will be alienated from me and I will feel that I am failing.
YMMV
Timothy



pinkpleasures -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/22/2005 10:12:57 PM)

quote:

Just curious what people here think:
Is it important for a dominant to respect his/her submissive?

Liana


i wouldn't have dinner with a Man who had not shown me respect, never mind being His. Mutual respect does not preclude domination; for me it would have to be a cornerstone.

pinkpleasures



KnightofMists -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/22/2005 10:43:13 PM)

Respect within my relationships with my slaves is a very fundamental part for constructive and positive growth. However, outside of those relationships... respect is not a given or neccessarily required... sometimes it is just common courtesy.



girl4you2 -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/23/2005 1:21:25 AM)

yes, it was otis redding who wrote the song, but it was aretha who made it to the top hit level.



pinkpleasures -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/23/2005 5:16:15 AM)

quote:

Respect within my relationships with my slaves is a very fundamental part for constructive and positive growth. However, outside of those relationships... respect is not a given or neccessarily required... sometimes it is just common courtesy.

KnightofMists


i agree Sir, since it is impossible to know strangers well enough to give respect. Courtesy is the coin of the realm for dealings with the public.

pinkpleasures



EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/23/2005 6:24:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pinkpleasure
i agree Sir, since it is impossible to know strangers well enough to give respect. Courtesy is the coin of the realm for dealings with the public.


This might be a distinct difference in perspective here. Giving respect to strangers has NOTHING to do with THEM, it's about ME, how I feel its appropriate to interact with other people and holding to my own standards of respectful behavior.

For example, a dom brings a new person into his house. The slave has no idea who this guy is, but she gives him respect because the dom deems him good enough to be in the house. Has nothing to do with the guy, but the standards to which the sub holds.

It also might be why so many people get upset and annoyed on collarme when others aren't acting as a specific person wants them to act. I base my behavior on my own standards and the standards I've accepted, not how others choose to behave.



domtimothy46176 -> RE: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (8/23/2005 6:04:22 PM)

You make a great point here, Emerald, and I think I finally see your perspective, but it still doesn't lessen my dissatisfaction with those who don't reply to e-mail, lol.
Timothy



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