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OldBastardly1 -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 3:10:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie


This was the nicest way I have ever seen this put.  Well done, laurell.  I get tired of all the disparaging remarks made, as though someone without this ability must somehow be abolished from the earth, lol.  Typically, calling someone a "doormat" is way of insulting them for not meeting someone else's standards.

I also agree with LA.  There are times I have functioned as a doormat, as part of my service to to my Master - both metaphorically and literally (although he prefers a foot rest, he said).  I am happy being anything for him, so when he wants me to shut up and do something without thought, regardless of what I feel, I do so.  As I've said before, slap a daisy on my ass and let me say Welcome!

Doormat does not inherently mean something bad, in my opinion.  It might be unhealthy.  It might also be the healthiest thing for a person at that time.





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DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 3:14:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tootsiepop

DarkDaddyZ...

If one chooses to back down to avoid an arguement or to resort to name calling (such as the second poster here did to me in an email) would that consitute a doormat?

I don't know the situation so I can't speak on that situation.  But if someone is in relationship where they HAVE to back down or are in a non consensual situation and are being verbally or mentality or especially physically abused they shouldn't be in that relationship.  If they chose to stay in that relationship for other reasons or do not have positive self esteem then they are allowing theirselves to be a doormat. It is up to them to get the resources to not be a doormat IF that is what they want.

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If NOT taking someone to task for their actions because you know you are talking to a brick wall constitute a doormat?

Again I'm not really sure of the situation but if they there is a brick wall issue and problems in the relationship where both parties or one party isn't happy and there isn't communication then I would think there are problems.  While we all have problems, if there are situations that you don't talk about no matter how uncomfortable they are (and I've been in uncomfortable situations too) then it could be or could leave to a doormat relationship.

Z-




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 3:31:20 PM)

doormat - mindless drone who enjoys being stepped on repeatedly 




ownedgirlie -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 3:57:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OldBastardly1

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie


This was the nicest way I have ever seen this put.  Well done, laurell.  I get tired of all the disparaging remarks made, as though someone without this ability must somehow be abolished from the earth, lol.  Typically, calling someone a "doormat" is way of insulting them for not meeting someone else's standards.

I also agree with LA.  There are times I have functioned as a doormat, as part of my service to to my Master - both metaphorically and literally (although he prefers a foot rest, he said).  I am happy being anything for him, so when he wants me to shut up and do something without thought, regardless of what I feel, I do so.  As I've said before, slap a daisy on my ass and let me say Welcome!

Doormat does not inherently mean something bad, in my opinion.  It might be unhealthy.  It might also be the healthiest thing for a person at that time.





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Um...that was funny?  It wasn't meant to be but hey if you got a laugh over it, yay to you!

Oh, unless it was the daisy comment. [8D]




DesFIP -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 4:44:41 PM)

Cynical definition: a doormat is someone who will do things I won't.
Corollary: a princess or wannabe is someone who won't do things I will.

Real one: someone who allows others to treat them in an unhealthy manner for them.




OldBastardly1 -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 6:34:14 PM)

Actually, I didn't think the daisy thing was funny.




mnottertail -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 7:04:59 PM)

any womans profile that starts out ---- if you are looking for a doormat---or any variation of same; is one...

Ron




lauren0221 -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 8:18:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

any womans profile that starts out ---- if you are looking for a doormat---or any variation of same; is one...

Ron


Running off to revise profile now:)




Knightenslaves -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 9:48:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tootsiepop

Could You please tell me Your definitions of 'doormat'?

Thank You,

~tootsiepop

Added: What exactly are the actions one does that defines them as such? Not just 'walked over'... but in what way? W/we all get walked over.


Someone who out of being naive, fearful or any multitude of reasons allows those in a Dominant mindset or action set to harm them in either a physical, emotional or mental way.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/24/2007 11:01:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OldBastardly1

Actually, I didn't think the daisy thing was funny.


Aww, too bad.  I made myself laugh when I came up with that one. 

Then again, I'm a dork like that.




juliaoceania -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/25/2007 10:31:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Cynical definition: a doormat is someone who will do things I won't.
Corollary: a princess or wannabe is someone who won't do things I will.

Real one: someone who allows others to treat them in an unhealthy manner for them.


I loved this celeste, and it is so true. It is a subjective thing.




DesFIP -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/25/2007 12:25:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tootsiepop

DarkDaddyZ...

If one chooses to back down to avoid an arguement or to resort to name calling (such as the second poster here did to me in an email) would that consitute a doormat?

If NOT taking someone to task for their actions because you know you are talking to a brick wall constitute a doormat?

Thanks,

~t


Nope, you aren't by that a doormat. But by referring to emails which you could be coloring or making up, and referring to pms on the board you do show yourself to be passive aggressive.

Which, fyi, is not a good thing.




Evility -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 4:14:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tootsiepop
Could You please tell me Your definitions of 'doormat'?


My definition of a doormat in a BDSM context is:

doormat: noun:  A name that submissive A uses to refer to submissive B when submissive B will do things that submissive A refuses to do.






girlygurl -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 4:32:56 PM)

Of course we'll all have different views of what a doormat is...... here's mine:

A doormat is one that does not express pleasure or displeasure..... this person may chose to be a doormat, but non the less, their thoughts/feelings are not an issue... if I were being literal, a doormat is what we use to wipe our feet, so then, it's an object we use and discard once it's dirty and unsightly. 

IMO "if" I were treated as a doormat (and accepting the treatment) then I'd have very low self esteem. 

PLEASE don't interpret my statement as a demeaning comment... that's not what I was after.  I'm talking about me personally, that's all.  [:)]

 
girly




girlygurl -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 4:40:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Evility

doormat: noun:  A name that submissive A uses to refer to submissive B when submissive B will do things that submissive A refuses to do.


Just submissives huh?  [:D]

girly




AquaticSub -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 4:46:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tootsiepop

I'm sorry but this is directed to Master's, Mistresses, Dominants, Domme's... or did I get the heading wrong?

Thanks...

I was chastized by the previous poster for wanting to direct this question to Dominant's... for it is Their definitions I am interested in. Which is why I posted in 'ASK A MASTER' and not in 'ASK A SUBMISSIVE'... if this offends, so sorry.


As the moderators have stated, anyone can post anywhere. If these rules are unsuitable to you, there are more strict forums elsewhere. As it happens, I frequently post here as I feel that that more knowledge is gained from a variety of answers and because I have my owner's permission to speak for him when I know his mind. If that offends you... well I really don't care.




girlygurl -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 4:53:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

As the moderators have stated, anyone can post anywhere. If these rules are unsuitable to you, there are more strict forums elsewhere. As it happens, I frequently post here as I feel that that more knowledge is gained from a variety of answers and because I have my owner's permission to speak for him when I know his mind. If that offends you... well I really don't care.


AquaticSub you rock!

girly




goodgirl08 -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 7:53:39 PM)

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Real one: someone who allows others to treat them in an unhealthy manner for them.


Yeah...bingo




IdiotMale -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 7:56:07 PM)

A doormat is a good slave.




TheScrivener -> RE: Definition of Doormat? (12/26/2007 8:18:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I am happy being anything for him, so when he wants me to shut up and do something without thought, regardless of what I feel, I do so. 



I realize this is simply a way of showing your devotion to your Dominant, but this is the kind of mindset that scares me.  Loyalty and submission are wonderful, but you should always be mindful of how you feel.  It doesn't have to come out, and it doesn't mean you have to back talk, but still.  I worry about submissives when they say something like that.

Simply my opinion on the matter.  I imagine it works quite fine in your relationship, yet, I do hope that other submissives don't emulate the same ideal.

Submissives should be loyal, not mindless.

I personally find doormats to be rather boring.  Nice for cleaning mud off of my shoes though.




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