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Level -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:25:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist And oft times they are just role playing a Dom to get laid-and the woman figures it out.. That certainly does happen sometimes.

IrishMist -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:25:19 PM)
You are quite welcome Level J As a lead in, I am going to use what xiam said here *I heard someone say once, "I want a man who would be capable of killing me but would never actually follow through with it..." Food for thought. :)* Probably not the food for thought you were thinking when you wrote this; but it’s pretty close to what is on my mind when I say that I am attracted to a man who has an aura of violence. I tend to be a violent person; and there are those who are the same way, yet, manage to keep a strong hold on themselves. You can feel that violence just simmering under the surface. For some reason, I am able to connect with those kind; they give me an outlet that I can use to release on…and in return, when they let go, I get my pain cravings filled. At the same time though, the one thing that I have learned from those who are like this; is how to control MYSELF so that I don’t fly off the handle at a moments notice. It balances itself out for me in a good way.

Leatherist -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:28:47 PM)
And just to cut the quotes down to mod 11 won't have yet another hissy at me- a lot of "dominants" online are just horse's asses who read a few trite websites,then parrot it back to impress women they will probably never touch. And the gullible ones eat it up in droves. I'm not impressed-if you have never has flesh under your hand-and in your bonds-you aren't. It's pretty much the difference between playing "fighter ace" on a server-or flying a mission in an actual airforce-there IS no comparison.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:31:09 PM)
Violent people aren’t attractive, they have the same qualities as spoilt children. That is all I’m saying because the idea that being a violent person is something to respect and admire, I find so distasteful to even debate. Bad boy image? It makes me feel foolish to have been brought up to care and respect for other people when it's obvious we aren’t the types women want. [:D] I don’t want to be drawn into this debate as I've said all I'm going to, thanks.

Leatherist -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:33:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 Violent people aren’t attractive, they have the same qualities as spoilt children. That is all I’m saying because the idea that being a violent person is something to respect and admire, I find so distasteful to even debate. Bad boy image? It makes me feel foolish to have been brought up to care and respect for other people when it's obvious we aren’t the types women want. [:D] I don’t want to be drawn into this debate as I've said all I'm going to, thanks. It's not about being one or the other that attracts. It's the dichotomy of being both.

Level -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:33:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishMist You are quite welcome Level J As a lead in, I am going to use what xiam said here *I heard someone say once, "I want a man who would be capable of killing me but would never actually follow through with it..." Food for thought. :)* Probably not the food for thought you were thinking when you wrote this; but it’s pretty close to what is on my mind when I say that I am attracted to a man who has an aura of violence. I tend to be a violent person; and there are those who are the same way, yet, manage to keep a strong hold on themselves. You can feel that violence just simmering under the surface. For some reason, I am able to connect with those kind; they give me an outlet that I can use to release on…and in return, when they let go, I get my pain cravings filled. At the same time though, the one thing that I have learned from those who are like this; is how to control MYSELF so that I don’t fly off the handle at a moments notice. It balances itself out for me in a good way. Ever worry about it going to far, though? Or is the payoff worth the risk? (if you see it as a risk)

Level -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:38:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist And just to cut the quotes down to mod 11 won't have yet another hissy at me- a lot of "dominants" online are just horse's asses who read a few trite websites,then parrot it back to impress women they will probably never touch. And the gullible ones eat it up in droves. I'm not impressed-if you have never has flesh under your hand-and in your bonds-you aren't. It's pretty much the difference between playing "fighter ace" on a server-or flying a mission in an actual airforce-there IS no comparison. Are these "online dominants" muddying the waters of BDSM, then?

juliaoceania -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:38:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist And just to cut the quotes down to mod 11 won't have yet another hissy at me- a lot of "dominants" online are just horse's asses who read a few trite websites,then parrot it back to impress women they will probably never touch. And the gullible ones eat it up in droves. I'm not impressed-if you have never has flesh under your hand-and in your bonds-you aren't. It's pretty much the difference between playing "fighter ace" on a server-or flying a mission in an actual airforce-there IS no comparison. Not all dominants are into the S and M thing.... not all submissives want that either. I think you equate power exchange with S&M, they are not the same thing necessarily, although some people combine them

Leatherist -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:39:59 PM)
Something else to consider. Very few Sadists I personally know are emotionally out of control. They actually tend to be very cold and calculating in going for effect-often running scenarios in mind weeks ahead of time. That is seldom exactly the way it plays out when they actually get there-it's going to be greatly affected by the reactions of the bottom-and there will be a great deal of improvisation. I LIKE doing bdsm and bondage,and horrible and humiliating things-that I know someone either loves-or has a love hate thing going on with them. It's the instigation and invitation to struggle that turns me on. Forcing her to let go of the princess image, and become some sort of sordid animal-with no way to deny it. It takes a lot of time,thought and practice to become a well rounded sadist-and I doubt that any of us would go through it if the pay off was not worth the bother.

Leatherist -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:41:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist And just to cut the quotes down to mod 11 won't have yet another hissy at me- a lot of "dominants" online are just horse's asses who read a few trite websites,then parrot it back to impress women they will probably never touch. And the gullible ones eat it up in droves. I'm not impressed-if you have never has flesh under your hand-and in your bonds-you aren't. It's pretty much the difference between playing "fighter ace" on a server-or flying a mission in an actual airforce-there IS no comparison. Not all dominants are into the S and M thing.... not all submissives want that either. I think you equate power exchange with S&M, they are not the same thing necessarily, although some people combine them I'm talking about sadism now-I don't want to discuss this further with you.

kitttty -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:47:07 PM)
What is an aura of violence? I would not say mine has one and I am almost never attracted to bad boy types, but Master has an arsenal that could quell Basra and a license to carry concealed. He likes to shoot guns, watch violent movies on the rare occasion that he watches any.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:49:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist It's not about being one or the other that attracts. It's the dichotomy of being both. You can’t be both you are either one or the other in my experience. I was never one of those kids that pulled legs off of insects but I know someone that was and I know where he is now. Some things are so basic to who a person is and they can never change in the ways you’d like them to. I think a lot of people kid themselves that they can be some kind of special influence over someone to make them into something special, I wish that were true. quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 I don’t want to be drawn into this debate as I've said all I'm going to, thanks. [;)] It was just me being preachey, I have no interest in this topic.

juliaoceania -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:49:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist And just to cut the quotes down to mod 11 won't have yet another hissy at me- a lot of "dominants" online are just horse's asses who read a few trite websites,then parrot it back to impress women they will probably never touch. And the gullible ones eat it up in droves. I'm not impressed-if you have never has flesh under your hand-and in your bonds-you aren't. It's pretty much the difference between playing "fighter ace" on a server-or flying a mission in an actual airforce-there IS no comparison. Not all dominants are into the S and M thing.... not all submissives want that either. I think you equate power exchange with S&M, they are not the same thing necessarily, although some people combine them I'm talking about sadism now-I don't want to discuss this further with you. Then don't respond to me, pretty simple... You make a lot of generalizations is all.

BitaTruble -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:52:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist It's the instigation and invitation to struggle that turns me on. Forcing her to let go of the princess image, and become some sort of sordid animal-with no way to deny it. Very well said, the whole post - just wanted to make a comment on this part of it. Often it goes beyond taking someone to a place where they can't deny the animal into the place where they actually embrace it and desire it and at times, exhibit behavior that will draw out the animal in their counter part for the specific purpose of being able to get into their own animal skin just so that skin will be ripped to shreds by a bigger, more vicious predator. Okay, I need to quit posting to this thread because it's getting too warm in here. Celeste

juliaoceania -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:53:46 PM)
quote: You can’t be both you are either one or the other in my experience. I was never one of those kids that pulled legs off of insects but I know someone that was and I know where he is now. I think you have a point there, we all knew the types that would and could inflict suffering on those with less power than they if they thought that no one would be watching. And those types scare me and I feel nothing but revulsion for that sort. I knew a few growing up, and they seemed "normal" once we were grown... and yet part of me wondered about them, you know, that part that liked to pull the wings off flies.

lauren0221 -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:54:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 You can’t be both you are either one or the other in my experience. I was never one of those kids that pulled legs off of insects but I know someone that was and I know where he is now. Some things are so basic to who a person is and they can never change in the ways you’d like them to. I think a lot of people kid themselves that they can be some kind of special influence over someone to make them into something special, I wish that were true. I think you can be both, I am very attracted to a controlled aura of violence. Someone who has the capacity, but is rational in its use. Out of control violence is a huge turn off for me. Add control and rational thinking to the mix, and it is one of my biggest turn ons. P.S. I see pulling legs off insects as someone weak picking on something even weaker. I don't personally consider that to have anything to do with what we are discussing here.

juliaoceania -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:56:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: Leatherist It's the instigation and invitation to struggle that turns me on. Forcing her to let go of the princess image, and become some sort of sordid animal-with no way to deny it. Very well said, the whole post - just wanted to make a comment on this part of it. Often it goes beyond taking someone to a place where they can't deny the animal into the place where they actually embrace it and desire it and at times, exhibit behavior that will draw out the animal in their counter part for the specific purpose of being able to get into their own animal skin just so that skin will be ripped to shreds by a bigger, more vicious predator. Okay, I need to quit posting to this thread because it's getting too warm in here. Celeste In my experience animals are not really "violent" in that most do not hunt if they are not hungry and there seems to be no "joy" in harming things they cannot eat. I do not think of "violence" as anything but a human trait.... perhaps that is what separates us from the animals rather than being "civilized"?

Level -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:56:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble and at times, exhibit behavior that will draw out the animal in their counter part for the specific purpose of being able to get into their own animal skin just so that skin will be ripped to shreds by a bigger, more vicious predator. Now, you know what some will call that behaviour...... [:D]

Level -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:59:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lauren0221 I am very attracted to a controlled aura of violence. Someone who has the capacity, but is rational in its use. Out of control violence is a huge turn off for me. Add control and rational thinking to the mix, and it is one of my biggest turn ons. Does that attraction soley manifest itself in BDSM, or in vanilla situations?

Leatherist -> RE: Aura of violence (12/25/2007 3:59:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lauren0221 quote: ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3 You can’t be both you are either one or the other in my experience. I was never one of those kids that pulled legs off of insects but I know someone that was and I know where he is now. Some things are so basic to who a person is and they can never change in the ways you’d like them to. I think a lot of people kid themselves that they can be some kind of special influence over someone to make them into something special, I wish that were true. I think you can be both, I am very attracted to a controlled aura of violence. Someone who has the capacity, but is rational in its use. Out of control violence is a huge turn off for me. Add control and rational thinking to the mix, and it is one of my biggest turn ons. Key difference. If you are out of touch with a thing-it can control you-or cause you to lose control. Denial and avoidance is usually what happens to the out of control..it eats them. I think that most Sadists who are competent embrace this in themselves. You get a handle on it, and you can use it like a tool.

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