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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/26/2007 5:26:43 PM

julietsierra

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Yet I don't wear a cape and I don't want to be put up on a pedestal.

ok...so.. no cape...

but...

what about tights? Hmm? Inquiring minds want to know...

what about the tights?

juliet

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled serious discussion... sorry... but when I read "cape" the first thing that came to mind were "tights.")

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/26/2007 5:30:34 PM

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Tights have no secrets-perv.

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/26/2007 5:31:56 PM

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Yet I don't wear a cape and I don't want to be put up on a pedestal.

ok...so.. no cape...

but...

what about tights? Hmm? Inquiring minds want to know...

what about the tights?

juliet

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled serious discussion... sorry... but when I read "cape" the first thing that came to mind were "tights.")

Seriously why would anyone want to see my fat ass in tights!

but for a good cause, I'm down for whatever!

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/26/2007 5:32:23 PM

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Tights have no secrets-perv.

hahahahahahahaha..... I KNOW!!!

(lovely idea that is!)

Wait a sec... did you just call me a perv?!?!

I'll have you know I represent that idea!!

err... resent.. yea... resent.. that's what I meant to say...I think.
maybe not though.

juliet

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/26/2007 8:48:22 PM

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lol...I always find any discussion of capes and tights funny.

But seriously, a cool thread and one thing I thought I would throw into the mix. I agree that its dangerous to get caught up in seeking (or desperately wanting) the approval of a third party...or the bdsm "scene" in general...however you would define it. But I do think that like most things, this attitude taken to an extreme is as dangerous as the negative it is trying to counteract. Personally I like to listen to and consider a lot of different opinions and views, but I weigh them very differently depending on how much I respect the person and what I believe are their "qualifications." Just because someone has access to the internet and posts something definitely doesn't make them (or me for that matter) any kind of expert but that doesn't mean they have nothing to say worth letting rattle around in my brain for a minute or two. I think we all have to be our own people and make our own decisions and be responsible for them. But, I don't think thats the same thing as being an island unto yourself kind of a deal where you exist in a vaccum especially if you are talking about issues of safety or health etc. Just my random thoughts on an interesting thread.

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/27/2007 12:22:05 AM

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I'd like to Thank everyone who took the time to post something here. I learned something new about myself that I need to work on changing.. that before reading this post I wasn't able to articulate.

See self Mastery.. always being aware of yourself and if you find something that you don't like about yourself be able and willingly to figure out how to fix it, then put one foot infront of the other and make the change.

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/27/2007 10:27:11 AM

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Rudyard Kipling.

i love this poem

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/27/2007 11:42:32 AM

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It's a good question, and of course self-mastery is important in the vanilla world too. The reason why (some) BDSM people stress self-mastery that D's makes themselves responsible for s's in a way that vanillas rarely match in their world, and the thought is that D's can't be capable of mastering s's unless they've mastered themselves first.

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What does it mean to "Master" one's self? How is this different from the normal self-control a vanilla person is expected to have?

In many posts, I see references to "Mastering [yourself]". I have to admit, it confuses me. I mean, of course, you should be in control of yourself to be an effective leader, but.. shouldn't everyone be in control of themselves? Isn't this just.. something most people do..? Or is there something more to it when people talk about it like this?

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/27/2007 12:42:50 PM

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Mastering yourself basically means being in control of yourself.

Yes and no.......
the term 'being in control' so often gets thiought of as holding back, being in check, stopping oneself....I think of being in control much more as 'being sorted', being knowledgeable, being 'wised-up'....in bdsm terms I think it means the capacity to 'want' rather than to 'need' as no-one else either in the bdsm world or the vanilla world can really satisfy our needs....only we can do that, as in satidfy our needs when we are hungry or cold or needing emotional sustenance.
Therefore mastering oneself would be taking those steps to ensure that we do all that we can to bring ourselves into good health annd well being in order to relate to another...
sermon over and I'll get down off the soap box back onto my knees lol.............

lol, dont get on your knees on My account. Anyway, what you said is interesting, you have a point, I think you're right actually. I just interpreted the question a cirtain way. :).

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RE: What is "Mastering Yourself"? - 12/27/2007 12:46:19 PM

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What does it mean to "Master" one's self? How is this different from the normal self-control a vanilla person is expected to have?

In a word - balance

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