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RE: Reading the comments on Anti-Lifestyles Media Campa... - 12/26/2007 7:18:00 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		Yes we do have to put up with this crap, because freedom of speech applies equally to ideas that you may not agree with. It is funny how so many who say they believe in freedom of speech forget this fact.
I seriously doubt that this publication will bring about any downfall or curbing of our lifestyle. Nobody even knows they exist! 


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RE: Reading the comments on Anti-Lifestyles Media Campa... - 12/26/2007 8:07:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hasbeenfool

Most of those responding have not bothered in addressing the issues raised in the first place, chosing instead to attack and change the subject.

I have posted responses to the early comments which many responders appear to have not read in their eagerness to prove their prowess in spitting out canned comments and messages.

Finally it appears a few of you out there are blind automaton supporters of media, any media, apparently under the illusion that any media group is Untouchable, possibly from all the "positive" images that shows like Jerry Springer, Oprah and a few others have done in "normalizing" BDSM as something as casual as bread and butter.

Thanks though to everyone who took the time to punch their keyboard.  Oh and I am sure this publication is nothing of note, trouble is I NEVER had heard of it until now, possibly indicating they are starting to make inroads into the visible spectrum of public consumption.

Don't kick me if I have been a fool, I thought it was my future that I had slipped from my hand.


If you try to send a rock with a message attached to it, people are going to react to the rock that smacked them in the head and not the message attached.  That's how people are.

However, I don't actually care whether there are anti-lifestyle groups out there.  There are anti everything groups out there, the KKK still exists as do many other groups that exist for the shear purpose of promoting hatred and miseducation on almost every subject, why would the lifestyle be any different?  Freedom of speech doesn't extend as far as coming on an alternate lifestyle board and insulting people of alternate lifestyles and expecting to hide behind it when those react.  We're freaks, not stupid freaks .  How silly can one get?  Then again, I'm bisexual so, I guess I'm just a "faggot" anyway.

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RE: Reading the comments on Anti-Lifestyles Media Campa... - 12/26/2007 8:43:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am suprised that you did not get flamed more for using the word faggot...

Even if you are making an intelegent arguement, doing so with stupid language makes it sound stupid.

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RE: Reading the comments on Anti-Lifestyles Media Campa... - 12/26/2007 9:49:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		People laways have things to say about people they don't understand,this is hardly  new.

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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 9:55:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		i just went to the OP's link for that website and it's a car magazine? what kind of sick and twisted fetish are you into?!?!  i'm all for loving different things but i draw the line at sex with a car.

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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 10:39:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hisgirlonly

i just went to the OP's link for that website and it's a car magazine? what kind of sick and twisted fetish are you into?!?!  i'm all for loving different things but i draw the line at sex with a car.

--Hisgirl


LOL yeah....and his name....either a lunatic or a spoof.  If it's a spoof he got a few of us, but using the terminology he did still makes him worthy of his "fool" title.

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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 10:41:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hisgirlonly

i just went to the OP's link for that website and it's a car magazine? what kind of sick and twisted fetish are you into?!?!  i'm all for loving different things but i draw the line at sex with a car.

--Hisgirl


That has got to chafe...

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Intolerant Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 10:56:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Am I asking others to be intolerant?

Last time I checked I was part of a community, BDSM, meaning I already made some choices and I have an affiliation.  If someone seems to be attacking my community, so where the heck is my sense of community?  Who cares if I am spineless and bend like the wind.  Why should I stand for any principle or value?  I just badger whoever into submission and silence.  It's not possible that my own lifestyle modus operandi is going to kill my lifestyle?

But obviously you can tell that's not me.  The vehemence and flaming attitude against someone in their community who is ticked off at media games is reminiscent of witch hunts.  But hey what the heck....over here in the BDSM community they tolerate anything...absolutely anything...otherwise I am not open-minded.

Finally I love the individuals who come up short against some of the remarks I made so they use the cop out knee-jerk response "so you calling me faggot?  after all I am bisexual".   Sweetums since when did faggot have any sexual connotations in the colloquial language you felt obliged on quoting dictionary references.  I guess you never heard any person around here calling a man "bitch" but it wasn't about a four-legged canine?

Let me call the Pope so he can tell me what Bitch means in Latin.  Better yet I should find the root bullshit meaning in Celtic.  I am such an original and deep into my own culture I just can't smell my own sauce when someone cuts a little cheese in front of me.

Oh and someone made the remark the publication was a car magazine....how cool...they just looked at the welcome page banner.  And I thought collarme was about photography and Mona Lisa-style photo lovers (that's what they got on the covers).

For those who are reading these threads and who are not part of the small band of Robin Hood's gang, the comments reek from a wolf pack knee-jerk response.   Or possibly all the responses are from one irate member who is busy logging in under different screen names and posting the chorus of tirades.

I'd like to respond in kind but really dude, get a grip, you should have something else in life to do beside spending so much time on these boards burning up your collective e-time.  You never went sailing before?  I mean wind sailing....sailing increases your e-time.

In case some readers are not keyed in to the reality of many forums like this, Collarme is free and you know how ethical and honest everything and everyone is in this world.  Really tough for one person to create a long string of profiles.  Some individuals feel they own the boards.  Heaven forbid someone posts anything that rubs them the wrong way.

I mean I wasn't born yesterday?

Somewhere, someone thought it was a clever idea.  How about we connect everyone and make a hydra, a snake with a billion heads, now they are thirsty for one member and this is the hazing?  I guess all of these heads put together have figured a way to build a pyramid of submission....only it wasn't a Las Vegas deck of cards?   Let's hope the Santa Ana winds don't blow my way.

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GEE it's a car website - Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 11:17:07 PM   
hasbeenfool


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RE: Intolerant Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 11:37:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		My apologies. You see, when I see signs saying "FAGGOTS BURN IN HELL" at gay pride parades, I tend to associate the word with homosexuality the way nigger is associated with being black. Thanks to your post I see the error of my ways. Clearly, the word has never been associated with homosexuality in any way.

Look, you've got the freedom of the speech to use the word faggot freely, loudly and proudly. They've got the same right to call us fucked up freaks who should be shot.

Who wants to give up their freedom first?

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RE: Intolerant Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/26/2007 11:41:45 PM   
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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 12:36:32 AM   
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I used "faggot" in its proper meaning, those who surmise deragotary must have been staring at themselves in the mirror when they typed this.


Or they have greater familiarity with the English language than others.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faggot

Take notes, in case there's a quiz next period.


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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 3:41:18 AM   
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RE: Intolerant Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 3:46:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hasbeenfool

Sweetums since when did faggot have any sexual connotations in the colloquial language you felt obliged on quoting dictionary references.  I guess you never heard any person around here calling a man "bitch" but it wasn't about a four-legged canine?

Since forever, you stupid bastard.  Give it up - you lost the moral high ground the moment you opened your mouth.


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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 8:00:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hasbeenfool

Those who just defended these guys came down on me for using an expression guaranteed to me by the First Ammendment. 


Ok, let me get this straight.... you assert your First Amendement rights to say what you like, even if it's perceived as intolerant... at the same time you're soliciting support to prevent others from asserting their First Amendment rights because you perceive what they have to say as intolerant?
 
Screw the definitions of "faggot"... somebody give him the defintion of "hypocrite".
 
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RE: Intolerant Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 8:11:00 AM   
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But obviously you can tell that's not me.  The vehemence and flaming attitude against someone in their community who is ticked off at media games is reminiscent of witch hunts.  But hey what the heck....over here in the BDSM community they tolerate anything...absolutely anything...otherwise I am not open-minded.

If you are speaking of us tolerating homosexuality and bisexuality... that isn't tolerating "just anything" to me.

quote:

Finally I love the individuals who come up short against some of the remarks I made so they use the cop out knee-jerk response "so you calling me faggot?  after all I am bisexual".   Sweetums since when did faggot have any sexual connotations in the colloquial language you felt obliged on quoting dictionary references


Im not bisexual, so my dictionary references were to show you that there is no other connotation to that phrase than to compare someone that you think is a bad person (editors with the media) with being homosexual. It is like calling someone a "pussy", as if being a part of the female anatomy makes one somehow weak.

quote:

For those who are reading these threads and who are not part of the small band of Robin Hood's gang, the comments reek from a wolf pack knee-jerk response.   Or possibly all the responses are from one irate member who is busy logging in under different screen names and posting the chorus of tirades.

I'd like to respond in kind but really dude, get a grip, you should have something else in life to do beside spending so much time on these boards burning up your collective e-time.  You never went sailing before?  I mean wind sailing....sailing increases your e-time.

In case some readers are not keyed in to the reality of many forums like this, Collarme is free and you know how ethical and honest everything and everyone is in this world.  Really tough for one person to create a long string of profiles.  Some individuals feel they own the boards.  Heaven forbid someone posts anything that rubs them the wrong way.

I mean I wasn't born yesterday?




This is rather paranoid.

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RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 8:18:49 AM   
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  • A faggot is a kind of meatball, a traditional dish in the UK, especially the southwest of England, Wales, and the Black Country. It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork. ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot (food)


  • That's it - maybe he was calling them meatballs :)

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    RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 8:25:42 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

  • A faggot is a kind of meatball, a traditional dish in the UK, especially the southwest of England, Wales, and the Black Country. It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork. ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot (food)


  • That's it - maybe he was calling them meatballs :)

    I did consider that!

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    RE: Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/27/2007 5:11:31 PM   
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    I used "faggot" in its proper meaning


    How did a bundle of sticks used to light a fire create an anti-BDSM website? I'm confused.

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    Loud and Angry - Anti-Lifestyles Media Campaigners - 12/28/2007 1:02:04 PM   
    hasbeenfool


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    Status: offline     		Simply from the manner in which a "few" of you have responded tells me I was wayyyyyyyyy off on this subject.  Boy don't I ever learn from my mistakes?

    So of course I have copied and will email the editors of this GRRRRRRRRRRREAT publication all of your comments and we'll see what they have to say about it.

    Oh I forgot to point out the best of this, West Coast Midnight Run, these greeeeeeeeat media folks abbreviate their pubication as WCMR, as in Mr. WC, that's Water Closet or shit hole for those who never consulted a dictionary.

    So you can see even in the title of their publication they are taking a swipe at the Alternative Lifestyle.  Long Live BDSM if I have this kind of company to keep.


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