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521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/27/2007 4:02:21 PM

OrionTheWolf

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119802881397337777.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

"Officials at the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, or TIGTA, say they opened 521 investigations in fiscal 2007 "

Fair Tax may not be perfect, but it doesn't allow this.

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RE: 521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/27/2007 5:19:14 PM

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we needed more reasons other than their existence?

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RE: 521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/27/2007 8:19:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119802881397337777.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

"Officials at the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, or TIGTA, say they opened 521 investigations in fiscal 2007 "

Fair Tax may not be perfect, but it doesn't allow this.

I'll just quickly say that until I came to Collarme, I had rarely if ever seen a written argument-- from an average person--- in defense of such an ominous entity like the IRS.

There are far better and more efficient non-invasive mechanisms for collecting tax revenue, but the IRS sure comes in handy as a governmental instrument for intimidation and control.

A national sales tax {The Fair Tax}is far less invasive than what we have currently.

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RE: 521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/27/2007 10:58:03 PM

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Don't forget, the income tax is a temporary measure to pay down the war debt from the Spanish-American War.

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RE: 521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/27/2007 11:03:59 PM

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The only reason i need is that they want my MONEY!
If they want it that bad, let's meet one-on-one, High Noon. none of this "my mercenaries can beat up your mercenaries" bullshit.

Pry it from my cold dead hands, or go get a REAL job and earn your own, bitches.

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RE: 521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/28/2007 12:16:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119802881397337777.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

"Officials at the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, or TIGTA, say they opened 521 investigations in fiscal 2007 "

Fair Tax may not be perfect, but it doesn't allow this.

I'll just quickly say that until I came to Collarme, I had rarely if ever seen a written argument-- from an average person--- in defense of such an ominous entity like the IRS.

There are far better and more efficient non-invasive mechanisms for collecting tax revenue, but the IRS sure comes in handy as a governmental instrument for intimidation and control.

A national sales tax {The Fair Tax}is far less invasive than what we have currently.

- R

This is another reason I'm voting for Ron Paul, to get rid of the I.R.S.!
If that's the only thing he accomplishes in his presidency great!
A National sales tax is the way to go.
You're taxed on what you consume.
It's better for the environment, it's better for the average person, it encourages people to save money and it's far more efficient and better management than the monster we have now!
The wealthy would be taxed more because they consume more.
On the other side of the coin the congress needs to cut spending drastically in certain areas!
It's just too expensive trying to be an Empire!
Imperialism never works and a very small group of people and companies make tremendous profits from the Taxpayers for dubious programs with no end in site!
("Foreign Aid", Iraq,etc)

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RE: 521 More Reason to get rid of the IRS - 12/28/2007 12:34:46 PM

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--from WSJ report:

Curiosity may be a good trait for a tax collector. But some Internal Revenue Service workers are taking it too far.

Despite repeated warnings by IRS officials over many years, IRS employees still are getting nabbed for snooping through confidential taxpayer records without authorization. In some cases, IRS workers were curious about an ex-spouse or neighbor, but in at least one case, an employee was paid by an outsider for information that was used by identity thieves. According to interviews with Treasury officials and a new report, hundreds of IRS workers were disciplined in the year ended Sept. 30 for breaking the rules, and some have even faced prosecution.

Illegal browsing has long been a problem at the IRS, even after Congress enacted tough taxpayer-privacy legislation in the late 1990s. Government officials and lawmakers take the issue seriously since the confidentiality of taxpayer records is considered a bedrock principle of the U.S. tax system. Snooping has persisted even though IRS officials frequently warn workers in strong terms not to tap into the agency's computers to look at confidential taxpayer information without an official tax-administration purpose.

Is it any surprise? The Administration cares not at all about the Constituition, the past two presidential elections featured amazingly naked strategies from court proceedings to prevent people from voting to election officiials gleefully ripping up registrations from opposing parties.

Far too many in this floundering democrracy would prefer a one party system, forgetting all the very real reasons why that's dangerous, historically and today.

Not even getting into the capacity to think ahead long term......

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