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BigEyes -> Edge play...? (8/21/2005 7:06:34 PM)

Hello all! Not sure if this is the best forum, but nevermind.

Quick question about the definition of edgeplay. I have assumptions based on the connotations the phrase suggests, but don't actually know. What is classed as edgeplay? Is it all about pain/danger?

Thanks as usual!

Big Eyes



JohnWarren -> RE: Edge play...? (8/21/2005 7:31:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BigEyes

Hello all! Not sure if this is the best forum, but nevermind.

Quick question about the definition of edgeplay. I have assumptions based on the connotations the phrase suggests, but don't actually know. What is classed as edgeplay? Is it all about pain/danger?

Thanks as usual!

Big Eyes


I've heard that originally "edge play" meant play with edges/knives/sharps. Lately a new definition has appeared that takes the "edge" to mean skating close to a submissive's limits or to the concept of reasonable safety. Naturally, the first is harder to pin down as what is a hard limit for one, is the starting point of excitement for another.



perverseangelic -> RE: Edge play...? (8/21/2005 8:02:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

I've heard that originally "edge play" meant play with edges/knives/sharps.


THat's honestly what I thought it meant, too. Someone on the net told me otherwise a while ago, but I like that use, simply because it's descriptive.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Edge play...? (8/21/2005 8:11:28 PM)

You will find that almost every term or phrase will be defined differently & nearly everyone is prepared to defend their their own definition.

I am not saying asking questions is wrong & it won't get you anywhere. What I am saying is to gather information from more than one source & be able to formulate your own definitions of such & then be able to communicate your understandings to others.

I happen to agree with Mr. Warren on this one. Edge play to me was about the forms of play that involve a sharp or dull edge. As time went by, it has taken on the meaning of riskier types of interaction.

MstrssPassion



LASub4Real -> RE: Edge play...? (8/21/2005 10:35:50 PM)

I've always had it defined to me as actions that are "on the edge." A Synonymous term would be "extreme play." Usually this will include knife and needle play but may also describe a severe beating, breath control or watersports.



plantlady64 -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 7:44:45 AM)

Hello There,
To me edge play is when the power exchange between the two is at an extreme level. It's where it's either something very intense or dangerous is transpiring between the top(s) and bottom (s).
Some of my examples would be fisting, fire play, suspension bondage, heavy caning or whipping scenes, needle play, staple play, branding, breath play, blood play, and abduction/rape scenes. To me it's when things like that are transpiring between units of two or more people.
When you play at the edge of the mind fuck capacity of your sub overall to me that's edge play.
Sincerely,
sub suzanne



MrThorns -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 7:45:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LASub4Real

I've always had it defined to me as actions that are "on the edge." A Synonymous term would be "extreme play." Usually this will include knife and needle play but may also describe a severe beating, breath control or watersports.


This is exactly what I have known edgeplay to be. As extremes vary from person to person, there may be differences in what someone considers to be "edgy". Other things that some people may consider to be edgeplay:
Suspension
Forced bisexuality
Rape scenes
Fire play
Full contact body percussion
Fisting
Sounds
Butterfly boards
IVs

The list goes on and on...

~Thorns



krazysubbiekat -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 2:46:46 PM)

Okay, i have a very well rounded education about the different types of play *said with a small little shiver of excitement and a grin* i have to ask...what are butterfly boards please?



JohnWarren -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 2:53:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: krazysubbiekat

Okay, i have a very well rounded education about the different types of play *said with a small little shiver of excitement and a grin* i have to ask...what are butterfly boards please?


A butterfly board is generally a piece of soft wood with a hole in the middle. A guy's cock and balls are drawn through the hole and then the ball sack is stretched and pinned to the wood in the same way they display butterflies.

The female version has a rectangular hole and the labia rather than the balls are pinned.



sultryvoice -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 3:51:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: plantlady64

To me edge play is when the power exchange between the two is at an extreme level. It's where it's either something very intense or dangerous is transpiring between the top(s) and bottom (s).
Some of my examples would be fisting, fire play, suspension bondage, heavy caning or whipping scenes, needle play, staple play, branding, breath play, blood play, and abduction/rape scenes. To me it's when things like that are transpiring between units of two or more people.
When you play at the edge of the mind fuck capacity of your sub overall to me that's edge play.




This is what I and all I know equate as edge play. The more dangerous types of scenes. But as all things, it's open to interpretation. In this lifestyle, many things have multiple meanings and can mean different things to different people. I can see where playing with sharp items could mean "edge play".

Respectfully,
sultry



ProtagonistLily -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 6:25:57 PM)

Interesting conversation.

Initially, I was of the mind that edgeplay only referred to knives and other cutting type implements. But then, as most of us expressed, our personal definitions broadened to include those things which our particular group of associates found to be outside the 'norm'. Once I started to do fireplay, I was labled an edge-player. Ok, fine by me.

But with the lable of edgeplay, comes a double edged sword, no pun intended. For those of us who engage in certain activities that others catalog as 'edgy' but we consider a fun part of our sadosexual milleu, it becomes a way to set people apart. "So and So is a big edge player..." "Sir Blah-de-blah is very edgy..." The qualification of 'edgy' comes usually from outside a couple rather than from themselves.

As I was reading down the conversation, I saw several lists of activities that people considered edgeplay, and of course saw a bunch of things that Sir and I enjoy, and we don't consider ourselves edgeplayers persay.

So, I guess what I'm saying is, who really cares? If you are happy doing what you are doing, and if you do it in front of other people you do so within the confines of the rules of the venue, then by all means, have at it and have fun.

And if you are some poor sod who's running around classifying people as edgeplayers in a way to separate yourself from them or make yourself feel better about your kink practices, by all means, cut it out. This is a community about acceptance and commonality, not a place to be divisive.

Lily



Sasy -> RE: Edge play...? (8/22/2005 9:59:01 PM)

I believe edge play for many are things that can be considered dangerous with the slip of a hand, for me they are knives, needles, breath, plays sometimes emotional/mental play I think even imagined fears can go to far at times ( just my opinion tho )
quote:

ORIGINAL: BigEyes

Hello all! Not sure if this is the best forum, but nevermind.

Quick question about the definition of edgeplay. I have assumptions based on the connotations the phrase suggests, but don't actually know. What is classed as edgeplay? Is it all about pain/danger?

Thanks as usual!

Big Eyes




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Edge play...? (8/24/2005 4:24:24 PM)

I'd honestly never heard "edge play", referring to limits, at all. I've coined other reasonable terms for it, but never came across that one. I've never heard it in conjuction with knives, either (I've always called that "knife play"...uncreative). Thanks for giving me a quick education in terminology! [;)] It's always fun to learn something new.



BigEyes -> RE: Edge play...? (8/27/2005 4:42:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ProtagonistLily


So, I guess what I'm saying is, who really cares? If you are happy doing what you are doing, and if you do it in front of other people you do so within the confines of the rules of the venue, then by all means, have at it and have fun.

And if you are some poor sod who's running around classifying people as edgeplayers in a way to separate yourself from them or make yourself feel better about your kink practices, by all means, cut it out. This is a community about acceptance and commonality, not a place to be divisive.

Lily



I completely agree and I hope you haven't misunderstood me. I'm trying to learn the 'lingo' as it were, so that I'm not ignorant if others refer to something.

Big Eyes



mnottertail -> RE: Edge play...? (8/27/2005 5:06:19 PM)

edge play in this day and age is rather nebulous.

Remember, your edge may be my center, or a plane not even on the paper.

Ron



fastlane -> RE: Edge play...? (8/27/2005 7:56:15 PM)

Edge play was once considered to be sharp object play, hence, the edge of a knife or razor. Most recently in turned into what sub suzanne describes as pushing it to limits...extreme games, as she described.
In my opinion, it's blindfolding a sub, standing her on a cliff and saying, "how you like me now?"



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