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Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:05:34 AM   
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Always thinking of how to integrate kink into my existing life, I made a new-year's resolution to work out and, being a really bad loner, I immediately thought of posting an ad in craigslist for an obedient workout partner.

Before I do, and to benefit from your wisdom, I ask the community at large if this is a common theme (I haven't seen it but that's why I ask)? Have you had a sub workout partner where the bottom obeys any and all commands by the trainer?

Any suggestions as to workout D/s play ideas to flesh out this aspiration?
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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:08:45 AM   
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This sort of dynamic appeals to me.  I think if I had someone giving me orders that I would do well with a work out regimen, it would provide great motivation.  Even if you don't necessarily find a submissive partner, finding a workout partner in general is a good plan.  I had my best times at the gym when I had a friends there and we would hang out and talk (and yes, flirt!) while on the machines.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:11:53 AM   
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I would love that.

Unfortunately Fox has a job so while I could order him to be my workout buddy I decided that wasn't wise.

My greatest problem over the years has been people starting workouts with me (whether it was biking, mall walking, weights) and then after a few weeks finding excuses. I think a sub buddy whose standing order was to work out with me could help that but only if I took my responsibility to enforce that rule.

It was sort of be a circle there of motivation.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:13:15 AM   
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Can't believe I've never thought of this before. Might be fun to work out a little slave girl.  

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:20:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pompeii

Always thinking of how to integrate kink into my existing life, I made a new-year's resolution to work out and, being a really bad loner, I immediately thought of posting an ad in craigslist for an obedient workout partner.

Before I do, and to benefit from your wisdom, I ask the community at large if this is a common theme (I haven't seen it but that's why I ask)? Have you had a sub workout partner where the bottom obeys any and all commands by the trainer?

Any suggestions as to workout D/s play ideas to flesh out this aspiration?



Are you qualified to do this? I have seen many a trainer hurt their clients by pushing too hard. So how would you ensure that you didnt take an out of shape submiisive too far too soon and injure a muscleor tear something by giving them too much weight or pushing them aerobically? Would you have devices to moniter their heartrate? Would the sub be allowed to complain if something was too much? Just some fod for thought. The concept is a great one. One I would enjoy but you have to be extremely slow and conservative in your approach.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:20:59 AM   
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Personally i think you would be creating problems for yourself and causing the workouts to become a negative reinforcement for her and maybe even for yourself.  The motivation to become healthy by eating properly and working out has to come from within - it can't be "ordered" - a dom tried this with me once and i was miserable - EVEN THOUGH I WANTED THE HELP......sounds screwy but the pressure was enormous and it took away the joy of just having a D/s relationship. 

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:35:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

Personally i think you would be creating problems for yourself and causing the workouts to become a negative reinforcement for her and maybe even for yourself.  The motivation to become healthy by eating properly and working out has to come from within - it can't be "ordered" - a dom tried this with me once and i was miserable - EVEN THOUGH I WANTED THE HELP......sounds screwy but the pressure was enormous and it took away the joy of just having a D/s relationship. 


This is true.... I tried this with a dom - just reporting to him what I ate or how much exercise I did.  No matter what I did I felt like a loser - I wasn't good enough.  He was realy supportive and kind, but it just wrecked my self-esteem (and I LIKE working out).  So, unless it is a subby who enjoys the same type of workouts that you do, this could be really detrimental.  Body image can be very different for men versus women.  So can the different types of workouts.  Just matching pace while walking can be hard.

I once had a boyfriend who was an Olympic - trained athlete (and I'm an overweight girl who loves to dance).  We would go to the gym together - he would lift weights or swim while I went to spinning class or did yoga.  Our styles were very different, but because there was no pressure to work out TOGETHER , it was great.  I'd occasionally see him through the mirrors lifting and would appreciate his muscles.  He'd walk by the spinning room shaking his head because he didn't have the stamina for that kind of work out.  We ended up really appreciating each other and respecting each other's space.  After a good workout, we might go home and shower together or stay at the gym and have a shake and talk.  That was fun.  And as I recall, he particularly liked it when I showed him some of the yoga moves.  Those were fun nights. *winks.

My advice - be careful with this.  Body stuff can be a real sore spot for a lot of people.   

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:44:58 AM   
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It can be a two-edged sword, especially if you are hitting on some sensitive issues. I think as long as your partner does not feel you are doing this because there is something wrong with them, it can be beneficial.

From the s side of the equation, have had some limited experience with this because personal trainers can tend to have a bit of a sadistic side. They don't let you stop just because it hurts. I enjoy pushing further and harder than I would on my own, and yeah a litle pain is definitely an added bonus :)

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:54:17 AM   
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While it doesn't directly relate...

I've had a s/s that I assisted in a personal trainer respect. She needed someone to be accountable to, to stay on track, and I definitely enjoyed assisting her. While hardly a pro, I gave her reasonable - though challenging - goals and set rewards and punishments for her attaining or missing them. I'd have to say (and I think she would as well) that it worked out very well. In the first few months, she dropped 45+ lbs. and told me that she was very happy to be kept on the path.

She even enjoyed the though of me behind her as she worked the elliptical - using my belt on her to drive her harder.


As to the OP topic, I think it would be great to have one but I'd examine your goals and why you're doing what you're doing to ensure that both parties are heading where they want to be. If it's weight-loss, for example, you don't lose weight in the gym...you lose it in the kitchen. Get a plan in place before you hit it hard-and-heavy. In other words, don't work-out harder........work-out smarter.

Example: It's been measured that you can burn calories at a parabolic rate by changing what you work on (i.e. if you're hitting your arms/chest, move next to the legs and so on).


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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 7:21:37 AM   
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This is something I would like as well, Both Velvetears and Lusciuoslips19 make very good points as well, that you may need 2 people to spot you if the one isnt strong enough to pull your weights off. also some people make leaps and bounds while others struggle to make any gains at all so you would have to find the right person, I already have a great gym partner, he pushs me in cardio and I push him with the weights so it work out well, on another note with no offence ment I really hate it when anyone talks to me while Im working out except my budy, breaks my focus and honestly so do many of the gym rats I work out with so to add someone to the mix for other reasons may not be wise, unless you have a home gym  where it can be done  

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 7:29:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pompeii

Always thinking of how to integrate kink into my existing life, I made a new-year's resolution to work out and, being a really bad loner, I immediately thought of posting an ad in craigslist for an obedient workout partner.

Before I do, and to benefit from your wisdom, I ask the community at large if this is a common theme (I haven't seen it but that's why I ask)? Have you had a sub workout partner where the bottom obeys any and all commands by the trainer?

Any suggestions as to workout D/s play ideas to flesh out this aspiration?



My Daddy goes with me to the gym when I am with him. He has designed my workout, and that is only successful because he is extremely knowledgeable about physical fitness. If he wasn't, I would never have asked for his help because I know some myself about these things... but he knows far more than I do and I wanted to get into body building which I am not extremely knowledgeable about.

He is sadistic and has no trouble ordering me to push myself if he thinks it will end up with me being better off for it... he can push pretty hard, yet he hasn't ordered me to do anything harmful.

It works for us


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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 11:16:00 AM   
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quote:

Always thinking of how to integrate kink into my existing life, I made a new-year's resolution to work out and, being a really bad loner, I immediately thought of posting an ad in craigslist for an obedient workout partner.


I like the way you think. 

There is something magic in being accountable to another person.  I know someone who cannot lose weight alone but can on one of the national programs.  She keeps her diet because she is going to be weighed and does not want to be embarrassed by gaining weight. 

Another friend of mine was on a diet that required her to visit this older doctor each week or two.  If she had not followed the diet and lost weight, he would scold her.  That was the whole program and believe it or now it worked well.  (I told her that I would be happy to scold her for free but she turned me down.)

So I think this could "work out" in that you will enjoy the obedience and the sub will get into better shape and both of you will be more likely to continue the program.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 12:07:41 PM   
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Like others in the thread, I think it's great just to get a workout partner for yourself and go at it.  If you have a sub to work out with you, all well and good.  I don't know that I would start making workouts kinky or integrating them into my lifestyle.  For me, workouts are my lifestyle because I am a trainer.  I wouldn't integrate kink into my gym time.  My Man has started in the gym and we work out together - him doing his thing and me doing mine - but in the same room.  My ex-Master was TKD BB3/instructor and I cross-trained with him.  I went into his classroom and helped the students with some sport specific stuff as well.  He got off on the headspace of having his sub "Topping" him and his students, I got off on watching all the bodies moving in harmony. 

Now, does me being the submissive one yet also the trainer make me a switch?  Hardly.  And yes, lauren0221 had it right...we do have a sadistic streak in us...lol.  We love to make people work hard and sweat and hurt in a good way.  We love to get people into the "zone" where the burn stops and the endorphins kick in and they fly...akin to subspace but different.  And like Rushemery says, working out can be like a scene sort of.  You get into your head and just work...talking through it can be irritating.

Sorry OP, started rambling.  Find your workout partner, find your sub, if the two are the same person - great.  You'll be happy either way.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 3:26:22 PM   
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i have tried the dynamic with a female Dominant friend....and the first day she didn't feel like working out, i just rolled over and said ok because i don't argue with her...that is about the biggest problem we had...well, and the only one with the work outs, because after that, they didn't start back up again...

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 3:37:44 PM   
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hehe, this sounds like a really good idea! i love most forms of exercise, with the exception of running. i wouldn't mind having a dom around to make sure that I don't slack when i'm on the treadmill - a good smack on the ass with a crop every time i drop below a certain speed would certainly provide some fun motivation

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 4:49:09 PM   
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As long as you can accept them kicking your ass for motivation and improvement when necessary, sure.  My partner and I found it very helpful to be workout partners- sometimes one of needs the oomph and sometimes it's the others and simply being directly accountable to SOMEONE can make a difference.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:27:27 PM   
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Last summer, I decided to join a gym (my youngest um was starting middle school and I now had an hour between my school and her school getting out).  My regular workouts inspired Master to get back to the gym regularly. He thinks it very hot that I workout - aside from the positive changes in my body. We belong to different gyms, but over Thanksgiving were able to workout together several times. He is extremely knowledgable about training and I have my chiropractic education, but have never worked out, so we had an interesting time of it. I can tell you all the names and actions of the muscles and He knows every which way to tone and build them. He has helped me move on when I reach a plateau and designed a routine for me.
 
I loved having Him push me to do better and I loved watching Him with the weights. I was able to spot Him because spotting is usually just lifting the bit He cannot.
 
Although we don't get to be workout partners, just knowing I will be discussing what I did that day with Him keeps me going- and going to the gym when all I want to do is go home and be lazy.
 
So it works for us.

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 6:50:21 PM   
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quote:

Are you qualified to do this? I have seen many a trainer hurt their clients by pushing too hard. So how would you ensure that you didnt take an out of shape submiisive too far too soon and injure a muscleor tear something by giving them too much weight or pushing them aerobically? Would you have devices to moniter their heartrate? Would the sub be allowed to complain if something was too much? Just some fod for thought. The concept is a great one. One I would enjoy but you have to be extremely slow and conservative in your approach.


When my Daddy trains me he allows me to stop at any time that my body gives me a signal that it is going to far. I have on more than one occasion told him a certain exercise threatened to hurt me in a bad way... but he is not shy about ordering reps of what he knows my body can handle.

It helps that I am very much in tune with my own body and can tell him when something does not feel right, as opposed to just being exhausting. It also helps that most modern gyms have cardio machines that will measure heart rate so that one can keep tabs on what they want to accomplish on a treadmill for example.
This thread is a wonderful one to bring in the new year with


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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/30/2007 11:23:02 PM   
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quote:

Sorry OP, started rambling. Find your workout partner, find your sub, if the two are the same person - great. You'll be happy either way.


There's just that quaint je-ne-sais-quoi idea revolving around breathlessly whipping a willing lass into shape like the Romans of yore, and having her perform pole situps, "401... 402 ... 403...'cmon ... only 97 more t'go" ...  and spanking her ass with a soft crop when she falters ... :)

Seriously, it would be fun to have a workout partner who wants to combine the improvment of her conditioning with obedience training. I have one respondant to my ad so far ... so it looks like I'll get the chance to try it out and report (anonymously) the results over time ...

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RE: Have you ever had a submissive D/s work-out parner? - 12/31/2007 3:12:44 AM   
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To make sure no one gets injured, instead of weights etc. why not get a submissive swimming partner?-its great all round exercise,good for weight loss, muscle tone and circulation, also, its probably less stressful for the body because you're using less force than you would if yu were lifting weights.

You could then punish your partner after if they hadn't worked hard enough during your swim :).

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