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So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 8:52:23 PM

Aneirin

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So many people say stopping smoking is their new year resolution.New year resolutions to me seem a half hearted attempt at something, so those saying they are going to quit the fag(I am English),from experience rarely ever do so on a resolution.

So those that say in this coming year they want to see the back of smoking, may I ask why you want to quit?

Is it because of ;

Health reasons?

Cost?

Or other peoples oppinion of you?

Any other reason?

I am a smoker myself, I would like to quit, but a resolution will not change things,I feel from others honest oppinions, I may help myself, and it occurs others oppinions here might also help other people in our dilemma.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 8:59:34 PM

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It depends on how smoking effects you. With some it is more psychological, and the nicotine addiction is not as strong. With others the nicotine addiction is very strong. Just like with any addiction, it takes a realization to decide to quit, and then the fortitude to see it through. I have quit twice in my life, once for 17 months and the other time for 19 months. I will quit again, and maybe it will be for good this time.

I never make new year resolutions, though I am introspective and make resolutions for change at other times in my life. I agree that the New Year Resolutions, are usually half hearted attempts at changing something in yourself.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 9:04:58 PM

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I actually accomplished this goal about two months ago. This was my second serious attempt, and I quit with the help of Chantix and a very good support system of friends and family. You're right, a resolution will not change things, and your reasons for quitting have to be important to you. It's also a matter of setting your mind to it. I decided that I was going to quit no matter what, and that I was not going to fail. I had tried to quit about a year ago, and when I decided to quit again, I looked back at that attempt and asked myself what my mistakes were. What did I do last time that I shouldn't have done? What little things could I change to improve my chances of sticking with it? That seemed to help a lot.

My reasons for quitting were all of the above (cost, other people's opinion, etc.), but health was the major factor. I have an UM with asthma, and while I didn't smoke in the house, it was still on my clothes, etc. I also had a slight scare wtih a spot on my lung. Thankfully the biopsy was fine, but it was definitely a scary thing. The best advice I could give anyone who is trying to quit smoking is to not smoke "just one." The idea after a couple of months that you can smoke just one cigarette can be your downfall.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 9:17:45 PM

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For me, the worst position for smoking, is here, at this computer,my normal smoking area.This last week, I smoked no more than three prison rollies a day,because in anothers house I smoked outside, which itself was a venture to get to, shoes on, out of door down two flights of stairs an open door to outside and then freeze in a scandinavian winter.I know my key is breaking this smoking at the computer, do that and I will be winning.

My reason for quitting is both cost and health, plus the factor that I only started smoking ten years ago due to my relationship with another and her family who were all heavy smokers.My addication came from side stream smoke, so much so, that when I finally tried a cigarette for the first time it had no adverse affect, no sickness, nothing, I was used to it already.This I wish to end, it is not me, never was me, I resisted the thought for twenty years of my aware life, it held no interest until this time.Now the difficulty is getting off of it.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 9:44:53 PM

hisannabelle

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greetings aneirin,

my master quit smoking about a year and a half ago - not as a new year's resolution. he just one day up and stopped. he tried the patch but it made him sick, so he just went cold turkey. to be honest, i have no idea how he did it. both of my parents smoked right on up until the day they died (ironically not of smoking related illnesses) - my mother did 3 packs a day, and she couldn't walk a block but she would have driven through a snowstorm to get a pack of cigarettes.

i think cost and health are two very good reasons to quit. as far as resolutions go, there's always resolving to do positive things for your body, which could include taking steps to quit smoking when you're ready - rather than resolving to quit smoking and just dropping off on the first try (i always do stuff like that with my new years resolutions).

i know that hearing sickness and doom stories as a smoker probably isn't fun or helpful, but you did say "other people's opinions." as someone who grew up in a house full of smoke knowing my mother would never live until i graduated college (although i didn't expect her AND my dad to die so soon)...please, please do what is best for your health. even if you don't have ums or a submissive or someone to quit FOR or anything like that...quit for yourself. your body will thank you. it is hard. i am not trying to say it is easy. heck, it's your body, you don't owe it to anyone to quit. but from your posts here it just makes me so happy that it seems like something that you are really aiming for...you just have to find the strength to do it. i will be thinking of you. best of luck.

respectfully,
annabelle.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 9:56:49 PM

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I want to quit. Mainly for myself (vanity and health reasons), but also because the person I am involved with would much prefer that I don't smoke. I've tried cold turkey..no joy. For a while, back in the mid-90s I was using Zyban(welbutrin) to quit, but at that time I was trying to quit strictly for the BF at the time.. the stuff was working, but because I wasn't quitting for the right reasons it didnt TAKE.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 9:57:18 PM

Aneirin

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Greetings hisannabelle,

Thankyou for your thoughts, you are most kind.Smoking for me is a large hurdle, it being out of my life holds the key to many other things I could do better without.I do intend to finish, I have at times, the longest being three years.And I have just suffered a week long attack by another scorpio, who happens to be an ICU nurse on the benefits of being without tobacco.The truth is, I know she is correct, she being an ex smoker and understands the difficulties involved.The writting has long been on the wall, it's time will come, when I am ready to make a real positive move,and there open the door to many other things that have eluded me.

The odd thing is, I spent xmas in the forest of Sweden with my family, Xmas day after dinner I had a cigar.I saw the look of envy upon my father, he an ex smoker too who I know misses a cigar after dinner.

The realisation is, once a smoker, having quit, it will never leave one's mind completely.Smokers are tainted for life and there struggle for life.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 10:01:51 PM

hisannabelle

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greetings aneirin,

i understand what you mean - i have dealt with addiction myself (not cigarettes, personally, but i can sympathize with the feeling of waking up with the struggle every day), and it never goes away. the feelings are always there. it's very hard to handle...my master still sometimes talks about how much he craves a cigarette just for the comfort level of it, not even physically anymore. it is a lifelong struggle, but i have learned at least with my own experiences that the more you realize how you are able to deal with it, the easier it becomes, and it may not go away, but eventually i think it does feel worth it. it is difficult, but ultimately it's an act of compassion towards the self.

respectfully,
annabelle.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 10:22:11 PM

Aneirin

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The odd thing is with smoking, I will quit it for another and their wishes, but not for myself.

At times I have stayed with others, non smokers and felt as smoking is an intrusion on them, I have stopped smoking, this past year I quit for two weeks whilst with another and that on my own insistance.I will not cause offence to another in any way, smoking I see as offence to non smokers and I would prefer not to pollute another's home with the lingering odour that hangs around a smoker who takes their habit out of doors.

I will quit for the comfort of others, but for myself I find the process difficult.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 10:26:19 PM

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Nope not going to quit. I did once for 8 months and then a relationship broke so I went back to it. I smoke much much more here at the computer whether writing or hanging out here. That is because probably 2/3rds of the cig burns down without me smoking it. I get caught up in something and look to have one drag left. I'd be considered a heavy smoker as now in the US anything over 2 cigs a day is a heavy smoker in medical terms. I quit the first time with the patch, didn't want a cig from the time I put it on and ended up throwing many of my things away as I could not stand the smell. I could not even walk through the smoking section of a restaurant without a comment on my way to the non smoking section (when we had smoking sections).

I tried several more times with the patch and ended up such a weeping mess each day by about 1pm that I would rip it off and go buy a pack of cigs.

I don't want to quit and trying to do something one does not truly want to do won't work.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 10:38:25 PM

Aneirin

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I suffered Stanstead airport today for four hours without there being an area us 'lepers' could relax,Airport in this day and age are not fun and after being done over by the security I needed a smoke, desperately.As I result I got angry.

In Britain with this anti smoking law, it would seem they love to pour the laws on smokers, never have the security been so dilligent as they are now, smoking will not be tolerated at all.

The country I was in a few hours earlier, it being non smoking for many years before us, recognises the stress on passengers and provides smoking facilities at no cost or danger to any other.I do not mind enclosing myself in a ducted air cubicle to indulge in my addiction, for there I know I can relax without causing consternation to others.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 12/31/2007 10:38:52 PM

hisannabelle

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greetings aneirin,

you are worth it, too. :)

annabelle.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 12:44:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

So many people say stopping smoking is their new year resolution.New year resolutions to me seem a half hearted attempt at something, so those saying they are going to quit the fag(I am English),from experience rarely ever do so on a resolution.

So those that say in this coming year they want to see the back of smoking, may I ask why you want to quit?

Is it because of ;

Health reasons?

Cost?

Or other peoples opinion of you?

Any other reason?

No....

(Best deals on Marlboros come out in January).

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 12:45:27 AM

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I will accept a new years resolution of Not Smoking.

I don't smoke now and never have so I should be able to keep this one.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 1:33:17 AM

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I made a New Year's resolution to set a quit date in 2005. I set the date for Jan. 31. I haven't smoked in almost three years. I still can't believe I did it sometimes, and I rarely, as in a handful of times since 3 mo since I qui ,desire a smoke...

It can be done, I smoked for 23 years. Two months after I quit my mother did. She smoked for over 50 years...

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 3:20:21 AM

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The story of Mutt's dad.......and Mutt's boy......

My father smoked for roughly 30 years.   He smoked Kool Menthals because they had so much kick that no one would bumb a smoke off of him.   In my teen years I decided to try one and got my teeth knocked down my throat. He didn't know how smart he was being, but he kept me away from it.

In the early 1990's, he decided to stop (for the umpteenth time).   He didn't tell anyone, he just did it and he was successful.    He also gained a butt load of weight and started eating candy which my dad NEVER did.   That said, he stopped smoking and everyone was amazed.

In 2004, he was diagnosed with squamous cell lung cancer.   97% of squamous cell lung cancer paitients are smokers.    It is a particularly nasty form of cancer.  He went about 10 months on his own two feet.   He fought it, he accepted it with a salute and then he fought it again.   We helped him, we supported him, and he accepted our things but it was different.   He used out support, he fed off of it, but it is hard to explain how he did such things because he did them with great dignity. In the end, he knew he was dead and made all of his own arrangements.   He embraced us and loved us, but he didn't cry upon our shoulders.   He was in pain and didn't hide that, but he didn't make it an issue either.   He dealt with it in an impressive way. He made it as easy upon us as it possibly could have been.   It was not easy, it was hard but damn what a man.    I hope I can be half of the man that my father was.

My UM will be 7 in a few weeks.   MY UM really doesn't remember much of my dad, just bits n pieces.    They had a tremendously special relationship when dad was alive but that was over 2 years ago.   We have showed my UM pictures and told him many details.    A few months ago, I was at a red light and heard from the back seat, "Don't do that, it will hurt your lungs."    I looked back to see that my UM had rolled down the window and was talking to a lady who was smoking in a car beside us.    I sooooooooo wanted to get out of there.   Then the UM said "That killed my pap paw".    I didn't know how to feel and still don't.   Mutt's UM is a great man......I can't imagine who he will be when I can stop calling him a UM.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 3:33:47 AM

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i'm not a smoker, and this may seem naive or presumptious my wading in..

if smoking at the computer is an issue, is it because the spot it's in, it's heavily associated with smoking? you have ur lighter, ur ashtry (or whatever) there conveniently to hand and you don't even think consciously about it?

is it possible, therefore, to move the computer? to deliberately leave the ashtray, etc. outside and make that the only smoking spot?

breaking a habit is nastily hard - whether it's smoking or anything else.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 9:14:45 AM

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health reasons,cost,personal need to and the underlying fact a relative recently died and lung cancer was part of what caused her demise,I don't want to go out that way.

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 9:25:48 AM

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I know 3 w lung cancer. one is 30 and dead now

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RE: So for the new year you are gonna stop smoking? - 1/1/2008 9:27:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KMsAngel

i'm not a smoker, and this may seem naive or presumptious my wading in..

if smoking at the computer is an issue, is it because the spot it's in, it's heavily associated with smoking? you have ur lighter, ur ashtry (or whatever) there conveniently to hand and you don't even think consciously about it?

is it possible, therefore, to move the computer? to deliberately leave the ashtray, etc. outside and make that the only smoking spot?

breaking a habit is nastily hard - whether it's smoking or anything else.

The best thing to do about those things that trigger you is to confront them... because eventually they will not trigger you anymore.

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