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Gauge -> BDSM in an apartment (8/22/2005 9:23:47 PM)

This question has been on my mind for the last several days and I wanted to throw it out and see what suggestions everyone had. I live in an apartment complex. My apartment is kind of small but since I am only one person it is fine for me.

I was wondering how other people play in their apartments without neighbors banging on the walls.

I was also wondering if anyone would have suggestions of some BDSM related furniture that could be easily broken down and stored in a closet.

Also, I must add that my upstairs neighbor is the very Hellspawn of Satan himself. I could be two states away and burp and she would be downstairs beating on my door threatening to call the cops. Since moving isn't an option, how do I handle this as well? I know the obvious is not to play here, but let's just go on the basis that I would have to play here.

I thank you in advance for your replies.



quietkitten -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/22/2005 9:30:25 PM)

Well, I am in that situation as well...

I have had more than one concerned person come knocking on our door because of the "odd" noises.
I play music or put on the TV and it does some good, but from the sounds of things, your satan spawn neighbor would hate that just as much. I also have a "white noise generator" that i use sometimes. It isn't as distracting and I can have thunder or many other noises in the background.




SweetDommes -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/22/2005 9:31:33 PM)

Sound-proofing ... you definitely need soundproofing. A simple, slightly effective method is to hang blankets up on the walls and ceiling - thick blankets. You should be able to research better methods - and if people ask why you are carrying all the sound proofing stuff in, say you are joining a band, you're the drummer and you have to practice at home ... people will be grateful instead of thinking you are nuts ... well, in theory, anyway LOL (we actually contemplated doing that until we moved into our first house together - and we did do a temp setup at one boy's apartment ... no one called the cops on us, despite the fact it was obvious that someone was getting hit repeatedly so it must have worked well enough).



subversiveone -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/22/2005 9:57:04 PM)

Gauge,
i feel your pain my 'brother'! i just moved into an apt w/DaddyMstr and his brother. Fortunately His bro is in the lifestyle and we don't have to hide anything from him. However, we do have to hide it from His folks that visit and for some odd reason end up in our bedrooms. Oh ya, im putting the kabash (sp?) on that one. ;)
Daddy built a contraption that looks amazingly like exercise equipment for us! Consider modifying a bowflex type machine or weight bench. All depends on what You need.



LadyShoshin -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 3:20:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

This question has been on my mind for the last several days and I wanted to throw it out and see what suggestions everyone had. I live in an apartment complex. My apartment is kind of small but since I am only one person it is fine for me.

I was wondering how other people play in their apartments without neighbors banging on the walls.

I was also wondering if anyone would have suggestions of some BDSM related furniture that could be easily broken down and stored in a closet.

Also, I must add that my upstairs neighbor is the very Hellspawn of Satan himself. I could be two states away and burp and she would be downstairs beating on my door threatening to call the cops. Since moving isn't an option, how do I handle this as well? I know the obvious is not to play here, but let's just go on the basis that I would have to play here.

I thank you in advance for your replies.



Acoustic ceiling tiles, go to your local Home Depot, let them know you are in an apartment with a persnickity upstairs neighbour and want to deaden the sounds of the tv etc. to eliminate the complaints. Ask how to put the tiles up in such a way that they can be removed when you move without forfeiting your damage deposit. Also hanging decorative rugs on the walls and back of hallway door can deaden sound. If you have vanilla friends or family in, decorative rugs look - decorative. The Home Depot staff could tell you how to hang them, again in a way that will let you take them down and still get your damage deposit back.

I don't have any dungeon equipment, but I really appreciate the living room chair I bought with my couches, overstuffed and comfy, it is my throne and my spanking bench all in one. Subs kneel in it with their head on their arms on the pillowy back of the chair and I have at them. I can also have them stand against a blank wall area just by having them rearrange furniture a bit to give me swing room, then of course, they can kneel either on the carpet of hardwood, but that is harder on my back, the chair puts them at just the right height. lol A test run was done in the store while the clerk was busy elsewhere. Of course we were probably caught on video, but we were fully dressed and didn't have implements, we just checked to see if the butt would be accessible or would the arms of the chair be in the way.



sweetpettjenny -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 3:26:41 AM)

My favorite piece of bondage equipment is at the club im a member at. Its made by bunswitcher (paul) . they totally take apart and you can't move a hair while on it. He often is found at the boston flea. hope this helps....It sure helps me( go into sub space that is).



Rayne58 -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 4:15:21 AM)

We live in a block of 8 units and the walls are pretty thick so haven't had any complaints so far....even though Master tends to get horny about 3am[:D]




imtempting -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 4:31:17 AM)

You can have a water cooled computer system yet cant work out how to have a scene with no noise. Im ashamed :P



Isolde -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 6:03:27 AM)

A good gag is essential. [:D]

For furniture...old weight benches are easily converted into spanking benches. You can make cages and crosses with a few screws, some of that plastic piping (PVC?) from hardware stores and some...uh. Joins? I think that's the word for it. An over-the-door hook holder as a restraint is good too. I've been thinking about making one, they look pretty straight forward. A strap with a double-ended doorstop on one end to catch on the frame when the door is closed, and a hook or loop on the other. You can also buy them online.



DrkAngl -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 6:31:28 AM)

If you search online, and probably some areas here at the message board, you will find things you can make yourself. If you make it, you can make sure it's easier to take appart.

PVC piping can be put to many uses. So can a simple modeling compound called Friendly Plastic. You'll want the pellets in the can. They are melted down in boiling water, while it's clear make what you want, put in cold water to harden it, and you've got yourself an instant toy. It makes very hard dildos as well. You could also make cuffs somehow out of it. If you get tired of what you made you merely melt it back down and start over.

Another nice thing is called "tool dip" it's made to dip screwdriver handles, tool handles, etc. in. It makes a foamish like padding I think it is. You can easily coat almost anything in it to pad things. It can be found at a hardware store, probably one of the chain stores. Not too expenisve if I recall.

Someone I know of took an old wooden saw horse, some foam padding that you can get at almost any craft/fabric store, wrapped it around the saw horse till it was nice round and padded, then covered it in black duct tape I think it was. Made some interesting things with limited/no amount of sawing, etc.

I also saw in a tv show where a guy took something that looked like a walk in closet, put gym mats around the area to pad, and made a small enclosed dungeon. The main thing was an upright like table and chains. Was interesting.

Also, you might do a net search to find other ways to sound proof.



MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 7:37:24 AM)

quote:

I was wondering how other people play in their apartments without neighbors banging on the walls.

I was also wondering if anyone would have suggestions of some BDSM related furniture that could be easily broken down and stored in a closet.

Also, I must add that my upstairs neighbor is the very Hellspawn of Satan himself. I could be two states away and burp and she would be downstairs beating on my door threatening to call the cops. Since moving isn't an option, how do I handle this as well? I know the obvious is not to play here, but let's just go on the basis that I would have to play here.

I thank you in advance for your replies.



Your upstairs neighbor reminds me of the neighbors I had in my first apartment. They would bang on our doors claiming they had heard a large crash and wanted to know what it was, when my roommate and I had just been sitting in the apartment quietly. Shortly before we moved out, the maintenance guy let it slip that they constantly called the office to complain about the noise, but the office just blew them off and never passed the complaints on to us.

Fortunately subsequent neighbors were less problematic.

Have you tried having a heart to heart with the neighbor, explaining that there has to be a level of tolerance for noise if one lives in an apartment complex, and that you feel she is too sensitive to your everyday living noises? It might also help to talk to your apartment manager about the issue, head off any complaints at the pass.

Your best bet is to do a combination of some of the previous suggestions. Textile wall hangings are great, as well as extra rugs on the floor; they will give the room a lush, medieval dungeon feel. Music played at non-obnoxious levels will absorb a lot of noise. Gags are a must for the noisy bottom, as well as the bottom being conscious that the walls are thin. Trips to a local bdsm club if there is one will give you somewhere to go where you can be raucous.

For furniture..."pervertable" furniture is most useful. A futon with a heavy frame doubles as both seating and for bondage. A heavy coffee table or an ottoman with eyehooks underneath for tie down points makes a great spanking bench. For a simple fold away bench, Black and Decker makes "Work Mate" work benches that fold completely flat. A sturdy chair without arms is great for spanking.




merrymasochist -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 8:53:51 AM)

Large styrofoam sheets ( 1/2"x 12"x 36") attached to the ceiling like tiles make for an excellent cheap sound dampener. They are lightweight and easily installed with the finest of finishing nails or even a good peel-away stick-um to keep from incuring management's wrath on your security deposit.

Good luck and play on!

Sincerely,

merry

P.S. -
If you have a wooden bed frame, you could attach handles at appriate tie down points. My friend did this treatment to his waterbed and on the few times he was questioned about the handles, he simply chalked them up to making the bed easier to move.
~grin~



NakedOnMyChain -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 9:43:31 AM)

Gags. Many different types. It tends to keep things erm...quieter.



pinkpleasures -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/23/2005 9:56:19 AM)

quote:

I was wondering how other people play in their apartments without neighbors banging on the walls.

I was also wondering if anyone would have suggestions of some BDSM related furniture that could be easily broken down and stored in a closet.

Also, I must add that my upstairs neighbor is the very Hellspawn of Satan himself. I could be two states away and burp and she would be downstairs beating on my door threatening to call the cops. Since moving isn't an option, how do I handle this as well? I know the obvious is not to play here, but let's just go on the basis that I would have to play here.

I thank you in advance for your replies.

Gauge


i have similar neighbor nut jobs. i have posted here before on this subject.


http://www.collarchat.com/m_101662/mpage_2/key_law%252Cenforcement/tm.htm#137628

http://www.collarchat.com/m_101662/mpage_2/key_law%252Cenforcement/tm.htm#129647

http://www.collarchat.com/m_101662/mpage_1/key_law%252Cenforcement/tm.htm#129004

What might help You, Gauge, is a reason for management to force Your neighbor to move. i assume she comes to Your door over the noise from Your tv or stereo. There are "spy shops" in many cities -- as well as online sites -- that sell machines to measure noise level. Keep a record of the dates and times she comes down to complain and what the noise level was at the time. Consider seriously getting a brief consult with a criminal attorney....and build a case that she is harrassing You and attempting to deprive You of the "quiet enjoyment of Your home". A restraining order keeping her off Your doorstep may be effective. A letter from the attorney You hire to the landlord may be effective. At the very least, You'd have records to show law enforcement of the frequency and nuisance-value of her complaints if she ever did call the cops on You.

As for dungeon furniture, i once received an email here from a Man who claimed to own 27 pieces of it; and to make it for others. i don't have His nick, but perhaps You can still find Him.

pinkpleasures



LadyAngelika -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/24/2005 9:30:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

This question has been on my mind for the last several days and I wanted to throw it out and see what suggestions everyone had. I live in an apartment complex. My apartment is kind of small but since I am only one person it is fine for me.

I was wondering how other people play in their apartments without neighbors banging on the walls.


I'm in a loft style apartment and though the walls are relatively thick, loud noises can be heard. Screams most definitely. I have the added pleasure of being friends with my neighbours. So I really don't want to stir anything up.

quote:

I was also wondering if anyone would have suggestions of some BDSM related furniture that could be easily broken down and stored in a closet.


You've gotten great responses about the soundproofing. Now for the decor. Like you, I don't want my flat to scream out KINKY!!! so these are concerns of mine too.

To quote an ex-playpartner of mine, a lot of furniture have a pervertable quality, especially IKEA furniture! She and I used to stroll through IKEA and play "spot the pervertable".

Sling furniture, that is furniture that is suspended from the ceiling is great. You can then justify the hooks in the ceilings. It looks kind of silly when you have an industrial sized hook holding a potted plant ;-) Here is an example, though I have to say that aesthetically, this one is not my taste, I like the concept.

Here is another favorite IKEA pervertable which can be a toy chest and at about 2.5 feet in height, a perfect spaking bench.
Of course beds with crossbars are great.

quote:

Also, I must add that my upstairs neighbor is the very Hellspawn of Satan himself. I could be two states away and burp and she would be downstairs beating on my door threatening to call the cops. Since moving isn't an option, how do I handle this as well? I know the obvious is not to play here, but let's just go on the basis that I would have to play here.

I thank you in advance for your replies.


Those aren't easy. Can you try to invite him over for coffee and sit & chat and discuss boundaries? Can you get your property manager involved as a mediator? I've had mixed results with approaching neighbours. Sometimes we've patched things up and sometimes we haven't. But it is worth at least a try. If they refuse to try and find a middle ground with you, then at least when they complain, you can tell them that you tried to bridge and they've refused.

- LA



OMEGA2WEREWOLF -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/24/2005 3:05:47 PM)

Hmmmmmmm...sounds like a top notch time to bring out the "stealth toys," eh?

These would be hypo needles for needle play/play piercing; scalpels, razors and the like for cutting; TENS unit or violent wand for electrotorture; clothespins, ice, etc.

Not all play has to be of an impact or noisy nature, and for those who just can't go without a bit of a paddling try a ping pong paddle lined with carpet tack strips...very ouchy, indeed.

If some of the more "edgey" forms of play are not your bag try matching the "background noise" to your type of BDSM scene. For example...a singletail or flogging session could be covered by a Western movie or Western movie soundtrack...Ennio Morricone is an excellent choice for such show tunes...he did the early Clint Eastwood Italian western movie soundtracks..."The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" and "Hang 'Em High" among many.

For scenes where torture and play leads to screaming...horror movies..."Friday The 13th" and "Halloween" are good ones.

The best option that I have found, however, is to move into a BDSM friendly apartment complex...in other words, friends and neighbors know of your BDSM kink, as do the owners, apartment managers, etc. I've found over the years that complexes that cater to gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have no problem with those who practice BDSM. Ask around..."kink friendly" complexes are out there if you can be patient.

Yet another alternative is "manufactured housing" aka trailer houses/mobile homes.

These are often for rent on an acre or more of land...few if any neighbors close enough to cause problems.

Enough of my rant for now, though...LOL...[:D]

Brightest blessings to you all and I luff ya.
Omega, instigator of play...aka Daddy Wolf.



MistressDidi -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/24/2005 8:03:09 PM)

Gauge, I feel for You!

I had a neighbor who threatened Me until I figured out how to get her first. I filed police reports against her saying that she threatened Me every time she saw Me and that she said she would harm Me. Then, I sent copies to the management and said that My safety was now also their problem and that this neighbor was a mennace. I finally scared the life out of her when I openned the door in one of My outfits with a single-tail in My hand. I told her -- VERY quietly that if she ever bothered Me again that I would send the demons to her apartment to skin her alive and that I would enjoy her screams. Expecting her to call the police, I beat her to the punch and changed into vanilla attire to let the police into My apartment to take My complaint. My sub, by that time, also returned to vanilla and sipped his tea and nodded in agreement with everything I said.

Then, I got some of the young men in the neighborhood to point, stare and whisper every time she walked by. She moved soon afterwards.

The creep upstairs is such a miserable monster that he only gets satisfaction from disrupting the lives of others'. Start filing police reports at the police station against him. When you have enough, you can take him to court for harassment -- and the management company, if they do not assist you in keeping him under control.

Of course, I live in NYC where every psycho visits and never leaves. So, My methods may seem a bit extreme to you.

I think you have to train your neighbors. Right now, My neighbors are fascinated by the fact that I Play. They get a kick out of seeing Me in My outfits when I am going to parties, etc. And I use ball-gags for the loud ones, ya know? After all, I don't want to freak My neighbors out! And lately, people are hinting that they'd like to come and check it out one day...

The idea about the styrofoam squares is good. Cork also works well, but is a lot more expensive and harder to decorate.

Good luck!
[image]http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL845/2883722/5870106/91568677.jpg[/image]


P.S.: My favorite gag is a lemon!



BalletBob -> RE: BDSM in an apartment (8/24/2005 8:12:22 PM)

HI Gauge. If your not making any noise past 11:00 PM, I don't see where it would be a bother for the neibor to call the Police....let them. After awhile, they won't even show up...as long as you DECENT by the time they show up. Try pounding on their door and se how they like it....what comes around, goes around.

I belong to a MSN group, that has some ideas for TOYS. http://groups.msn.com/HomemadeBDSMEquipment/_homepage.msnw?

Take Care and in fun, BalletBob



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