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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 9:58:49 PM   
farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: laurell3

You're insulting swingers by using the term in this context fargle and my opinion has not one iota to do with them as is perfectly clear. 


OK, That's a valid point...



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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:00:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Farg, is that really what swinging is?  Pressuring the employees for sex?  So Hillary was actually consenting, had full knowledge, and was getting off to her Husband screwing the hired help?  They were swinging at work and paying thier partners with Gov funds?  At best you could say they are Closet Swingers as they both lied to the American people multiple times to try and stay in the closet over it.  Isn't there an adage taken as axiomatic that Closet Case folks are untrustworthy and cowards?

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:02:49 PM   
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Farg, is that really what swinging is?  Pressuring the employees for sex?  So Hillary was actually consenting, had full knowledge, and was getting off to her Husband screwing the hired help?  They were swinging at work and paying thier partners with Gov funds?  At best you could say they are Closet Swingers as they both lied to the American people multiple times to try and stay in the closet over it.  Isn't there an adage taken as axiomatic that Closet Case folks are untrustworthy and cowards?


Not to mention the millions we paid for the investigation because of both of their protestations of innocence.  Is this how we really want to spend our tax money?  Disproving all her constant lies?  I wonder how much we've spent over the years on the Clinton lies and scandals. 

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:03:52 PM   
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Hasn't this country grown tired of the Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush Dynasty in the White House? Does anyone really want it to continue?


Do you really believe that voting is going to change that?


i can hope.......besides, what's the alternative, not voting? 
 
What would happen if an election was held and nobody voted?

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The outcome is pre-planned. This show is all just to keep alive the BELIEF that voting can effect change. It is that BELIEF ( like in Tinker Bell ) which prevents Revolution.


i also believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy and, i'm not real eager to live through a Revolution.  So, i will continue to do just as i was raised to do and as i have done since i turned 18 and that is to vote in every election and hope that it makes some sort of difference. 
 
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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:04:34 PM   
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If you guys remember a few months ago Ann Coulter joked that women should no longer be able to vote because they don't vote with any intelligence. Maybe she was on to something.....



I think clearly the more apt idea /title behind your thread should be :  Hiliary CAN NOT win the election unless a substantial part of the female voting bloc casts their vote for her.

Unless you count owner59, I know of very few other men who would vote for her. And by just analyzing the past three years worth of collarme threads tied to Hiliary, not too many women like her either - Bet

Don't let Faux news or the Republican party fool you......they're scared to death that John Edwards might win the nomination---They desperately want Hiliary to be the nominee.




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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:08:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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Hasn't this country grown tired of the Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush Dynasty in the White House? Does anyone really want it to continue?


Do you really believe that voting is going to change that?


i can hope.......besides, what's the alternative, not voting? 
 
What would happen if an election was held and nobody voted?



What would happen if an election was held, people showed up to vote, and then DIDN'T LEAVE while they observed THEIR VOTE being properly handled, and transmitted to the central tabulation center, where they THEN AGAIN verify their vote was properly handled?

ZERO FRAUD.

They'd make observing the process Illegal in an hour.



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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:17:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		the reason i dont' like hillary has nothing to do with swinging or her penis driven husband.....it has to do with her positions, and comprimises and non ability to commit to anything....swinging doesn't even enter the equation here.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:22:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		utopian...you should not make such generalities about republicans....you  might be able to speak for a few of them, but don't assume you can for all of them.  i could agree with michael savage and say that "liberalism is a mental disorder", but i am intelligent enough to know that not all liberals are severe and wacko in their thinking, just as i know that not all republicans are staunch bush supporters, etc.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:23:36 PM   
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the reason i dont' like hillary has nothing to do with swinging or her penis driven husband.....it has to do with her positions, and comprimises and non ability to commit to anything....swinging doesn't even enter the equation here.


For the second time, neither do mine, which again, is obvious.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:26:05 PM   
christine1


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Status: offline 		i'm sorry laurell, my response wasn't to you, but i don't know how to make my posts reply to whom i am responding to....no offense meant, my response was a general one, not meant for you in particular

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:32:19 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		Not a problem christine, just don't want people to think I hate the swingers.  I dislike the Clintons, swinging is fine by me. 

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:33:14 PM   
christine1


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Status: offline 		same by me...swinging is a lifestyle...the clintons are not!

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:45:01 PM   
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utopian...you should not make such generalities about republicans....you  might be able to speak for a few of them, but don't assume you can for all of them.  i could agree with michael savage and say that "liberalism is a mental disorder", but i am intelligent enough to know that not all liberals are severe and wacko in their thinking, just as i know that not all republicans are staunch bush supporters, etc.


I expect a new poster like you to take me out of context---so no problem.

My post was written in the context that addresses the strategic thinking aspect of the party leadership, not Betty and Barney Rubble or your typical member of the Republican voting bloc.




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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/2/2008 10:49:53 PM   
christine1


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Status: offline 		oh okay....i'm sure barney and betty consider themselves chastised...and i'm not sure they were republicans anymore than i think barny the purple dinosaur or peewee herman \were democrats.

oh wait, maybe they were!  i mean no they weren't!  oh shit, who give a flying smurf?

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/3/2008 6:22:26 AM   
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This is the same logic that applies to all "one-issue" voters.

There will always be folks who vote for a candidate (or refuse to vote for a candidate) based on a single issue.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/3/2008 6:25:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bush was elected because he 'seemed' to have deep-seated 'convictions'

I don't know of any president who has been elected for two reasons.

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/3/2008 6:34:24 AM   
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Bush was elected because he 'seemed' to have deep-seated 'convictions'

I don't know of any president who has been elected for two reasons.

Ron 


There was at least a second reason...he wasn't Gore.  lol

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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/3/2008 6:48:28 AM   
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Bush was elected because he 'seemed' to have deep-seated 'convictions'


Bush was "elected", because that's what was planned by the people who run the show years before the election.

Just as the result of 2008 is already scripted, and all that remains is to put on a good show to keep the unwashed masses entertained and busy fighting for their favorite candidate...





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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/3/2008 7:40:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I spend an awful lot of time in a town that is about as liberal, and lesbian as a town can get. I know of very few women that have shown interest in voting for Hillary Clinton. Most are either pro Edwards or Obama.

I think she could do a passable job as president, but not at this time. Thanks to Bush, our nation is in a very tenuable position right now. It is going to take a very unique individual to take over leadership of this country and get it on track. I just simply, do not feel she is the right person for the job.


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RE: Women voting for Hillary only because she is female - 1/3/2008 8:09:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just wondering how many men wont vote for her, simply because she is a woman... I dont know her politics, I dont care to know their infamous goings on, I cant vote, so its a non issue in that respect.  But I do remember men announcing that they wouldnt vote for Maggie Thatcher, , simply because she was a woman. Hard line tories tooo. Altho they hid behind the bluster of her policies etc, it was simply cos she wears her balls on the inside.
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