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Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/23/2005 2:32:38 PM   
TearCollector


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I grew up unaware of the BDSM lifestyle. It wasnt until a year ago that I stumbled onto this exact site by accident. My curiousity kept me logged on. I met someone that drew something out of me that I didnt know existed. Through her, I learned why I have never been satisfied. Unfortunately, she is not available for me to have. So I have searched for months to find someone like her. Suprisingly, the task is much more difficult than I had expected.

My question is complicated so I am at a loss on how to keep this short. Ill do my best to explain;
Without ever touching or seeing her face to face, my friend has opened a door inside me that few people could bare to walk through. My needs and desires are not driven by loneliness as I think many are. I am content being alone on this earth. Yet the door has been opened for me to explore something so deep that it would not be able to escape outside into my professional life. The slave I would like to find would need to keep the deepest secrets.

I see many Doms on this site demanding a no limits slave. As human beings, I think that is unreasonable. But in honestly, it is what I need as well. The differance between myself and the others is simple. A no limits slave is a fantasy that peaks their interest and desires. The idea of a no limits slave acts as a drug to heighten the dream. For me, a no limits slave is a necessary component to achieve reality. The critical ingredient to achieve satisfaction.

In a year of searching, I have found only one that could complete this level of tasking. She is not available. How do I go about finding this type of person? How many of these type of females exist? Is my profile appropriate to attract her attention? If it isnt, then what should be changed? Is it that important to have a picture in my profile? It would seem to me that the one I seek would not consider that a priority. I could be wrong. This person I seek may not be "no limits" today. But she must believe in herself that she has the potential under the right guidance.

I guess my question is this; Knowing what critieria I have described, what can I do to increase the odds of locating "the one".

TearCollector



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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/23/2005 4:02:42 PM   
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I guess my question is this; Knowing what critieria I have described, what can I do to increase the odds of locating "the one".

TearCollector




One place to look would be offline. Find an organization near you, join and participate in their activities. A good place to look is www.darkheart.com/usalist.html


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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/23/2005 4:16:40 PM   
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I agree with John. It would help considerably to locate someone offline if for no other reason than it being practical to seek out someone in your own area. If location is not a major factor, consider looking for someone that doesn't so closely resemble your friend. You might find, in your searching, that your special someone can come in a surprising package. Plus constantly seeking someone that fits your friend to a "T" can often dredge up unpleasant emotional side effects. No matter how closely a sub might resemble her, they can never be her, and it's unreasonable to expect them to. I know I wouldn't be pleased if master was thinking of someone else the entire time and wishing I were her. If you are determined enough, you'll surely find someone that can open your mind to all of the beauties that BDSM can hold. You just need to look for the right thing.

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/23/2005 4:17:03 PM   
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John

Your advice is of coarse solid. But I live on a small tropical island in the South Pacific. There is only one road here and two flights a week on and off this rock. We have interent service which is provided via US satalite. Otherwise, I may as well be on Gilligans Island. Im originally from PA. I have been here 10 years. I will most likely return to PA in a few years if my business can be turned over to local management.

So, my plight is deeper than just finding "the one". She also has to be relocatable. I dont really see that as a problem as most intensely dedicated slaves would consider a distance to travel as a minor obstical. The world is a small place for big minds. However, it does discourage people just looking for a quickie. LOL.

Thank you for your input. I hope its not the last time I hear from you.

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/23/2005 4:24:17 PM   
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Your point is very well made. I understand that my written explaination concerning my search refers a great deal to my friend. I suppose I lack the exact skills to convey my message with out using "her" as an example. BUt rest assured, I do not seek "her" in another body. I seek the elements that arose from knowing her. I can only offer you my word that this is true.

Thank you so much for your input. It was truely valuable as I will need to express in the future that any referance to "her" is not about "her". Its about me.

Thanks again
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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 4:10:09 AM   
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John

Your advice is of coarse solid. But I live on a small tropical island in the South Pacific.



Hey im all about islands!!! lol, rats im taken. So much for that fantasy. That makes it tough but with that kind of incentive to relocate, you're liable to end up with a harem of beach bunnies. ;) Be very cautious about developing an online romance where you purposely don't meet for months or maybe years. I only say that because while in your situation it would be extra tempting to do so, to save on transportation, im afraid you're going to attract a lot of users and waste valuable time/energy on them.

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 6:14:24 AM   
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To answer Your question about Your profile, it looks to me like a well thought out piece of writing, and You seem to know exactly what You're looking for. However, the bit about You losing Your slave "a few hours ago" is probably out of date, and would make me think twice before responding since i'd be hearing "rebound" in the back of my head. Also, i know You said this in Your profile, but do keep Your mind open about someone who may not fit Your "shopping list" exactly. Someone who may be an item or two off what You consider perfect may end up being the most wonderful thing that ever happened to You. I wish You luck on Your search.
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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 7:58:21 AM   
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Hello There,
I would recommend taking it slow and being yourself.
If a sub or slave devotes her/his self to a Master often the Master can help the sub to grow trust in their the Master enough to know he has her/his best interests at heart and respect the body that submits to them.

That's the point I was at when I decided to have no limits and never use my safeword with my Master. I know he loves me, takes good care of me, cares about my mental and physical state, and wouldn't ever want to do something that would emotionally or physically seriously harm me. There are often times I'll be playing with him just over my limits. I don't necessarily need to enjoy all the physical sensations of our play, but the fact I know I'm safe, loved, spoiled with my Masters affections, and giving him something he desires is a joy I crave. This far out weighs the discomfort or any fears I have. If I didn't trust him 100% with my body, mind and spirit I could not have a no limits mindset.
It takes building a friendship based on trust & integrity to achieve this plateau. It's not something you can force as a sane decision instantly in someone in my opinion, but rather must be earned.

If you are strict, firm, clearly defining you lines, and compassionate you'll find a sub/slave that won't feel the need to have limits with you.
Sincerley,
sub suzanne

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 1:22:32 PM   
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"users" are everywhere. In a way, we all use each other to satiisfy some need. Its why we seek each other out. But I do understand your concerns. I will install my "USER FILTER" and hopefully reduce the risk. As far as saving transportation costs; it is costly to fly here. BUt I travel to the states and other countries on business. It would be my idea to detour in the direction of someone I am considering during that trip. Im not in a rush and I would be cautious of anyone that was. Thank you for your very important post.

PlantLady64

I can only applaud your willingness to reach your Masters expectations and your success in doing so. Its out there for me too. I know it. Thank you.

Hissweetshiv
You are the second person to bring up this point. I recieved another reply in a PM with the same point of view. I have made the correction. YOu are further correct on when it was posted, it was outdated.

Concerning my shopping list:
I ll repeat what I said in a reply in the PM. In my profile I listed "exactly" what I felt was perfect. BUt I understand that no one is. I also state in my profile that if someone doesnt meet any one of the line items, do not disqualify yourself. Im honestly not that shallow. The list was generated to purposely limit the field of play. Im searching for Jewel of a spactacular class. She may not realize she is this jewel. Infact, I prefer she doesnt. She may even consider herself worthless. But her value will be discovered in our closed circle and polished to a perfection "she" never thought capable of. Its the raw form of the basics that I am looking for. The willingness to be anything. The need to be sub and the desire to please or die trying. A state of mind where failure is not an option. This excludes most human beings. But not all. I will find her or die with out her. Sadly, I see no value in settleing for less than her. I wish I could.

I know this seems a bit off the edge and perhaps it is. Ill say it again that I am unique in the most unique way. It unlikely Ill ever apologize for not being in the "normal" flow of things. My only exposure to this life style sent me spiraling into a hole so deep Ill never again return to what "was" normal. "She" will need to throw caution to the wind and fearlessly hurl herself into the Abyss in which now I live. What this will mean for her? The end of her search as well.

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 1:33:15 PM   
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PlantLady64

I can only applaud your willingness to reach your Masters expectations and your success in doing so. Its out there for me too. I know it. Thank you.


Hello There,
My Master ask me to tell you that "if you are honest, know who you are, and what you desire, and you communicate that to all around you, you will find the sub you search for. Don't doddle and stay focused on your dreams, you'll achieve the goal by being true to yourself."
I appreciate the wonderful compliment about our relationship & I'm lucky to have such a wonderful Master.
Sincerely,
sub suzanne

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 2:46:47 PM   
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I agree with your Masters Words. Im a ships Captain and I would relate what he said like this: Stay the coarse and eventually you will find land. LOL

I have already found myself spending too much time reading posts here. Its addictive. I will try to make a showing once a day but I can see I need to manage myself away from getting consumed here. I hope to find a message in my mail from someone who has read what I wrote and say they understand and can relate to this scribble I post. I wonder how many will read beyond the post and find me in the encryption? Just one would be enough to put a light in my darkness.

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/24/2005 10:42:19 PM   
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TearCollector, you ask such a serious and important question, and i think it's much more universal than it might seem. You are an unusual man with uncommon desires in an out of the way corner of the world, seeking what seems to be an unusual type of woman; so exactly how unusual is she, and if she does exist, where and how might you find her and capture her devotion and submission. But don't we all confront the same question, to some extent? We're all unique, to a greater or lesser degree, we all of us here are seeking (or have found, thank God) something unusual, out of the mainstream of society, or we wouldn't be here, and surely everyone, in BDSM or not, has felt himself or herself at times as isolated as if on an island with an immense gulf of ocean between yourself and the person right across the table from you. And you have the ability to travel the world, so you may be much less isolated than many of us. All i mean to suggest is that though you may be a unusual man, your situation is perhaps not as unusual as it may seem. And i think many submissive women might actually be more drawn to sharing your place in the world than to, say, a townhouse in suburbia or an apartment in an urban highrise. Your location certainly complicates the sort of hit-and-run speed-dating that many people seem to like to do, but that doesn't seem to be what you want anyway. Who and what you are and what you want and the way and place you have chosen to live your life will surely be overpoweringly attractive to the right woman. And where to find her? Ah, you've stumped me there! You're probably looking in some of the right places already. But i bet she'll turn up in the least likely place; just a woman's intuition.

And are there really "no-limits" slaves? i'll just second sub suzanne, that there certainly are, but i'm not sure that's always the best term for us. My master and i think of me loosely as a "no-limits" slave because i have no safewords, i never say no to him (unless the question is something like Are we out of champagne, slave?), and i never refuse any command or request that's within my power to obey, either from him or those in whose hands he places me, but in fact i have many limits. For example, i would simply freeze solid if ordered to commit suicide or become addicted to drugs or do irreparable harm to his property, such as my body, or to kill or maim another or to abuse a child or an animal, just to take it to the most violent extremes. But sexually and socially, my limits are far more extreme than my owner's, he takes much better care of my body and heart and soul than i ever could. So in practice for me "no limits" simply means that my limits are HIS limits, my personal limits are irrelevant because of who he is, i trust him with my life and he knows my few limitations are very unlikely to actually impede his use of me. i think many subs and slaves would be much more comfortable with that definition of "no limits" than with saying they truly have no limits whatsoever.

Thanks for wading patiently through this long post, sir, if you did. ;-) i wish you all the best in your search, and i'm sure some lucky slave is also searching for you right now, without even realizing it...

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RE: Darkest Souls and Deepest Secrets - 8/25/2005 12:02:59 AM   
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I could not improve on your post if I tried. It was exactly correct and of coarse I understand the "no limits" issues.

I do travel but I try to avoid it. I prefer to stay in the one place of comfort and maximize myself from that spot. Hence my location at the end of the earth. Its a fact that I can see the last second of everyday pass my home. As well, the first second of each day starts just in the west of my horizon.

I would never show an interest in a slave that was attracted to me because of my location or my capabilities. Her attraction MUST be from with in and about me. I am not a place or a position in life. I am only me. I have been high and low at differant points in my life. I would only consider a slave that considered those points irrelevent. After all, those points are subject to change. I am not.

I have been in contact with a few slaves from this site. I find their intense dedication towards their MAsters beyond admirable. It gives me hope to know that such loyalty and conviction flurishes. Even you ravenna, openly testifying that your man has never heard the word "no" from you is something I admire from you. Thank you for sharing it.

I would like to add that I have recieved some wonderfull messages due to my posting on this forum. Ill say it again that I feel I have wasted such valuable time in not posting hear earlier.

TearCollector

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