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Level -> Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 8:01:39 AM)

CHICAGO - John Holloway received a diagnosis of AIDS nearly two decades ago, when the disease was a speedy-death sentence and treatment a distant dream.

Yet at 59 he is alive, thanks to a cocktail of drugs that changed the course of an epidemic. But with longevity has come a host of unexpected medical conditions, which challenge the prevailing view of AIDS as a manageable, chronic disease.

Holloway, who lives in a housing complex designed for the frail elderly, suffers from complex health problems usually associated with advanced age: chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, diabetes, kidney failure, a bleeding ulcer, severe depression, rectal cancer and the lingering effects of a broken hip.

Those illnesses, more severe than those of his 84-year-old father, are not what Holloway expected when lifesaving antiretroviral drugs became the standard of care in the mid-1990s.

The drugs gave Holloway back his future. But at what cost?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPIB,HPIB:2005-21,HPIB:en&q=aids+aging




Sanity -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 8:07:36 AM)

Oooh, ow, yuck, ouch!

Condoms break, and STDs are real - that's why I keep my dick in my pants until I meet that someone special, and then we share test results before anything happens!




Termyn8or -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 8:31:55 AM)

Who can say how long he would have lived and what his quality of life would be had he refused treatment. Simply refused.

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pahunkboy -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 8:52:14 AM)

newsflash!    Aging has its NON-rewards!

There is not tooth fairy, no santa clauss, no Easter bunny, and no respect, revere, solace, utopia, when we age.

When your joints hurt, your teeth fall out, your hair greys and falls out, eye sight dims, blood tires. when one cna no longer feed and toilet oneself.----

I hope I perosnally can still pull the trigger! [on me]




SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 8:55:04 AM)

i wish i could remember an old joke i heard once......something like wow all this healthy stuff youre doing has added 2 years to you life......of course thats 2 more years to lie in the nursing home bed drooling and getting your diapers changed

more than likely we all face time of being disabled towards the end of our lives, unless we get hit by a truck and die instantly.




pahunkboy -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 8:57:49 AM)

The best we can hope for is to die in our sleep- 




Brain -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 9:11:34 AM)

No, I don't think so, there will be cures eventually, not too long

Stanford researchers find stem cell transplant can grow new immune system
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2007/11/19/daily48.html




Level -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 9:24:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

The best we can hope for is to die in our sleep- 


My best hope for death involves 3 Dallas Cowboys' cheerleaders.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 9:27:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy


There is not tooth fairy I beg to differ moms make great tooth faerys!

No santa clauss The all mighty $$$ is santa without it most would not get gifts!

 No Easter bunny I always thought pamela anderson was this she looks great in a bunny suit!!!





MzMia -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 11:03:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

newsflash!    Aging has its NON-rewards!

There is not tooth fairy, no santa clauss, no Easter bunny, and no respect, revere, solace, utopia, when we age.

When your joints hurt, your teeth fall out, your hair greys and falls out, eye sight dims, blood tires. when one cna no longer feed and toilet oneself.----

I hope I perosnally can still pull the trigger! [on me]


Howdy, pahunkboy, I have to disagree with you on this one.
The man in this story is 59 not 99!
In my book, 59 is not considered old age.

LOL
I work with several women near 70 that wear high heels and look at least 20 years younger.

Not sure what world you live in, but I will take mine.
59 for most people is not the last straw.

This particular Aids survivor has more health problems than anyone I have ever met.
He has more health problems than the average 95 year old.
My grandfather lived to be 96, and did not have 90% of his problems.




lauren0221 -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 11:28:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level


The drugs gave Holloway back his future. But at what cost?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPIB,HPIB:2005-21,HPIB:en&q=aids+aging


This is the old quality vs. quantity debate. If I was in charge of these things, we'd all have both.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 12:01:58 PM)

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MzMia

I work with several women near 70 that wear high heels and look at least 20 years younger.


Its the men that do that who are risking their health. 




MzMia -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 12:42:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

quote:

MzMia

I work with several women near 70 that wear high heels and look at least 20 years younger.


Its the men that do that who are risking their health. 



lol, seeks?
you need to stop wearing high heels then!

Seriously though, they are being kept alive longer at 
great physical and mental costs.

I would not want to live with that many problems, it sounds almost like people being
kept alive on machines.
I did not realize they were living longer, to end up like that before 60.




popeye1250 -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 3:02:33 PM)

My great grandfather was 93 when he died.
He smoked, drank wiskey in his tea every morning, chopped wood, walked.
He just wouldn't die so, we had to kill him.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 3:43:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia
quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
quote:

MzMia

I work with several women near 70 that wear high heels and look at least 20 years younger.

Its the men that do that who are risking their health. 

lol, seeks?you need to stop wearing high heels then!


When I made my above reply to MzMia I expected to be  taken to task for  being a heartless bastard.
Wild promiscuous sexual behaviour has always been known to have its down side. The 60/80's generation thought they knew better and the end result was things like  the  San Francisco Bath House scene which ended when nature once again asserted itself, in a very nasty way.

Not a nice messge to hear, especially on a site like this dedicated to offbeat sexual interests but nevertheless the only legitimate criticism IMO that can be made is that what I have said is untrue
Is it ?




popeye1250 -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 6:55:54 PM)

Seeks, true, all there was to worry about in the 60's was the clap.
Or maybe the crabs.




MzMia -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 6:59:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Seeks, true, all there was to worry about in the 60's was the clap.
Or maybe the crabs.


lol, the crabs?
Well std's were around in the 60s and 70s also, now.




FangsNfeet -> RE: Aging AIDS patients face complex health problems (1/6/2008 9:16:12 PM)

Dying is cheap. To live, that will cost you.




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