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A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 6:50:15 AM   
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Hey everyone!! Firstly, I sincerely hope everyone had a great holiday. Ok heres my question, if brusies last a long time(over 2 weeks) and were REALLY dark purple(almost black) Is that bad?...I mean does it indicate some tissue damage has been done or anything of the like? 

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 7:02:18 AM   
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Greetings,

It depends on where the bruise is at, and every one heals at a different rate. For really deep bruising the average is about 2 weeks.

Here is a good link on info: http://www.healthline.com/search?q1=bruises&utm_source=bruising&utm_medium=google&utm_campaign=serp&utm_term=deep%20bruising


Bruises are a part of life. If you use your body, it's going to get bruised at some point. By the time you notice a bruise, though, it's already started to heal.
A bruise, also called a contusion, is nothing more than bleeding that occurs under your skin or in the soft tissue beneath it, says the Nemours Foundation (NF). The bleeding occurs because trauma to the body has caused blood vessels to break. The blood has nowhere to go and gets trapped under the skin.
Consider a black eye, for instance. It's not a "black" eye at all, but dark purple and green. Those are the colors of the blood and its breakdown products beneath the skin. The skin around your eye tends to be loose and transparent. This allows the color to be seen as a true "shiner."
As a bruise heals, it changes color until it disappears. Bruises typically change color in a progression from a reddish blush to a gradually darkening blue or purple, followed by green and finally yellow-brown.
This color change occurs because white blood cells are removing the decayed blood products little by little, the NF says. Different components of the blood have different colors, and these colors in turn lend color to the bruise. Green, for example, represents a component called biliverdin. Yellow-brown represents bilirubin.
If you have a bruise that's a yellowish color or a yellow-green, it's an old bruise -- probably several days old. The color change begins either at the outside of the bruise or at the center, depending on how the bruise occurred.
More about bruises
The closer the broken blood vessels are to the surface, the sooner the bruise appears and the more intense its colors will be.
Most small bruises disappear within seven days, and larger ones go away within two weeks. Bruises may last longer in elderly adults, however, because restricted circulation slows the removal of the decaying blood components. This may be particularly true in the legs, where circulation may be restricted because of clogged arteries.
Whether a bruise forms depends on the angle and the duration of the impact, as well as the size, shape and weight of the object that hits your body. The most significant factor, however, is the speed of the impact -- faster blows are more likely to create a bruise.
Some people bruise more easily than others. You're more likely to be black-and-blue if you regularly take anticoagulants or aspirin, both of which interfere with clotting. If the blood doesn't clot properly, more of it will leak out under the skin when trauma occurs.
Bruise basics
To treat a bruise, the first step is to apply ice, but not for more than 15 minutes at a time. Ice numbs the pain and slows down the bleeding. After two days, you can begin to apply heat. This speeds recovery by increasing circulation in the affected area. If you can, elevate the area that is bruised.
When does a bruise require medical attention?

  • If you have a bruise, but you don’t recall being hit or injured where the bruise appears.

  • If the pain is out of proportion to what you might expect from the injury.

  • If the bruise is larger than what you'd expect from the injury.

  • If the pain worsens; the pain should lessen with time.

Hemophiliacs, as well as those taking anticoagulants should probably talk to their health care provider if they get a bruise. And if you seem to develop bruises in the course of your normal activities, without a related increase in falls or bumps, also check with your provider.

Treatment
Several types of topical applications are usually recommend to speed healing and to reduce the pain associated with bruises. Vitamin K cream can be applied directly to the site of injury. Astringent herbs such as witch hazel, Hamamelis virginiana, can be used. This will tighten the tissues and therefore diminish the bruising. The homeopathic remedy, Arnica montana, can be applied as a cream or gel to unbroken skin.
Oral homeopathic remedies may reduce bruising, pain, and swelling as well. Arnica montana, at 30 ml (1 oz), taken one to two times per day is highly recommended. For ledum, 30 ml (1 oz) one to two times per day is also useful.
Allopathic treatment
A bruise by itself needs no medical treatment. It is often recommended that ice packs be applied on and off during the first 24 hours of injury to reduce the bruising. After that, heat, especially moist heat, is recommended to increase the circulation and the healing of the injured tissues. Rest, elevation of the effected part, and compression with a bandage will also retard the accumulation of blood. Rarely, if a bruise is so large that the body cannot completely absorb it or if the site becomes infected, it may have to be surgically removed.
Expected results
The blood under the skin which causes the discoloration of bruising should be totally reabsorbed by the body in three weeks or less. At that time, the skin color should completely return to normal.
Sometimes, a bruise may become solid and increase in size instead of dissolving. This may indicate blood

trapped in the tissues, which may be need to be drained. This is referred to as a hematoma. Less commonly, the body may develop calcium deposits at the injury site in a process called heterotopic ossification.
Prevention
Vitamin K promotes normal clotting in the blood, and therefore may help reduce the tendency to bruise easily. Green leafy vegetables, alfalfa, broccoli, seaweed, and fish liver oils are dietary sources of vitamin K. Other good foods to eat would be those containing bioflavonoids, such as reddish-blue berries. These can assist in strengthening the connective tissue, which will decrease the spread of blood and bruising. Zinc and vitamin C supplements are also recommended for this.


I hope this helps all the bruised bottoms out there!

Gwyn

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 7:11:34 AM   
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Thanks a million Gwyn, that did help. Daddy just wanted to be sure He wasn't causing any permanent kind of damage, thanks again. (and it was/is the breast area, although I have had those kinds of brusies on my bottom and thighs too)

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 8:31:21 AM   
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Not a problem sweetie..

Tell him to go a bit easier on the tata's next time.

The skin covering the breasts is much thinner and the nerves and blood vessels are much closer to the surface. A womans breast is much more susceptible to bruising, and tissue damage then the rest of your body. ( Same with the vagina, and the tissues there )
It is why when doing breast bondage and torture you have to be so careful and mindful of that.
Over time internal scar tissue can build up, and throw off mamograms, or make you not have the kind of outcome you want from one. So be very careful in doing breast play. Always make sure there is a good blood flow to the whole of the breast durring play, and that any percussion is of a lighter nature then what you would use on other body parts.

I know they look nummy all tressed up tight.. but you can do it safely with out potentialy damaging the tissues.

I hope this helps,

Gwyn

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 9:02:35 AM   
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The color of the bruise would tend to loosly indicate how much blood was under the skin. So if there is a lot you get that deeper color as the bruise ages I believe. Gwy really covered it. Might want to loosen up (literally loosen the bonds a little).
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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 10:45:14 AM   
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Someone once told me that striking the breasts to produce deep bruising could actually kill a woman as there are blood vessles tied to the heart there and a wrong blow could be fatal.  Never researched it so i don't know.... anyone can confirm or deny that piece of info i was given? 

Also, i have had the whole range of bruising - from yellowish/green to almost black and maybe i am weird but my bruises never hurt  later on - unless i really push on them on purpose.  Anyone else have the same experience?  Welts hurt... but oh so yummy like



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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 12:02:40 PM   
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Heh. My first thought when I looked at the initial question was "I'm sure it could be worse." And I'll even share an example with pictures.

This was not a bdsm related activity. Instead, 3.5 years ago I was in a bicycle race. A criterium, which is a race where they block off a section of a town and you race around on tight turns for 20 minutes or so. Packs group together closely, lots of people, nasty business.

So I start off and get moving. Deep in the middle of the pack. On the third friggin' turn the guy next to me didn't hold his line and cut me off. I turned more sharply to avoid crashing into his back wheel but the thing got away from me. It wouldn't have been too tough to maintain if I was out in the open but I had dozens of people packed in around me. My rear wheel swung out to the side and I crashed down on my right hip like a ton of bricks. Two dozen or more riders then flew over the top of me and I huddled on the ground 'til it was past.

I tore my shorts and scraped up my arm and rear end. I did get back on the bike and kept going but was soon dropped for being lapped. I could've protested since I was in the wreck and stayed in but I did kinda want to go home at that point so I took the opportunity to have an out.

For those of you thinking "Oh, he just fell off his bike. I did that all the time as a kid!" I'll point out that it's a little different when you're an adult in a bike race. I was in the slowest group (category 5) and I was still going just slightly over 20 miles an hour when it happened. Jump out of your car at 20mph and skid your ass on the pavement and see how much it hurts you.

You can see how much it hurt me, but be warned! These pictures are not for the faint of heart.

http://tinyurl.com/32wdf2

My ass swelled up like you wouldn't believe. It looked like somebody had attached a half a grapefruit to me. I was limping and sitting on pillows for a week. The bruising didn't go away for a month. As it healed, due to gravity, it all slid down the back of my thigh (internally), coloring the back of my leg dark purple down almost to my knee. People would give me grief about babying myself until i showed them the bruise.

The net effect was that I ended up with a smidgen bit of nerve damage that's tough to describe. Basically, it feels like deep down the skin isn't as firmly connected to the muscle underneath as it used to be. The top tingles a little bit. Nothing major or important. Incidentally, this accident was how I know now exactly when my last tetanus shot was.

So if I can get through that with barely any ill effects, hopefully you'll be fine.

Next time I'll share pictures of the time I set myself on fire. :-)

No, that wasn't bdsm either. I'm much more careful in scene, apparently.

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 4:11:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Hey everyone!! Firstly, I sincerely hope everyone had a great holiday. Ok heres my question, if brusies last a long time(over 2 weeks) and were REALLY dark purple(almost black) Is that bad?...I mean does it indicate some tissue damage has been done or anything of the like? 


i think only a qualified medical practitioner can answer that question.  However, i've had bruises that were much like what you describe, and it does not appear that there has been any tissue damage! 

after a heavy session that has left me bruised (my favorite sessions!!), i use Arnica Montana Gel or Cream directly on the bruises, and i also take Arnica Montana homeopathic pellets orally.   i am not a big fan of homeopathy, but i completely endorse the use of Arnica Montana when you are dealing with bruises or other trauma to the body.





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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 4:31:35 PM   
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For me it's not a big deal at all- but I mark very easily and heal very slowly.  For you- I have no idea.

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 8:17:13 PM   
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May i suggest you try Arnica cream or oil..the difference i have noticed between using and not using is many days in the time bruising takes to fade.

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 10:07:23 PM   
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I think you could argue that almost any type of impact play has an element of danger associated with it. Bruising of breasts is a special area that relates to the act of sex itself. I'm not sure where it comes from within me, but I like to take my "passion" out on the woman's breasts during sex. I'm not sure if this constitutes D/s play, but one submissive in the past felt the bruising was a "badge of honor," indicating the same as having withstood a good paddling or something similar.

I found it to be exhilarating , and it fit quite nicely into the other acts between us. I never really considered that there could be longterm damage from this, but the most important lesson I've ever discovered as a Dom is that one can always learn.

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/7/2008 11:07:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

Also, i have had the whole range of bruising - from yellowish/green to almost black and maybe i am weird but my bruises never hurt  later on - unless i really push on them on purpose.  Anyone else have the same experience?  Welts hurt... but oh so yummy like




I tend to bruise fairly easy and some take a long time to go away even leaving faint marks behind for weeks past when the main bruise is gone. I also almost never have pain fron my bruises unless there is welting or something similar in the same area.

cali

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RE: A Question About Brusing - 1/8/2008 4:07:50 AM   
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Arnicas good and so is witch hazel if you dont enjoy your bruises lingering

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