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DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 11:51:42 AM)

My post was immediately labelled an attempt to garner "wank fodder".  Once I denied that, post after post of joking about "wanking" and the phone-thing in general ensued.

No, I got no sense the post was being treated seriously.

I came asking for female submissive input, not heavy-handed sarcasm.  And what's wrong in making a post asking for gender and role-specific feedback?

Yes, My tone was conspiratorial in its make-up.  I considered this place to be a bit private, anonymous, and about folks sharing things.

And as to online and phone, My experience has been through a lot of discussion of experience, fantasy, and technique.  And, yes, I've helped a number of women with it.  And, yes, phone has been involved.  Sometimes just instruction/practice with a dildo, sometimes for mutual enjoyment.

I'd be happy to go into it further but I'm not used to doing so from a defensive posture nor with man - Dom or submissive.  Perhaps that's My bad.  But, again, I don't see one damn thing about this "OP" that begs a male answer unless his ego, self-involvement, or overbearing need to be a caretaker is overpowering.




CalifChick -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 11:53:11 AM)

FR ~~~

I might have missed it, did you have a question?  Seriously. 

If your question is, "do you like it", the answer is yes.

Cali




lauren0221 -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 11:55:03 AM)

I like it very much. In person. Not via phone or online.




Jeffff -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 11:57:02 AM)

Unfortunately, you have chosen a public forum on a free site. That means once your thoughts are turned into pixels you have lost control. you do not get to determine who responds or what they say. As an aside, being defensive isn't going to help.

Jeff




CalifChick -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:00:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Unfortunately, you have chosen a public forum on a free site. That means once your thoughts are turned into pixels you have lost control. you do not get to determine who responds or what they say. As an aside, being defensive isn't going to help.

Jeff


Seriously Jeff?  SERIOUSLY?  You gave a SERIOUS answer again?  WTF is this world coming to?

Cali




Jeffff -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:02:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Unfortunately, you have chosen a public forum on a free site. That means once your thoughts are turned into pixels you have lost control. you do not get to determine who responds or what they say. As an aside, being defensive isn't going to help.

Jeff


Seriously Jeff?  SERIOUSLY?  You gave a SERIOUS answer again?  WTF is this world coming to?

Cali



Thats twice today..I AM capable.. I just seldom see the point

Jeff




DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:03:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

FR ~~~

I might have missed it, did you have a question?  Seriously. 

If your question is, "do you like it", the answer is yes.

Cali



I know you treated My post more seriously and I appreciate that.

Beyond whether one likes it or not come the questions about how one was introduced to it, whether it is a craving or something endured, albeit pleasurably.  I've seen gagging mentioned as a negative.  Yet, I know with others gagging of itself can be a huge turn-on.  Is it something one has even gone so far as to have asked for, explicitly, helping their man to understand it's not about her sucking his cock down as much as it is him pushing it down.

Some are turned on by the implied degradation or humiliation as well as the power.  Sometimes that's tied to retching as well.

I meant to stir the topic and see what bubbled from the female, submissive psyches here...

And thanks, again.  *Smiles*




TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:04:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DeliberateHand
No, I got no sense the post was being treated seriously.


Dude, your post was about as close to a personal ad as is allowed on this side of CollarMe.  It was a vaguely disguised attempt to get people to look you up for online and phone games involving Forced Oral.  It was treated with all it the seriousness is deserved.

Your first post got a lot of attention...which should make you happy...but then you get all defensive and somewhat homophobic...and come off looking a bit of a nutter.   Talk about life handing you lemons so you make a shit sandwich...

Taggard




sweetwenchie -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:05:01 PM)

Was the question do i like it?  Yes (if in fact that was even the question you were asking)

Were you here trying to drum up submissives for you to "teach"?   (runs far far away if that was the point of this whole post)




DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:05:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lauren0221

I like it very much. In person. Not via phone or online.


I agree wholeheartedly.  There are times when distance and other factors are in the way, however.

The feeling and sounds make it all so much more powerful.  Let alone the visuals.  *Smile*

Thank you.




RCdc -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:06:38 PM)

Deliberate Hand, It might assist you to post in the 'submissives' forum if you are directing to submissives only. (Just for your info).
 
I was the one who asked you if you were wanting wank fodder.  It was not 'labelled' such. I asked straight out a genuine question - You responded and denied it.  Often threads go offtrack, particularly when there is no specific question that can only generate a 'yes or no' answer.
 
I don't know if I would personally call sucking or choking on a dildo as 'forced oral' unless someone was forcing it into my mouth.  I would call it 'oral training' - but not forced oral sex.
 
the.dark.




DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:07:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Unfortunately, you have chosen a public forum on a free site. That means once your thoughts are turned into pixels you have lost control. you do not get to determine who responds or what they say. As an aside, being defensive isn't going to help.

Jeff


I do understand it was all a calculated risk.  I rather assumed a site dedicated to an often ridiculed lifestyle and/or practices would be a bit softer to enter.  No matter.

I just want to be treated seriously is all.

Thanks.




DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:10:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeliberateHand
No, I got no sense the post was being treated seriously.


Dude, your post was about as close to a personal ad as is allowed on this side of CollarMe.  It was a vaguely disguised attempt to get people to look you up for online and phone games involving Forced Oral.  It was treated with all it the seriousness is deserved.

Your first post got a lot of attention...which should make you happy...but then you get all defensive and somewhat homophobic...and come off looking a bit of a nutter.   Talk about life handing you lemons so you make a shit sandwich...

Taggard



I was confiding a fetish, and, yes, looking for complementary-minded people.  Don't people post about specific activities, etc. for discussion and help?

I guess I see what you're saying.  Sorry if I've given the wrong impression.




Jeffff -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:10:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeliberateHand

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Unfortunately, you have chosen a public forum on a free site. That means once your thoughts are turned into pixels you have lost control. you do not get to determine who responds or what they say. As an aside, being defensive isn't going to help.

Jeff


I do understand it was all a calculated risk.  I rather assumed a site dedicated to an often ridiculed lifestyle and/or practices would be a bit softer to enter.  No matter.

I just want to be treated seriously is all.

Thanks.


I understand......but the danger lies when we take oursleves too seriously

Jeff


and thats 3....and it has GOT to be my limit




lablancsecret -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:12:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty


Dude, your post was about as close to a personal ad as is allowed on this side of CollarMe.  It was a vaguely disguised attempt to get people to look you up for online and phone games involving Forced Oral.  It was treated with all it the seriousness is deserved.

Your first post got a lot of attention...which should make you happy...but then you get all defensive and somewhat homophobic...and come off looking a bit of a nutter.   Talk about life handing you lemons so you make a shit sandwich...

Taggard



How does one make a shit sandwich from lemons? I'm not too clear on the methodology... Maybe I don't want to be.[&:]

I thought lemonade was the preffered end result of being given lemons!




mnottertail -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:13:31 PM)

I like to get blowjobs, but when I post about it, all I get is empty promises...

So, thats the way it goes.

Ron




DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:13:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetwenchie

Was the question do i like it?  Yes (if in fact that was even the question you were asking)

Were you here trying to drum up submissives for you to "teach"?   (runs far far away if that was the point of this whole post)


I put the question out there of do you like it and how, I suppose.  Looking to teach?  Yes, I suppose.  Though I assume I may have much more to learn and understand on the topic.  Drumming up submissives?  No, I don't need to do that.  I can do that at any chatsite.




lauren0221 -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:13:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeliberateHand

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Unfortunately, you have chosen a public forum on a free site. That means once your thoughts are turned into pixels you have lost control. you do not get to determine who responds or what they say. As an aside, being defensive isn't going to help.

Jeff


I do understand it was all a calculated risk.  I rather assumed a site dedicated to an often ridiculed lifestyle and/or practices would be a bit softer to enter.  No matter.

I just want to be treated seriously is all.

Thanks.


I understand......but the danger lies when we take oursleves too seriously

Jeff


and thats 3....and it has GOT to be my limit


Is it a bad thing that I am kind of turned on by Serious Jeff?




patienceNYC -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:14:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeliberateHand
This is a key fetish of Mine.  Taking her mouth and using it as a fuckhole including deep thrusts with gagging, etc.  I'm only average-sized, so down, size-whores.  *Grin*

Sure, there is a lot of porn out there with it and it was kind of trendy for a while, but I've been on this for many years.  I've encountered a number of women curious to adamant about enjoying it.  I have My preferences in how it is all done, etc.  But My hugest enjoyment is helping women to explore it and, even, experience and become successful at it.  Of course, much of that is online and phone support.

There are a lot of you female submissives out there that enjoy this, yes?  Perhaps crave it much more than you ever get it.  And there are those of you out there wishing beyond wish your Dom would go for it.
Aren't there?  *Grin*

i'm curious...in your set-up is the sub playing like she is enjoying it or is she playing like she is being violated and in distress?




DeliberateHand -> RE: Forced Oral (1/9/2008 12:16:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Deliberate Hand, It might assist you to post in the 'submissives' forum if you are directing to submissives only. (Just for your info).
 
I was the one who asked you if you were wanting wank fodder.  It was not 'labelled' such. I asked straight out a genuine question - You responded and denied it.  Often threads go offtrack, particularly when there is no specific question that can only generate a 'yes or no' answer.
 
I don't know if I would personally call sucking or choking on a dildo as 'forced oral' unless someone was forcing it into my mouth.  I would call it 'oral training' - but not forced oral sex.
 
the.dark.



Thank you.  And if a moderator thinks that's where it should be, I hope they'll put it there.  I rather assumed Dominants weren't allowed in there - you know, no "drumming up submissives".

When someone's not had a cock shoved down their throat before, yes, oral training is in order.  A number I've talked with expressed great interest in the topic but were afraid they were incapable, citing an agressive gag reflex, etc.  This is very much inline with a submissive's training regimen for a Dom with such a demand.




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