thetammyjo
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ORIGINAL: JDEmpath If a real man means one who is overtly aggressive, competitive, violent, and all of those things that defined the alpha male about 1 million years ago, then I do not wish to be a real man. thanks, UnrealMan Why you gotta hate on the Alpha? Omega You know I remember revisions to the observations of animals a few years ago that revealed that the alpha males of those groups fathered fewer offspring than the beta males. The alpha had to spend so much time defending his "rights" being so aggressive or protective that he often had little time to mate. So females in the group would turn to other males when the biological needs hit. I recall that they determined this through both observation and genetic testing. I have not heard of that, but it makes sense. But then the Beta is usually the Alpha in waiting. As I recall most of the other males in the group fathered more offspring than the alpha even the male who was lowest in the rankings got some though not nearly as much. I walked away from that PBS special or whatever it was thinking "damn, animals sure are a lot more complicated than we thought" and I also recall thinking that was cool. I recall in that same show they looked at a lot of mating habits and found a lot more variety than had normally been reported in past decades. Mating rituals that appeared to be rape now looked like the female had a lot more say/pull, making it easy for the males she wanted and successfully fighting off those she didn't for example. Oh, and now that I'm remembering it I recall that among orangutans they found older males adopting orphans and even one real rape case where a low ranking, very young male forced a younger female and was shunned by the entire group and had to leave. Wow, wish I could remember how many years ago this show was on. It was pretty interesting. I'm totally going astray from the OP but yeah, we are a big all geek household here in so many ways!
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