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LadyKim -> Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/25/2005 9:00:47 AM)

A sub sent me an email today asking me what made me believe in female supremacy. At first I thought it was a no brainer answer, but then I got to thinking about it. And I started to wonder if a Mistress views this differently than a submissive boy.

So, I am putting the following questions out for discussion:

1. How do you VIEW female supremacy?


2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?


3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?


I have a feeling several of these will be the same, but it should make for an interesting topic of conversation.

MzKim




lonewolf05 -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/25/2005 9:24:31 AM)

ORIGINAL: LadyKim

1. How do you VIEW female supremacy?


view it? from a distance...lol. no, really, i am an avid believer.



2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?
what behavior?

a Lady that is most feminine. hands on Her hips, likes wearing skirts and heels. dangly earrings. poofie hair do's. nice make up. a girlie girl.






BostonGuy -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/26/2005 12:35:13 PM)

A sub sent me an email today asking me what made me believe in female supremacy. At first I thought it was a no brainer answer, but then I got to thinking about it. And I started to wonder if a Mistress views this differently than a submissive boy.

So, I am putting the following questions out for discussion:

1. How do you VIEW female supremacy?

I think that to believe in the supremacy of either gender is delightful in fiction, but it ends there. To believe in this is as distasteful to me as is male supremacy, Aryan supremacy, white supremacy, etc. Female supremacy is merely an example of sexism that is acceptable in some quarters within the BDSM and D/s communities.

For example, why would I possibly think that a poorly educated woman who does not take care of her health and her physical and emotional well being, has poor hygiene, and describes herself as "a dominate" [sic] is "superior" to men? If she truly believes that she is "superior" as a consequence of being a female, she is tragically mistaken. The presence of two X chromosomes in the absence of any worthwhile qualities is hardly sufficient to demonstrate that she is superior to the likes of Gandhi, Einstein, or Beethoven. They contributed something lasting to society.


2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?

Not applicable.


3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?

A FemDom is not inherently superior to me. She is different from me. The loving relationship with a dominant woman that I hope to find does not involve the need for female supremacy.


I have a feeling several of these will be the same, but it should make for an interesting topic of conversation.




denimknight -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/26/2005 2:19:31 PM)

1. How do you view female supremacy?:
Female Supremacy is an idea, a concept if you will. The foremost proponent of this idea is Elise Sutton, a woman of obvious intellect who presents her views regarding the dominance of one biological sex over the other in a clear and thought provoking way. However, having read her view and arguments supporting them I find myself unconvinced. There just seem to be too many holes in the argument that are left unfilled (based upon those writings of her's I've managed to get my hands on). While I do believe that some individuals are Superior to others, in the vast majority of cases I find that this is because the individual in question has put forward the time, and effort to tap their innate potential.
Greatness is not given by virtue of birth, it can only be attained through diligent struggle. It rightfully belongs only to those with the strength of will necessary to earnestly reach for it regardless of race, religion, nationality, age, or sex.
2. What activities or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?:
Sadly many (but by no means all) of my experiences with vocal female supremacists have served as some of the best arguments against the superiority of women as a whole. As a result the activities and behaviors that seem to best exemplify female supremacy based upon my experiences would be when a woman uses the "fact" that she is "innately better than a man" as an excuse not to work hard and make the effort to better her mind, body, and spirit. Unfortunately I have watched female supremacists conduct themselves in a vicious and overtly hateful manor so I guess that would also be a behavior that exemplifies female supremacy based upon my experiences.
Honestly I would like to believe that I have just been unlucky in my encounters with female supremacists, and as I said not all of them have served as such wonderful arguments against female supremacy as a concept. However, the vast majority have and so my answer to this question is what it is.
With any luck if I happen to get asked again a year from now my response will be very different.
3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?:
As I mentioned before I do believe that some individuals have worked to place themselves above others. I have been fortunate enough to have women in my life who have left me utterly awe struck as I witnessed the glorious nature of their character. These women have all displayed two common characteristics. An intense desire to help those around them reach their full potential, and an incredible capacity to love.
With this in mind perhaps the best answer I can offer for your question is this:
I would enjoy having a FemDom earn my trust and having done so guide me as I walk this path; help me to focus my energy, and become a smarter, stronger, better slave. I would enjoy having Her do this not only so that I may better serve Her, but so that I might become a greater blessing to the world around me and a finer tool in the hands of my God.
I would also enjoy having a FemDom love me even when I in my natural human weakness am given over to frustration, anger, self loathing, selfishness and generally being less than love-able. I say this because there is perhaps no greater expression of love than forgiveness and the ability to love someone in-spite of their imperfections.
respectfully submitted
dk




onceburned -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/26/2005 6:22:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyKim
1. How do you VIEW female supremacy?


I view it as a form of kinky role play. Its not for me, but I am aware that it works for others.

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2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?


I don't feel qualified to answer this question.

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3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?


I agree with BostonGuy's statement that it is not a matter of superiority as much as it is a matter of different roles. That I serve a woman does not make her superior to me - it just makes her special to me.




IMDJ2 -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/26/2005 6:47:13 PM)

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1. How do you VIEW female supremacy? I am taking a different twist on this. Growing up my Mother ran the house hold and we where taught from a very young age never to mouth off or talk back to Mom or watch out for the back hand. Since then I have related the same respect for my mother on to all women. Treat them like the deserve to be treated with the upmost respect


2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you? When I was still serving my last Mistress, she would know how to break me down. Nothing sexual, just strip me of my clothing except a pair of bikini underwear and white cuffs cotton cuffs around my wrist and have me clean her house from top to bottom. That activity always broke it down to me that she was in charge and I did as I was told.


3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?
I would enjoy having Milady blindfolding me, putting head phones on so I cant hear whats going on and straping me to a cross. Sensory depravation is a + for me. That ranks up there with CBT.




LadyKim -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/29/2005 6:03:05 AM)

Thank you to those who have posted on this subject. I had hoped it would ignite a rather heated discussion.

My personal opinion is that we are all human, and if someone has superiority over you it is because you allow it. It requires both roles for a D/s relationship to exist, and it will only exist if both people agree to the roles. Female Supremacy only exists because there are male submissives that wish for it to exist.

Thanks again for everyone's participation.

MzKim




letmebeblunt -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (8/29/2005 11:17:21 AM)

well said!




michaelMI -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/11/2005 5:52:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyKim

A sub sent me an email today asking me what made me believe in female supremacy. At first I thought it was a no brainer answer, but then I got to thinking about it. And I started to wonder if a Mistress views this differently than a submissive boy.

So, I am putting the following questions out for discussion:

1. How do you VIEW female supremacy?

as with all things, each to his/her own talents and abilities. there are some females out there content to lead, while others are content to follow. i believe it all comes down to honor and respect. without these two things one cannot lead, if one does not honor or respect the supremacy of another, then it will not work.

2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?

a show of strength does not always lead to supremacy, it's the strong that knows when to pull the reigns tightly and when to ease up the slack. pulling the reigns too tightly for too long leads to rebellion and the respect is lost.

3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?

as i am a submissive, yes. i do enjoy having a Mistress to put me in my place, but as a Mistress will test ones limits, a sub will also test the limits of their Mistress. it's all about trust, honor and respect between two individuals.

I have a feeling several of these will be the same, but it should make for an interesting topic of conversation.

MzKim




LadyAngelika -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/11/2005 12:41:09 PM)

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That I serve a woman does not make her superior to me - it just makes her special to me.


I just read this now, as this thread has just been revived. Awesome statement onceburned. I like it.

- LA




onceburned -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/11/2005 2:47:13 PM)

Did I write that?? Wow, I must have been smart that day. Thanks! [:)]




LadyAngelika -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/11/2005 2:51:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

Did I write that?? Wow, I must have been smart that day. Thanks! [:)]


I think you've been smart, and thoughtful, many days actually.

- LA




trueshadow -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/11/2005 3:53:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyKim


1. How do you VIEW female supremacy?


2. What activites or behavior best embodies or exemplifies female supremacy to you?


3. What would you enjoy having a FemDom do to reinforce her superiority over you?


I certainly believe in Female Supremacy in general, but not to each and every woman. I do look to serve one whom I can worship as my Superior. I'd like to give her my body, my mind, and my soul.

A Superior Female should be bright, self-confident, and accepting of worship. She should feel that having a male worship her is her birthright. She should be able to take a slave, own him, control him, and force him to his knees as need be. Generally, a male slave is yearns to have a woman take him, control him, and own him as he so desperately desires. Unfortunately, few women seem to want to own a man completely as her slave. (I'm still looking!)

Physical control and punishment is vital; a slave will offer himself to the Superior Woman, if only she will take him. Enforcement of the Superiority of the Woman is achieved when he is naked, and offers himself to her. She symbolizes her Ownership when she inflicts pain on him, and he accepts it and thanks her for owning him. Torture to the manhood is vitally appropriate and dearly welcome.

Inflicting the pain is the dominance, acceptance of the pain and gratitude for it is the submission, and the mark of the slave.




Mymantoy999 -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/12/2005 7:48:40 PM)

Female Supremacy is a rediculous concept. So many times in history someone thought that they were superior to someone else, and it ALWAYS ended badly.

To me it is not even a "fantasy" because to me almost all fantasy is in someway reality based. But that is just me.

i serve MsSuzan but do not accept that that implies superiority on Her part. The main reason is that i refuse to accept the implication that in a relationship of opposites that i am inferior. MsSuzan would never settle for inferior service therefore as Her service provider, i can't be inferior.

ed




ponygirlzira -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/12/2005 8:19:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BostonGuy


For example, why would I possibly think that a poorly educated woman who does not take care of her health and her physical and emotional well being, has poor hygiene, and describes herself as "a dominate" [sic] is "superior" to men? If she truly believes that she is "superior" as a consequence of being a female, she is tragically mistaken. The presence of two X chromosomes in the absence of any worthwhile qualities is hardly sufficient to demonstrate that she is superior to the likes of Gandhi, Einstein, or Beethoven. They contributed something lasting to society.


Amen.




HenryMiller -> RE: Question for male subs on Female Supremacy (11/13/2005 11:10:32 AM)

I don't believe in "Female Supremacy" at all. I believe in the Supremacy of my Dominatrix. Two totally different things: a category versus an individual. Simply because Supreme females exist, Freya bless them, does not translate into the Supremacy of their gender category.




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