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wankerforuse -> GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 12:37:06 AM)
As a planet we have always had freak weather,so for the scientists to tell us now we should be more greener is just a load of old rubbish in my opinion.But what does everyone else think about this topic?I would be most interested to know what you all have to say thanks very much indeed.

CuriousLord -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 12:43:52 AM)
I'd strongly suggest you take this oppurtunity to edit the CAPS out of the thread title. Many who may've otherwise considered this thread thoughtfully will instead simply find it as vulgar in presentation and tainted for it.

LadyEllen -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 3:55:57 AM)
Lets assume for a moment it is all a load of old rubbish (interesting choice of words) Does it not make sense even so to use fewer resources and not pollute the environment? E

KenDckey -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 4:14:04 AM)
OK I won't argue whether or not we should recycle, etc. I do it and not for global warming reasons. Just makes sense to me. But what I don't understand is why is it that other planets are heating up on the same curve (I remember yahoo reporting what a week or so ago that Saturn was heating up and Mars and others are heating). And if they are heating on the same curve, why is everything man's fault.

Muttling -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 4:42:44 AM)
I grew up in Tennessee and still live here. I remember the days when we actually had snow in this state. I don't mean a dusting that melted the next day, but several inches that stayed on the ground for a few weeks. I remember buying Halloween costumes 2 sizes too big so you could wear a sweat suit underneath. I remember building a snowman with my cousins on Thanksgiving. We haven't seen a snow in Tennessee in over 10 years now. NOTHING. hmmmmmmmmmmmm......It might not be global warming, but something has sure as hell changed.

Sanity -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 5:29:49 AM)
El Nino, La Nina, sun cycles, normal earth cycles - some of these could obviously impact Tennessee snowpacks. Track the record low every day, the record high and the average (for where you are) and you'll probably start to wonder what caused global warming in the 1930's or global cooling in the 1970's. Why do you think that the snow that you recall when you were young was any more "normal" than the lack of snow that today's youth will remember when they're older...

sub4hire -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 5:47:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Muttling I grew up in Tennessee and still live here. I remember the days when we actually had snow in this state. I don't mean a dusting that melted the next day, but several inches that stayed on the ground for a few weeks. We haven't seen a snow in Tennessee in over 10 years now. NOTHING. hmmmmmmmmmmmm......It might not be global warming, but something has sure as hell changed. It is global warming. The weather has changed. La Nina, El Nino and everything else is a direct result of global warming. If anybody has any doubt visit the north and watch the glaciers fall off in front of you. Even if as a world we could come together to try to be better, would it stop global warming?

Sanity -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 5:50:02 AM)
The Earth's climate has been constantly changing since it's beginning. quote: ORIGINAL: sub4hire It is global warming. The weather has changed. La Nina, El Nino and everything else is a direct result of global warming. If anybody has any doubt visit the north and watch the glaciers fall off in front of you. Even if as a world we could come together to try to be better, would it stop global warming?

DominorSomnium -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 7:37:27 AM)
people seem to forget that during the late middle ages earth was in a mini ice age. and during the times of the Romans average temperatures were even warmer than today. the earth has natural cycles we will never hope to understand, and I believe this global warming gibberish is a political means of control. when my Pinatubo in the Philippines erupted in 1992 it put out more co2 and green House gases than humans did in a century. a convenient truth AL gore and his ilk forget to mention.

samboct -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 7:47:54 AM)
I've said it before, and now I'm saying it again- the causes of global warming (or climate change) if you prefer are irrelevant. The Titanic has struck the iceberg. Now do you want to run around pointing fingers or do you want to do something about it? I suspect the dirty little secret of replacing fossil fuels is that contrary to the entrenched interests claim (an unfounded assumption if you prefer), a more technologically sophisticated technology will be cheaper. Look at air travel as an example. Was it cheaper to fly across the country in a DC-3 or in a 747- yet the 747 costs orders of magnitude more money to purchase. The technology we'll use to replace fossil fuels isn't what we've got on hand today- it's what we'll have in 5 years assuming we get off our increasingly large and rotund asses. It's perfectly feasible to replace imported oil in less than a decade- we just have to make up our mind to do it. If we don't the folks in Europe and Japan already are, and we're falling further behind. In short- by not investing in better technology now- we're resigning ourselves to either playing very expensive catch up later on- which probably won't even be possible, or relegating the US to a backwards country. Sam

LadyEllen -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 8:43:31 AM)
Its absolutely true that volanoes emit huge amounts of undesirable materials - if the volcano known as Yellowstone National Park goes off (and its due apparently) then we're all fucked. Simple as. Regardless of what we do or where we are. I'm not entirely convinced of the man made change aspect to what is a changing global climate - I'd say I'm about 60/40 that its something we're responsible for. I'm even less convinced that we can do anything much to mitigate the effects which are coming should the whole thing prove to be true. But that said, it can only benefit us surely, if we dont use our resources up so quickly and if we avoid polluting the environment? And for that reason I support recycling, fossil fuel dependency reduction and cleaner technologies - and if it happens to be that these things help in turning round man made climate change, if there is such a thing, then all the better. If there is no such thing, then we've maintained our resources for longer and have a cleaner place to live. E

popeye1250 -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 9:28:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity El Nino, La Nina, sun cycles, normal earth cycles - some of these could obviously impact Tennessee snowpacks. Track the record low every day, the record high and the average (for where you are) and you'll probably start to wonder what caused global warming in the 1930's or global cooling in the 1970's. Why do you think that the snow that you recall when you were young was any more "normal" than the lack of snow that today's youth will remember when they're older... Yeah, I remember the winters during the 70's were cold. Much colder than the 1960's.

ravennfyre -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 10:03:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Muttling I grew up in Tennessee and still live here. I remember the days when we actually had snow in this state. I don't mean a dusting that melted the next day, but several inches that stayed on the ground for a few weeks. I remember buying Halloween costumes 2 sizes too big so you could wear a sweat suit underneath. I remember building a snowman with my cousins on Thanksgiving. We haven't seen a snow in Tennessee in over 10 years now. NOTHING. hmmmmmmmmmmmm......It might not be global warming, but something has sure as hell changed. Ha. I've lived in Michigan my entire life, and as of two days ago, we don't have any snow left. We've had 60 degree days, warm spring rains, and tornado warnings. Can the earth "tip over", or shift its position (besides the everyday revolutions)?

samboct -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 10:37:46 AM)
Only in the movie, Damnation Alley.....where the last remaining garden spot was- are you ready......Troy, NY.

greyarcher315 -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 11:04:37 AM)
OK, i don't believe in man made global warming(and if You research the science on both sides You will find there is still quite an arguement, even though some will deny that there is any doubt.). That does not mean we should ignore recycling and searching for cleaner ways to provide power, it just means we shouldn't be in panic mode. The thing that really scares me about people determined to fix the problem is that no one is looking at the possible adverse outcomes, as is normal for humans trying to make corrections to what they see as problems. Everything needs to be looked at very carefully before we make more of a mess than we have now.

ChainsandFreedom -> RE: GLOBAL WARMING. (1/10/2008 12:09:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: greyarcher315 OK, i don't believe in man made global warming(and if You research the science on both sides You will find there is still quite an arguement, even though some will deny that there is any doubt.). That does not mean we should ignore recycling and searching for cleaner ways to provide power, it just means we shouldn't be in panic mode. The thing that really scares me about people determined to fix the problem is that no one is looking at the possible adverse outcomes, as is normal for humans trying to make corrections to what they see as problems. Everything needs to be looked at very carefully before we make more of a mess than we have now. 'fighting' climate change means using less resources than we are now and putting less wo/man-caused chemicals into the atmosphere. Using less resources makes economic sense-recycling in the 40's had nothing to do with climate. Using less oil would simply mean we could be more picky about which dictatorship we buy it from, and not be screwed at the pump anytime the chinese or indians buy cars in a game of catch-up. And how could putting less pollutants into the atmosphere be a bad thing, if you support the argument that man isn't powerful enough to affect the climate? At worst, we'd zero everything out at let nature take its course. At best, we'd prevent the climate change which is melting greenland and turning Africa into a aid-dependant desert.

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