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sirguym -> If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/10/2008 9:43:45 AM)

I like girls; 'real girls', transsexual girls, cross-dressers, all sorts. Thankfully a lot of them seem to appreciate playing with me.

Occasionally I get messages, etc. from those who list 'Forced Feminisation' in their profile. 

I am not into violence, blackmail or cynical manipulation, etc. so I couldn't really 'force' a man to cross-dress if he didn't want to do it.

When they've persisted I've seen what I can do, because I genuinely like to help people whenever I can.

Sooner or later it turns out that he expects me to provide all the clothes, wig, make-up and other props, take all the responsibility, do all the work, with no commitment of his time or other resources, to achieve his dream. 

He will often appear naive, be touchy, and very prone to hostile messages and blocking if their view of themself is challenged

So I think they're best left alone until they grow up and get a better understanding of themselves and the scene.

I'd recommend to them that they go to a suitable pro-domme who specialises in that kind of thing who could help.

But the only time I did that it triggered such a spew of opinionated venom, that I'd not say it again.

I already have enough attention from girls who've always been girls, or already admit and accept they want to be girls, nowadays.

They have the clothes, everything else and go out of their way to be as attractive as they can be, without hassle to me.

I would guess the same is true of any other dom(me) who could help in 'forced feminisation' - they don't need to, in order to get girl playmates.

So now it is a 'red flag' to me, if it is their in the profile I won't even consider it worth replying to a message.

Though I guess from now on I may do so with a link to this thread! What does everybody else think?



SirMIkeSD -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/10/2008 9:52:54 AM)

You are not into it, so why waste your time, others maybe.  What works for one, maynot work for others.  I want my boys to be men, not girls so it would be a waste of time for me as well.  I have had a couple contact me and I just politely turn them down saying I am not into Fem men.

Mike




MissHarlet -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/10/2008 9:56:30 AM)

I have never understood how you can force someone to do something they want.. .... to me it is a way to not accept responsibility for their own desires.

I have not problem helping those that accept their desires to enhance their appearance .. but it is not something I seek or must have. 

There are plenty of Dominants that enjoy this so I either pass these by or suggest they keep looking if they contact me



stripmymanhood -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/11/2008 9:31:06 AM)

i think too often we get caught up in the dictionary definitions of things...i mean...we didn't come up with the names of these things, even if we use the term to describe the things that flip our switches...i've mentioned on other threads, the term 'enforced feminization' would probably be better suited to what it really is...but can we please stop nitpicking on the use of the word forced??



fluffyswitch -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/11/2008 10:05:12 AM)

what works for you isn't always going to work for other people and vice versa.

if you don't want to interact with them don't.

and i have actually seen it work outside of a pro domme situation, my most previous domme used to force it on her husband. he didn't go in kicking or screaming but she controlled everything about it, including making him go in public like that.

and honestly, most people get touchy to some extent if their view of themselves is challenged. it just varies in terms of how vocal they are about it.



tasha_tart -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/11/2008 8:03:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sirguym

So I think they're best left alone until they grow up and get a better understanding of themselves and the scene.

I'd recommend to them that they go to a suitable pro-domme who specialises in that kind of thing who could help.



I couldn't agree more.  It's something that you're not into, that you aren't equipped to indulge, and that you just don't want to do.
 
In general, if someone lists "loves XXX" or "lives for XXX" in their profile, and XXX isn't nearly that high on your list of interests, then there are going to be compatability issues.
 
Tasha



sirguym -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/12/2008 5:38:33 AM)

Thanks folks, your input has clarified my thoughts.

Yes, I have come across 'true forced feminisation' by a domme wife as a cure for an uppity sub 'topping from the bottom' husband.

It's a lot more difficult for a man to assert himself in a discussion over who does the ironing whilst wearing a pinny!

I can see the same technique could be used too by a male Dom with a sub male SO.

Maybe it would still have worked if they'd declared they wanted 'forced femisation' from the start; but I'd now recommend to anyone who'd like to go down that route to say something along the lines of; 'I want to show my submission to you in any way you may choose; and if you want me to be a girl for you, I'd be happy to do that for you.'

But neither is my situation.

I have no problem with a girl who says, 'help me be a better girl'. I do that often.

But if they say, 'make me be a girl' I will leave them to find their own way.

If pushed to explain, I'll give them the advice above, rather than say, 'what you want is a nonsense'; which I can see is as rude as it is unhelpful.

Only yesterday I was in touch with a girl who wanted me to be her Master. What came across was that she wanted to submit to a Master far more than she wanted to be a girl. It transpired that she'd only so far explored submission with a TV Mistress who'd encouraged her to cross-dress.

So I suggested she may have at least as much fun as a male Dom's 'boy' without the hassle of 'dressing'. Particularly as there seems to be far more such Doms looking for a boy, than there are Dom(me) looking for a t-girl.

(S)he replied that he hadn't thought of it that way and would try, as it seemed very logical.

I will be interested to hear how she gets on!



iwearpanties -> RE: If 'Forced Feminisation' is in their profile, are they worth any consideration? (1/13/2008 5:25:07 AM)

SIRGUYM

you've brought up very intresting subject here . Can  you honestly  Force sone one to dress ?  as a sub male i will amitt this has crossed my mind and ive had fantasys about haveing to dress and being put in female clothes by a Male Dom / Master . This can truely be a form of  humiliation and degradeing a sub male but i feel any who have and do and are cds   may not be passable still no matter what they tried on or worn deep down they may want and crave this form Male Dom / Masters .   I go as far as too say haveing ones manhood or male ego  taken away from them is what i think many cds, panty bois or tvs secretly seek or want or even crave how ever they dont know how to or in what trems to say this toa Master /Dom Male.. I feel  more males want to try this but are scared  and embrassed about admitting it so useing the word or term ( Forced)   can and or may help ease there minds and help them realx and in there the subs mind there doing this for you but deep down they want to more then you may .  As  for my self i had and was a panty-bra wearing non -passable submissve long before i ever knew about   B/D  and subing . I m big on the make up or wigs asmuch as i am the silkys and softness of the panties n bras and slips and things how ever if i was asked too or a Mistress wanted me to wear make and wigs i did that helps make the sub feel the Dom / Dommes seek this too ....For me i had the want toofeel the shame / humiliation  of subing too a Master while in fem even if i knew he wasnt going too forec me too dress but i wanted too feel all of these for my own but i also was willing too allow him to enjoy me as the sub thur what ever means he wanted as well  how ever there was no sexual play but the spanking and Bondage and other thigns he did alwasy had me in the mind set that if he wanted he could of would  take my manhood away even if was only ina play session ...  i think this is what most or many seek when asking or putting ( Forced )  into there profile ....



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