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Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 1:21:34 AM   
Feric


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My girlfriend and I are both new to the BDSM scene and could use some advice.

What are some good introductory moves? She desires complete submission: to be told what to do, how to act, etc., but since we're both newbies we're unsure how to proceed.

Since she's expressed a desire to be totally helpless, I was thinking about securing her to the bed, blindfolded, and subjecting her to some dermal sensations: feel of steel, feathers, etc. Is this a good introduction? If not, can you suggest something.

Yes, I feel foolish for asking, but to paraphrase Confucius, "He who does not ask a question is a fool forever."



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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 1:34:34 AM   
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Well, this is the first response and you will get many more from people more qualified than me but here goes. The only "good" introduction is the one you two figure out works for you. What you have suggested is good for a VERY light introduction. Is your woman into pain, if so nothing you have stated inflicts any. Prehaps securing her over the footboard for a spanking? A little breast play? You may want to explore roleplay, such as rape fantasy, if both of you are into that sort of thing. Its all about what both of your needs and wants are.
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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 1:38:29 AM   
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The best person to advise you is your girlfriend!  Seriously,  talking to her about the detail of what she'd like to try is going to pay dividends.

Tying her to the bed for some sensation play is fine.  Starting slow and easy and building up slowly is a good way to go.  However nothing anyone else can suggest will be better than discussing it all with her.

When I was starting out,  I found the BDSM checklist helpful.  We sat down and went through it, discussing what we each were interested in and how we felt about trying it all.  That not only gives you a list of what she is interested in,  but also an idea of the type of thing that might work.

Always worth remembering that whatever you try,  do it at your own levels and don't be influenced by how much/how hard others do it.

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 1:49:07 AM   
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What she desires, and what she can take, are two different things. There are no hard and fast rules, some want to jump right into the whole fisting/electrical play/ BDSM/etc. thing, some want to take it slowly.

I'm pretty sure she will let you know if she is uncomfortable with something. Try starting things off with a safe word, just in case you DO go further than she is happy with for a while.

I'd leave the extreme stuff until you have enough knowledge to do them safely.

Most of all, make it fun. It doesnt have to be all scowling and screaming, like you see in BDSM porn movies. It IS ok to have a giggle!! Good luck!!

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Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 2:11:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Feric


Since she's expressed a desire to be totally helpless, I was thinking about securing her to the bed, blindfolded, and



...then going to the pub!!! heehee

Seriously, do what *you* want to do. You'll know if your partner likes it due to her physical and verbal responses. I think the worse thing you can do is to have rules; it sucks the fun outta most things!! You should be bright enough to work out what's dangerous and what's not so just go with it. Tie her up, blindfold her and then look around the room to see what can be used. If it doesn't do anything, move on to the next thing. As an extra idea, get a few of the larger knives/implements from the kitchen (let her see them), blindfold her then use something gentler. :)


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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 5:48:34 AM   
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The BDSM checklist is a great place to start.  You can both complete it, then sit down and have a fun, comfy discussion about what you both think you may enjoy.  Just google 'bdsm checklist'.  If you find an activity you might both enjoy but you're unsure about because it's new for you, just google it or do a search here on the boards - you should find info on it.  Good luck!

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 6:56:52 AM   
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I agree with the checklist. Go lightly at the start then build up to what the both  of you can handle. Like Miss Magnolia said it is ok to jiggle I mean giggle. Sorry eyes must have wandered.

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 7:11:55 AM   
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Agree with the checklist as mentioned by several in here. The list is a brilliant way to start the communication about desires, wishes and "what it is?" The key word is communication. The more you talk about things the deeper you both get into what both of you desire and are able to manage for now. Also communications sets up goals and visions for both of you.

Fell free to ask and contact any time.

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/11/2008 4:59:56 PM   
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I'm a bit confused here. The original post is talking about total submission as a way of life AND as a purely sexual sensation. If you are looking for a purely sexual sort of thing, you're already on a good track. Tying someone up is just about the easiest way to make them physically helpless.

If this is something she craves as a way of life, there are several simple things you can do. They may not all be practical for your situation. After all, most of us live in the real world, and even those who don't are subjected to it from time to time. However, all of them can fit into your lifestyle in varying degrees.

You're talking about helplessness and total submission. These are psychological issues more than physical ones. They are control issues, so what you might want to consider are ways to assume control of her life.

1. Control her money. If it's at all possible, don't let her even touch money, credit cards, the checkbook, etc. Money represents fiscal freedom, and without it, she will be entirely dependent on you for everything she needs. If she works, make her deposit her money in an account that you control.

2. Do not allow her to wear clothing at home without your permission. Lock up all of the clothing in the household, including shoes. Locking these things away is important because it denies her the ability to choose to wear them. Pick out her outfits for work, nights out, etc. and lay them out in advance. Require her to put her clothing into a container that only allows one way access immediately upon entering your home. As a woman without shoes or clothing, your home will become a quite effective prison. She will not be able to go out unless she has your permission, won't be able to answer the door if someone shows up unexpectedly, get the mail, or even feel comfortable opening the windows in some parts of your home. If you have visitors, decide whether she can wear clothing or not.

While it's true that she can do some things close to the house by wrapping herself in a towel or blanket, those things are very limited...

3. If you have a home phone, disconnect it and get 1 cell phone to keep with you at all times. Password your computer, and do not allow her access to the internet when you aren't home. If she needs access to the internet, make her leave the room while you log in. Find a way to lock up your television and any other mass media devices. Having no contact with the outside world will mean she must rely on you for every shred of information. (Except what she may get at work.)

4. Put all of her personal possessions in storage. Photo albums, teddy bears, dishes... whatever... it all goes. The only personal things to keep are hygene related items. This may sound pretty stupid, but it isn't. Ownership is psychologicly empowering.

5. Do not let her drive. Anywhere! Drive her wherever she needs to go. Do all the household shopping with her, drive her to work and pick her up. If she has to go to visit someone, drive her and either stay with her for the visit, or keep to a strict schedule of when you will drop her off and pick her up. In this way, you control her professional and social activities. Also, do not let her pick the radio station in the car. See #3.

All of that sounds pretty difficult, but it's really not. Simply put, these 5 things combined will make her entirely dependant on you. Without clothing, cash, information, or personal possessions, she is effectively helpless, while still having limited amount of freedom within your home. While it may sound like fun to chain her to the bed 24/7, it's also not safe or practical to do so without someone monitoring the home, which is probably something you don't really want...

Give her tasks to do to keep her occupied when you aren't home, and make sure that some of them keep her active and stimulated mentally. Although she is not allowed to touch the money, make her responsible for the household budget. Provide open-ended tasks with clear objectives that allow for her to decide for herself how to accomplish them.

Good behavior should be rewarded though. When you take her out to dinner, let her order what she likes, but do not allow her to speak, except in polite phrases like "please" and "Thank you" to anyone. Order her food for her. When she is good, bring her home perishable treats like fresh flowers or baked goods like pastries or her favorite dessert. Don't reward her with anything that can be saved for more than a few days before going bad. Most candy and packaged treats can be saved for a long time, which may become a substitute for ownership.

Like I said, some (or all) of this may be completely unpractical for your situation. However, if nothing else, I hope it will get you thinking about how you can make your situation work out.

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/13/2008 2:51:03 AM   
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If it's sexual, just explore and have fun. Build up your toybox. Brainstorm together until you get a handle on it.

If it's emotional / mental / way of life, tell her to kneel at your feet and call you Sir when you have company.

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/13/2008 5:05:46 AM   
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Wowie Zowie.... no clothes, no money, no things, no information, no driving....

I think the guy is taking BDSM 101 and you jumped right to the PhD program.

whew.

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RE: Introductory Moves - 1/13/2008 8:18:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SadistDave
If this is something she craves as a way of life, there are several simple things you can do. They may not all be practical for your situation. After all, most of us live in the real world, and even those who don't are subjected to it from time to time. However, all of them can fit into your lifestyle in varying degrees.


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