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MRandme -> The difference... (1/12/2008 5:35:10 AM)
What is the difference between a Master and a Dom? i know, it seems obvious almost. There is a lot of discussion about the difference (fuzzy as it is) between sub and slave but haven't seen this addressed. It is a question someone asked, so i asked a few Doms in IRC the question and Their consensus was that there wasn't any. They felt that the only difference was 'what He wanted to be called'. (Note that none of the ones i asked identify as Masters) Personally, i think the difference is in the amount of responsibility the D-type takes for His partner and Her actions. i'm just really curious to see what the response here will be. g

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 5:53:01 AM)
The difference between Master and Dom is the same difference as the one between sub and slave. Everyone on this board will have their own definition, and no one will be wrong. All you can hope for is to come up with are definitions that suit you and then be clear when using them with others. For me, Master is a title while Dom is a poorly abbreviated form of dominant, (which, to me, is an inclination). In other words, a Master is one specific type of dominant. To go just a bit further, both Masters and dominants are types of tops. Along side of Master, you have other titles, like owner. Along side of dominant, you have other inclinations, like sadist and fetishist. You find the same thing on the other side of the slash. I refer to the general category as bottoms, with titles like slave and property, and inclinations like masochist and submissive. Hence, one is a top (being, in general on the toppy side of the slash), a Master (if he has earned, or let's be honest, given himself the Title), and a dominant (if the like the domination aspect of BDSM) all at the same time. That's my way of looking at it, anyway. Doubt anyone on here views it the same way. Taggard

Evility -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 5:53:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MRandme What is the difference between a Master and a Dom? i know, it seems obvious almost. Really, now? Obvious? I think not. We can't even agree on what constitutes Master or Dom much less ageeing on the differences betwixt the two. I have found that bdsm is largely a self-indentifying entity. Since we don't have colored belts like karate there really are no standards. My submissive calls me Master and refers to me as her master so I guess I qualify as such, don't I? Applying the same logic - anyone who doesn't fit my mold isn't master material, right? See what I mean?[;)]

IrishMist -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 6:35:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MRandme What is the difference between a Master and a Dom? i know, it seems obvious almost. There is a lot of discussion about the difference (fuzzy as it is) between sub and slave but haven't seen this addressed. It is a question someone asked, so i asked a few Doms in IRC the question and Their consensus was that there wasn't any. They felt that the only difference was 'what He wanted to be called'. (Note that none of the ones i asked identify as Masters) Personally, i think the difference is in the amount of responsibility the D-type takes for His partner and Her actions. i'm just really curious to see what the response here will be. g The only difference is in what YOU and YOURS believe there to be.

Padriag -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 6:41:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty That's my way of looking at it, anyway. Doubt anyone on here views it the same way. Taggard Well now that you mention it... actually, that's pretty much how I look at it. [8D]

Rover -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 7:04:29 AM)
Are you talking online or real time? John

Asherdelampyr -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 7:19:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty The difference between Master and Dom is the same difference as the one between sub and slave. Everyone on this board will have their own definition, and no one will be wrong. All you can hope for is to come up with are definitions that suit you and then be clear when using them with others. For me, Master is a title while Dom is a poorly abbreviated form of dominant, (which, to me, is an inclination). In other words, a Master is one specific type of dominant. To go just a bit further, both Masters and dominants are types of tops. Along side of Master, you have other titles, like owner. Along side of dominant, you have other inclinations, like sadist and fetishist. You find the same thing on the other side of the slash. I refer to the general category as bottoms, with titles like slave and property, and inclinations like masochist and submissive. Hence, one is a top (being, in general on the toppy side of the slash), a Master (if he has earned, or let's be honest, given himself the Title), and a dominant (if the like the domination aspect of BDSM) all at the same time. That's my way of looking at it, anyway. Doubt anyone on here views it the same way. Taggard ^^Works^^

szobras -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 7:55:43 AM)
What is the difference between a Master and a Dom? Just label descriptors to me. I am a Dominant male, and Master to mine in my relationship.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 8:08:31 AM)
The world thrives on giving labels and titles. What you should go by is how the Dominant carries themselves and treats others. The ones who come on line here that are respectful and try to help others is a good indication that He/She is probably secure within themselves and are happy to help and pass on their knowledge with positive imputs. If you have to put a label on someone i would say that the wannabe's come on here and they don't respect others, they bash others and they claim to have a housefull of subs and know everything there is to know. They try to impress people by all that they have and how great they are, but in my opinion. If you're so great, you don't have to toot your own horn to get attention, others will do it for you. So take everyone on an individual basis, and if you need to title, call them what you feel they deserve to be called. Nicely of course.

SimplyMichael -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 8:51:08 AM)
I have known people who considered themselves "Tops" who inspired servitude in others far deeper than many who call themselves "master". I have known female slaves who were bossier than many dommes I know. They are labels, if you want to exist in a box created by someone else, be my guest. I prefer to craft my own.

MRandme -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 9:10:44 AM)
Thanks for the opinions... very interesting. i was not searching to define anything about my relationship with Master Rick. There is nothing ambiguous about it. This was merely an attempt to see what sort of answers such a discussion would generate. Everyone's mileage will vary, of course, as the labels differ for every single individual involved in such a relationship. To clarify, Rover, i don't suppose it matters whether it is RL or online. It's a matter of self-identification, just as my label of 'slave' is. Taggard, i agree pretty much with Your assessment. i do view the submissive spectrum in sort of the same way. Evility, i guess it is obvious to me in that the M/s relationship implies more control for the top and less independence for the bottom than the typical D/s one. i think, as some subs and slave tend to be very adamant that there is a huge difference between their roles, i expected the same sort of division among the Dominant types as well. It is very interesting to me that there does not seem to be one. g

CalifChick -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 10:03:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 The world thrives on giving labels and titles. What you should go by is how the Dominant carries themselves and treats others. The ones who come on line here that are respectful and try to help others is a good indication that He/She is probably secure within themselves and are happy to help and pass on their knowledge with positive imputs. If you have to put a label on someone i would say that the wannabe's come on here and they don't respect others, they bash others and they claim to have a housefull of subs and know everything there is to know. They try to impress people by all that they have and how great they are, but in my opinion. If you're so great, you don't have to toot your own horn to get attention, others will do it for you. To the OP of the thread, regarding this... If you feel some masochistic urge to label everyone around you, that is. But know that it is only your definition, and not their definition. Cali (shouting into the wind)

MadRabbit -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 10:07:13 AM)
A Master has a self important superiority complex and a dominant is just naturally an asshole. (Just kidding!) [:D]

MadRabbit -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 10:09:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 The world thrives on giving labels and titles. What you should go by is how the Dominant carries themselves and treats others. The ones who come on line here that are respectful and try to help others is a good indication that He/She is probably secure within themselves and are happy to help and pass on their knowledge with positive imputs. If you have to put a label on someone i would say that the wannabe's come on here and they don't respect others, they bash others and they claim to have a housefull of subs and know everything there is to know. They try to impress people by all that they have and how great they are, but in my opinion. If you're so great, you don't have to toot your own horn to get attention, others will do it for you. So take everyone on an individual basis, and if you need to title, call them what you feel they deserve to be called. Nicely of course. I would read some of the responses to this poster's past posts and consider how she is regarded in several threads before taking this advice.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 10:24:10 AM)
And, as always, do remember that a single person can be a sub, slave, bottom, top, dom, master, daddy, mommy, boi, and more :) http://www.collarchat.com/m_605383/mpage_1/key_master%252Cdom/tm.htm#606932 Ms vs Ds http://www.collarchat.com/m_794045/mpage_2/key_kinky/tm.htm#794460 Ds vs bdsm http://www.collarchat.com/m_486719/mpage_1/key_master%252Cdom/tm.htm#486891 from dom to master http://www.collarchat.com/m_271859/mpage_2/key_master%252Cdom/tm.htm#272880 dom or master Master vs Dom http://www.collarchat.com/m_1344099/mpage_1/key_dom%252Cmaster/tm.htm#1344239 when is he a dom or master?

Jeffff -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 10:33:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CalifChick quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 The world thrives on giving labels and titles. What you should go by is how the Dominant carries themselves and treats others. The ones who come on line here that are respectful and try to help others is a good indication that He/She is probably secure within themselves and are happy to help and pass on their knowledge with positive imputs. If you have to put a label on someone i would say that the wannabe's come on here and they don't respect others, they bash others and they claim to have a housefull of subs and know everything there is to know. They try to impress people by all that they have and how great they are, but in my opinion. If you're so great, you don't have to toot your own horn to get attention, others will do it for you. To the OP of the thread, regarding this... If you feel some masochistic urge to label everyone around you, that is. But know that it is only your definition, and not their definition. Cali (shouting into the wind) Cali , Cali Cali..............the REAL difference is...........Master has 6 letters........Dom has only 3 Jeff

cherrypez -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 11:04:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 If you're so great, you don't have to toot your own horn to get attention, others will do it for you. I think the answer is in this quote. If you are a Master you have someone kneeling and tooting the horn. If you are just a Dom, you want someone to toot your horn instead of tooting it yourself.

AquaticSub -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 12:30:33 PM)
In my experience and what I've seen... The number of letters. People have their own reasons for using these "titles" and Val and I just kinda use them all. He's master, dominant, owner, sir and phishie. [:)]

AquaticSub -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 12:32:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MRandme Evility, i guess it is obvious to me in that the M/s relationship implies more control for the top and less independence for the bottom than the typical D/s one. Really? It isn't obvious to me at all.

cherrypez -> RE: The difference... (1/12/2008 1:23:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: MRandme Evility, i guess it is obvious to me in that the M/s relationship implies more control for the top and less independence for the bottom than the typical D/s one. Really? It isn't obvious to me at all. Me either!

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