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Bastinado - 8/27/2005 9:09:20 AM   
kingrichard089


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Status: offline 		One thing I've noticed in BDSM communities is that there is little reference to bastinado (foot flagellation). One might find a definition tucked away in a list or two, but it is rarely listed as an interest or discussed much.

This is strange to me because there are communities and sites devoted solely to bastinado. Many foot-fetish sites touch on it. Also the more extreme BDSM sites tend to touch on it pretty regularly. But in the general BDSM community it's almost non-existent.

I was just wondering if this is because there is no real interest among most folks into the scene or if it's something that most people just never think of.

I've found that the communities that focus on it often have a lot of members from the middle-east. This isn't really too much of a surprise because in the middle-east bastinado is the primary form of spanking and most of their BDSM interest gravitates toward the feet.

Bastinado is my primary interest where BDSM is concerned. I've introduced it to just about everybody I've topped and haven't encountered much aversion. But it seems, when I check out communities or events and such, my interest in bastinado is almost a completely separate thing from my interest in the rest of BDSM. I guess it'd be nice to merge the two as one really is just a component of the other.

Just opening some discourse, I guess. . .


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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 9:25:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well there's a huge kink on sticky-stuff but its a rarely referenced type of play.

First off, things with the feet generally HURT A LOT, it generally isn't for the yummy endorphin of back or ass flogging. Secondly, the grand majority of scenes out there are the typical "hit and whip front and back" and don't deviate terribly much.

But it certainly does happen. Sticky play is very messy, elaborate and takes a lot of chemical know-how, flogging just takes a good half hour lesson before you're pretty good to start practicing.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 9:35:32 AM   
kingrichard089


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Status: offline 		Sticky stuff, eh? Now that's intriguing. Just when I thought I'd heard of 'em all. I guess you've got me there, Emerald. Good insight. Thanks. :)

KR

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 11:22:25 AM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		I love bastinado. It's one of those "hurts so good" things for me. Master frequently spanks, straps, and lightly uses the cane on the soles of my feet.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 1:03:58 PM   
CitizenCane


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Status: offline 		All true, and it's also really easy to seriously injure the feet.

Cane

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 2:04:45 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: CitizenCane

All true, and it's also really easy to seriously injure the feet.

Cane

It is. Which is why perhaps many people stay away from it.

I actually love administering bastinado because of the fact that for most, it is something they have not experienced before. I also like the reactions I get from it. I like to mix it with feet tickling. Just make sure you have a good gag handy because the mix makes for very, very loud noises.

My feet are perhaps the most sensitive part of my body. I’ve had lovers give me orgasms through foot massages. I do enjoy, when playing with a skilled sadist, to be on the receiving end and it does become quite the yummy endorphin rush. Actually, it's quite exhilarating. Maybe it’s because it was most often administered by a Middle Eastern Sadist. ;-)

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 2:10:37 PM   
Elegant


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Status: offline 		I love having my feet caned but it is something Master has researched so as not to cause permanent injury. In addition, it's not something he allows others to do to me unless he knows their experience.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 2:47:22 PM   
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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 2:56:05 PM   
Sweeticing


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Status: offline 		Ive seen lots of profiles that say they are into this type of stuff. And have seen it on here usually not as a forum thread just thrown out as something they are into.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 9:19:33 PM   
synrgy33


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Status: offline 		Gosh!! I too love having my feet caned, spanked and single tailed. We were at a play party recently and Dave Sir had a longer cane, tapping the inside of my legs down to my feet for me to raise one of them. He said He stood back and watched my face while He caned my feet and actually could tell when i had my first orgasm. (well first orgasm during that part of the scene, lol) He said it was very cool.

We found out I loved that by accident really. We were camping with friends and I had my legs crossed, one foot higher then the other when He was digging in HIs toy bag, He lifted out a slapper paddle hitting my foot with it and I about creamed the chair. He was like "oh you like that do you" and I just purred, so He did it further, and then later a friend single tailed my feet. Grossed some people out I t hink, as they think of caning of the feet as extreme coroporal punishment.. but for me it's INTENSE pleasure!!!!!


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RE: Bastinado - 8/27/2005 10:24:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		When it comes to feet, I like to massage them for tenderizing before I bite them. A good clean foot is a healthy foot. Dirt, sand, fungus, and poop in my mouth are very bad things

It's just not healthy for me to have a dirty foot in my mouth.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/28/2005 12:10:02 AM   
kingrichard089


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Status: offline 		FeetNFangs,
I like you - you're funny - I knew that of all the people in this community I had to at least get a response from you - but I didn't think it'd be the silliest one. :)

KR


Thanks for all the responses from everybody - it's nice to know there's any interest at all.

I guess, as far as the BDSM scene goes, Milwaukee is a pretty sheltered place - I hear the munches and events are far more interesting in other cities - 'round these parts, one doesn't hear much about anything beyond the basics (although I met a guy who was into quicksand once - that was something).

In response to the danger factor - yes there is a danger, but it is often exagerrated (I'm sure I'm gonna' hear it for that comment). The most common thing pointed out is the amount of little bones in the feet. Well, you certainly don't want to use a baseball bat or anything, but most whips and lighter canes are ok. It's not really necessary to hit very hard because the feet are very sensitive, so the likelihood of damaging the bones is pretty negligible as long you're keeping things "safe and sane" as we all should (unless the sub has brittle bones for some reason, which is something the dom is hopefully aware of). The more thin or boney the sub's feet are, the lighter the implement should be, of course. Like anything else in BDSM, you remain mindful of what and who you're dealing with. And, of course, avoid hitting the tops of the feet with a cane because, naturally, all the bones are right there close to the surface and, not as self-apparent, it's far less erotic.
The other thing I have heard discussed, as far as safety goes, is the finding that repeated beatings to the feet can break up the fatty tissue in the soles leading to future problems with the feet, ankles, and calves. This is true, but the studies are more related to the torture-type beatings administered by police and military organizations in the middle-east (bastinado is still one of the most common forms of torture of the world). But, of course, I'm really not suggesting this sort of behavior with your sub.
So it's really more a danger of submitting to a stupid top, which can be a problem no matter where they're hitting you. I guess I'm not really trying to downplay this, but I've seen more panic about the danger than interest in the topic since I've been involved in BDSM. I've whipped a lot of feet in my life and have never left anyone crippled or otherwise hurt. I guess I'm just trying to illustrate in this little chunk of text (without coming off as being snide or confrontational) that I'm not a stupid top and that I trust most of the active, posting tops here are likewise not stupid. I was afraid that when I opened this discussion, I would get lots of lectures about how the feet are forbidden instead of just finding that there was more common interest than I was aware of. Anyway, I'm rambling. . . The point being, potential danger aside, it's nice to see that there's more interest than I previously thought and I appreciate everyone's comments.

My intention was to open discussion about a topic that I seldom see discussed, but that is at the core of my interest in BDSM and I'm happy to see that this has happened.

KR


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RE: Bastinado - 8/28/2005 9:58:16 PM   
FangsNfeet


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FeetNFangs,
I like you - you're funny - I knew that of all the people in this community I had to at least get a response from you - but I didn't think it'd be the silliest one. :)


I'm glad you got a laugh out of it. Would you like to have another giggle?

Out of all the things I've done to ppls feet, My experience has told me that the absoulte number one torture to feet has been tickle torture. This ofcourse excludeing what the Mafia and the inqisition can do to feet. But yes, simple tickleing by feathers, fingers, and my tongue have driven my subs more wild than needle play, biteing, whiping/caining, steping on them, as well as Ice and Fire play. As odd as it may sound, tickleing has always been the last thing that a sub has ever wanted me to do to there feet.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/29/2005 1:00:12 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		When you go to a party what do you see? Spanking and more spanking. Stand up and be spanked. Lean over the chair and be spanked. Over the knee spanking. For good reference you may have your hands cuffed to bend over the chair to be spanked.

At a really diverse party you may actually see someone yield a flogger.

How often have you seen anyone perform bastinado? Not in demo form either.

That is the reason why I believe. People just don't know what it is. Those who do are into it deep from what I've experienced. Those I've known into it have never harmed a foot yet.
If a person never gets off the computer to live anything out are they going to know anything about the lesser known forms of play?
Even those who do, who only attend parties may never know either.

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RE: Bastinado - 8/29/2005 5:55:10 PM   
ProtagonistLily


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I was just wondering if this is because there is no real interest among most folks into the scene or if it's something that most people just never think of.


Well, I think it's out there, people practice it but you don't see it as much in the 'public' scene because it's not flashy. In my experience, people tend to do the things they don't have room for at home in a public dungeon setting. If I'm out with Sir, and we have 25 foot ceilings, he can swing a long flogger or whip where he can't at home. I think it may be a case of 'why waste 25 foot ceilings on bastinado when I can use all the long toys?"

I could be wrong, but smaller, more intimate kinks tend to be done in a more private setting simply because larger spaces are conducive to activities folks may not have the space to do at home.

That's my 2 cents,
Lily

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RE: Bastinado - 8/31/2005 10:42:18 PM   
kingrichard089


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Status: offline 		Interesting Lily - never thought about that - but at shows & such I've seen more violet wands than anything else

I actually found lots of references to bastinado on bondage.com which I stumbled across earlier today - can't join the discussions though without subscribing to the "premium services" - oh well. It's good to know there's more of it out there.

sub4hire - that's cool that you've known people into it - I don't run across many

FnF - yeah, tickling rocks. It's my second favorite thing to do with feet. :)

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