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seeksfemslave -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 5:14:48 PM)
Some classical music makes me shed a tear. So so beautiful ! Dont make a big fuss about it tho' lol Funnily enough I do feel a sense of relief afterwards.

kdsub -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 5:58:47 PM)
Just wondering… do you think gay men or women has different general emotions then their sexual counter parts? Hell if so what about us bisexuals…we must be all messed up. Now just myself I have emotions like a man…strong ones… so maybe sexual preferences have little to do with emotions. Butch

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 6:22:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Just wondering… do you think gay men or women has different general emotions then their sexual counter parts? Hell if so what about us bisexuals…we must be all messed up. Now just myself I have emotions like a man…strong ones… so maybe sexual preferences have little to do with emotions. Butch gender identity and sexual preference are 2 different things

kdsub -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 6:32:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Just wondering… do you think gay men or women has different general emotions then their sexual counter parts? Hell if so what about us bisexuals…we must be all messed up. Now just myself I have emotions like a man…strong ones… so maybe sexual preferences have little to do with emotions. Butch gender identity and sexual preference are 2 different things Hi lusciouslips 19 Yes they are but opposite what is considered the norm... could this be a brain difference in the same way men and women differ?

Griswold -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 6:41:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Some classical music makes me shed a tear. So so beautiful ! Dont make a big fuss about it tho' lol Funnily enough I do feel a sense of relief afterwards. That song a few years ago (you're from the UK I think, so maybe it wasn't played there)...it was on a VISA commercial...I'm sure it was Puccini. I don't know the exact name ("O' my bambino" or something like that)...I swear...I hear that song...and the solo/aria (sp?) that follows....and I fucking lose it....I start bawling like a baby. (Now...let's be very clear....a manly baby...with lots of hair and overflowing testosterone...and very thick {but carefully cropped} toenails....and I'll kick anyone's ass when I'm crying....but...a blubbering baby nonetheless). (Allright....I admit it...that song goes up...and I'm a weak kneed sissy baby bawling my eyes out looking for my binky). (Shhhhhhhh). Quiet now gawdammit!

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 7:01:02 PM)
I do believe its probable the the hormonal cocktail for those who are female but more butch or trannnies or flamboyant gays that seem more like women are different than regular folks. But that is still more gender identity. I am bi but very feminine and girly.I love men and will play with girls. Screwed up? heck no. Just more open to all sex has to offer.

kdsub -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 7:28:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Some classical music makes me shed a tear. So so beautiful ! Dont make a big fuss about it tho' lol Funnily enough I do feel a sense of relief afterwards. La Wally by Sarah Brightman does that to me... if in the mood. Butch

charmdpetKeira -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 7:36:21 PM)
Along with the other things I said earlier, I believe people's emotions are largely affected by their language; that certain words, and combinations of words, cause trigger responses in people, according to their perceived experiences and their perception of those experiences. The problem with the saying “sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me”, is, it doesn’t explain why it shouldn’t hurt me. I used think it was because words aren’t physical so they can't hurt, but the truth is, words can hurt. The question is, should they? If I look at a criticism and find there is no truth in what is being said, then I can deduct that the issue lies within the perception of the person criticizing; and that is when words can’t hurt me. I also agree with Lusciouslips19, in the idea; if someone grows up being shown love and allowed to express emotions, they will continue to do so and teach it to others by example. The trick, is teaching them to do so in a constructive manner. k

Muttling -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/14/2008 10:49:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira Along with the other things I said earlier, I believe people's emotions are largely affected by their language; that certain words, and combinations of words, cause trigger responses in people, according to their perceived experiences and their perception of those experiences. The problem with the saying “sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me”, is, it doesn’t explain why it shouldn’t hurt me. I used think it was because words aren’t physical so they can't hurt, but the truth is, words can hurt. The question is, should they? May I present another possibility to you well developed thought on the subject....... Language and words have no meaning. It is memories and concepts of what could have been that evoke serious emotional pain for me. I am not without emotion and do react to normal things, but some things go far beyond. Those are the things that resurrect painful memories and the things that bring back to question actions that I already question or regret. In response to the OP, I'm not sure what part of this is male or female. I have been told that my personality (not my sexuality or personal identity) has strong traits of both sexes. It is who I am and I embrace it for better or worse.

charmdpetKeira -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/15/2008 5:36:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Muttling May I present another possibility to you well developed thought on the subject....... I would be interested in hearing an example of this. Doesn’t have to be an actual experience. quote: Language and words have no meaning. It is memories and concepts of what could have been that evoke serious emotional pain for me. I am not without emotion and do react to normal things, but some things go far beyond. Those are the things that resurrect painful memories and the things that bring back to question actions that I already question or regret. I’m glad you said this; it is the type of emotional overload I mean, when I say I am trying to eliminate it. My response, in situations when this happens, has only a small amount to do with what is going on at the moment. The rest is built up from, as you said, past memories. I think instead of language having no meaning though, it speaks more to the defining of words by one’s memories. The upside, as I am finding, is; with reasoning, I am learning to separate the “myth” from reality. k

JDEmpath -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/15/2008 6:24:19 AM)
In fact, one of the things Chomsky discovered was that virtually all cultures had a similar propensity for the development of language to solve similar problems of the need to express things. This was found the be the same, no matter where the culture was. Language, it seems, is just a personalized way to express things which are wholly common among human beings.

DesFIP -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/15/2008 6:52:34 AM)
He should be a rock for me to lean on when I'm falling apart. And I should be a rock for him to lean on when he is. Both of us should be adult enough not to take out our emotions on others. Meaning if you had a bad day, you don't come home, commit spousal, offspring and animal abuse. Either physically or verbally. People should have sufficient self knowledge to identify their emotions. And then articulate it. Say "I'm angry or frustrated", don't stomp around or sulk like a toddler.

charmdpetKeira -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/15/2008 9:41:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Both of us should be adult enough not to take out our emotions on others. Meaning if you had a bad day, you don't come home, commit spousal, offspring and animal abuse. Either physically or verbally. People should have sufficient self knowledge to identify their emotions. And then articulate it. Say "I'm angry or frustrated", don't stomp around or sulk like a toddler. I’m not sure if this was in response to what I had said, or a fast reply, but believe what I said could be interpreted in this way, so to clarify further. The situations I am referring to are ones where a response is justified, but due to an almost instantaneous wave of emotion, the urge to react with similar force, at one point and under certain circumstances, was unstoppable. Mainly, because I didn’t understand why it was happening, and at the time in my life when I was just finding my voice to speak up at all. Most situations however, resulted in a bottling up of emotions; how to deal with them effectively is something I have had to learn as an adult. I think it is important to recognize that what constitutes physical and verbal abuse is subjective to the individual, in any given situation. I would also argue who is abusing whom, in the face of verbal abuse. None the less, I don’t blame the young, nor uninformed for their inabilities; and I don’t expect perfection from anyone. That being said; I thought being an adult was recognizing these things happen, working toward dealing with them better (an ongoing process), being able to admit when it does happen and being able to apologize for it. A battle for both sides of the fence. k

vampchick88 -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/15/2008 12:35:08 PM)
A True man to me is one who can be compassionate, loving, cherish his girl, talk to, work out problems in a calm way, understand, and be the very best that he can be. Before I met rubberpet I'm sad to say I believed that all men would treat me like a piece of meat, never try to really understand me, or just want to be used with me as a Domme...no other relationship. I've learned that a man can have similiar needs as a woman such as, need to be needed, wanting to be loved, appreciated, cared for when ill, along with protecting what they care about. What makes a man male is the ability to show these things. Not to hide them afraid they may be looked down upon. There is nothing like being held tightly in the arms of a man when you've just had devistating news. Having a shoulder to cry on and somone to listen to you. Somone who doesn't care what others think of him, who is his own individual. ~M. Lorelei

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/15/2008 3:29:56 PM)
You might want to look at the studies of how the genders process, and display emotion differently. While perception is great, understanding the why's gives a better understanding of how the two may interact. quote: ORIGINAL: JDEmpath I am directing this question primarily at women, although anyone is welcome. What do you think is considered acceptable levels of emotional sensitivity in a man? Does his lower or higher degree of emotional sensitivity make him less of a man in your estimation, more of a man? When you compare his demeanor with women, do you make a distinction in what might be appropriate behavior in response to certain things? Are men expected to respond differently to social issues such as acceptance, rejection? Should they be considered a "rock" upon which to lean while you are overcome by emotion? And of course.....why? Thanks in advance... JDE

Feric -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/17/2008 8:17:37 PM)
I am continually amazed by the persistence of the stereotype "Men don't cry", which is flat-out untrue. Until the last century or so, the sight of tears in the eyes of men were not only accepted, but highly prized. Knights of Yore frequently wept when regarding the courage of their opponents on the field of battle; they wore their emotions on their sleeves because that was the custom. George Washington wept when he dismissed the Continental Army at the end of the American Revolution; Napoleon was moved to tears by his losses in the Russian campaign; Winston Churchill cried at the sight of the Coverntry Bombing in World War II; hundreds of American veterans have wept at the sight of the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial; and who could forget Ed Muskie weeping in the snow as he was defending his wife's reputation during the 1972 campaign? The key factor that is constantly overlooked is that today's men traditionally regard crying as an intensely private thing. This has not always been the case. To weep in public is seen as a betrayal of that "wall of privacy", and those who do so commit a faux pas. Personally, I think that's a limiting factor--restricting men to act in a certain way, but that's just me. Do men cry today? Sure! Talk to any father who has had to bury his own child.

kdsub -> RE: Emotions: What makes a man male? (1/17/2008 8:28:32 PM)
Feric... well said... I hate to say it but the older men get the more tears we shed. I don't know why that is... maybe a drop in testosterone... but it sure happens. Butch

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