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Self improvement - 8/27/2005 9:23:44 PM   
ApociaKaoi


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Hi, i'm a long time observer of this site, and a first time poster. I am a submissive slave and pet to an outstanding Mistress, one whom I plan to marry one day if she will still have me by then. I am senior in highschool and am planning on joining my Mistress in an off-campus residence come next year's fall semester. This is where the problem presents it's self however. My Mistress is breaking off comminucations between the two of us, minus live journals to reassure each other that the other is safe, and has reserved herself the right to date and become sexually active with other people during the course of the year. She says that we may get back together at the end of the school year, once we are closer to each other, if she does not get into a serious relationship and if I get accepted into her school or a nearby one (TCNJ or Rowan for anyone who is curious). While this may seem rash to some it is to help us, and more to the point, help her see qualities in me that were destroyed at the very begining of our relationship, something that has done quite a bit of damage to it. I have changed for the better in the past half a year, give or take a week or so, and only have myself to blame. I have done everything I can for her, and am ready to do more......Now i'll get to the point ^_^;; Sorry for the rambling, just wanted to paint a nice picture for everyone, and perhaps to tell somebody the full details of the situation.
During this year I want to improve myself greatly for her so that I can not only impress her, but be able to fufill all of her needs. She has a nice variety of tastes when it comes to our Dom/sub relation, but tends to lean toward to the basic inflicting of pain upon me, prefering actual sex to be between us as mates than anything else. We have both agreed that I should clean and cook for her, though I am still learning alot of recipies. I suppose that I am asking for any advice anyone can give me. I know that this may anger a few people, and I apologize to those who are annoyed by this post. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and have a good day.
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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 5:58:02 AM   
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I can only hope that your efforts will be recognized and worth it in the end. A year is a long time to go without any guarantee that things will work out.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 6:14:43 AM   
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I read your other post aswell and think its not a good idea. You say she said you may get back together and she is going to be dating people.

Its just seems like she is wanting to explore and if nothing better comes along she will come back to you...

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 7:51:05 AM   
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Yes, I got that too for a long time, but I remembered all of the promises and talk about marriage from the past. We have gone through so much together, and still hold so much love for the other. I dont think that I could ever throw that away. I cant understand her wanting to enjoy her first year of college without the restraints/limitations that our love will put on her. Do to how often we used to cum with the other, I can also kind of see how it would be hard for her to give it up having someone else to cum with as well. Lastly, and sorry if I am making anyone mad with this long reply, the year away is my fault as well. She wants to see qualities in me that she lost in the begining of our relationship, where I was too unsatisfied with myself and stretched the truth a little, I cant bring myself to say the direct word, on two or so things about myself. Though I have spent the past half a year trying to make up for that, and doing everything that I can, it obviously wasnt enough.

Sorry to be so difficult. I really, really do appreciate the replies, they mean the world to me. Thank you for your concern, and just thank you in general

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 8:03:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

I can only hope that your efforts will be recognized and worth it in the end. A year is a long time to go without any guarantee that things will work out.

Be well,
Julie


I have to agree is it any gaurantee....and it is a long time. But in answer to your question

"During this year I want to improve myself greatly for her so that I can not only impress her, but be able to fufill all of her needs."

Any improving you want to do has to be for you and you only....you first and formost need to be happy with yourself and change things about yourself that you are not happy with.....not to impress someone or be something your not. Being Submissive or whatever is because its you....what your comfortable with, happy to be doing, and living or playing the way YOU want too. If the changes you make pleases people in particular then thats a bonus.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 8:33:17 AM   
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We never know where things will bring us. But, right now, your Mistress wants you to cook and clean for her. This is the service she wants at present. Be the most dependable and best cook you can be; clean so that she is totally pleased.

In the mean time, build your "inners." Help yourself to get stronger and balanced (mentally, physically, spiritally) and learn the world around you (connect with other lifestylers and have friends). i have learned through my present Master that one can only serve to their best when their own life is in order.

Just another thought, although you love your Mistress, be mindful of your dreams. Please remember that no one can be someone's world.

i really wish you well. Your email touched me.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 9:25:02 AM   
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Good luck.

To me, it sounds like something I did with boys in high school all the time. Just stringing them along because they weren't what I wanted and I was too immature and bored to really care.

Only you and your mistress know your relationship. If it's really worth waiting a whole year, then kudos to you for finding something special.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 10:39:50 AM   
ApociaKaoi


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Thank you for all of the replies, especially DeSade401smo. That was exactly what I needed to hear to make it through this year. Thank you all for your concerns. I have a hard time expressing how I truly feel, but no matter how my replies may sound, I am taking everybody's advice to heart. I really am glad to know that alot of my suspicions arent just me, and that others feel the same way, but at the same time knowing that if we can make this work, then it will be more than worth it. An accomplishment that's effects will be felt for the rest of our years. Thank you all for your wonderful, replies. I hope that I can help the rest of you as much one day.


Back to the self improving though, does anyone know where I can learn more about cooking besides self-teaching?

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 10:58:06 AM   
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ApociaKaoi:

- I cannot recommend the Miss Abernathy's Concise Slave Training Manual strongly enough. She has some very practical tips and information that can be used by any submissive or slave wanting to do some 'self-improvement'. She has another training book as well; search on Amazon.com or Greenerypress.com by her name and you'll find it.

- learning cooking: Get cable, and watch Alton Brown's "Good Eats" on the FoodTV / Food Network channel. he not only discusses the Hows of cooking, but the Whys as well. If cable isn't an option, he has two books available through Amazon.com. "The Joy of Cooking" is a foundation cookbook that should be in every cook's library.

- learning other sorts of things: Most community colleges have 'self-improvement' courses: Everything from ballroom dance to how to write a resume to cooking. Community colleges are usually fairly reasonable. (Example: I was able to take three semesters of Middle Eastern ("belly") dancing at once community college. It has paid off. ::wink::) There are a LOT of community resources that folks don't think to check, that are low cost or free.

- Visit your local library. See what programs are available. Commit to learning something new every month. Or reading a new book on a totally new topic. Many bookstores have a 'employee recommends..' section. "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." - make that 'learn' or 'explore' !

- Buy a video on Tai Chi or Yoga (or check the aforementioned community college / YMCA / etc). Something that teaches grounding and centering, as well as self-awareness of your body. The flexibility and conditioning benefits are well worth it, too.

What you invest in yourself pays off for the rest of your life. Do it for *you*.

- sabis

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 12:34:41 PM   
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I'm afraid I have to agree with the others who have replied on this thread regarding the circumstances you have outlined. You are very likely being strung along and may well find yourself with a hole in your heart and a lump in your throat before it's all said and done. However, being not so very far removed from you in terms of age I know that these kinds of lessons must be learned through your own experiences and often times your own pain.
Walk this path as you see fit to walk it and here's wishing you the best of luck.

As for the matter of self improvement I think you may be falling into the trap that many subs/slaves fall into regarding efforts to augment their skills and capabilities. Namely, you are trying to better yourself in order to please someone else. Any efforts to better yourself must be done for one person and one person alone, you . No matter how hard you work, no matter how hard you try to learn more, do more, become better; so long as your efforts are focused upon the goal of pleasing another you will never be as successful as you will if you are trying to please yourself. You are worth the kind of effort it takes and you owe it to yourself to be the very best you that you can.
Self improvement with the goal of making someone else happy is a highly destructive path to walk. Perhaps T.S. Elliot said it best "the last temptation is the ultimate treason, to do the right thing for the wrong reason."

Now then, once you have the proper reason for self improvement clearly in your heart and mind you can begin walking the path. It has been my experience that mentality has a lot to do with the success of such efforts. You cannot simply seek to learn one or two new skills with the goal of becoming a better whole (though learning how to cook is a nifty skill to have. Your profile says you're from Louisiana. I can think of few places with a more exciting and distinct culinary texture). Go into this with the goal if improving the whole you; mind, body, and spirit. This is the path of excellence and few possess the strength or the will to walk it, but if indeed you are one who does then truly you are a blessing wrapped in flesh. Keep that fact in mind at all times and just as you have been blessed with so much raw potential and the burning desire to become the best person you can be you owe it to the one who gave you these glorious blessings to serve as a blessing in the lives of everyone around you. Seek not to serve only your "Mistress" but all human kind. Love yourself and the world around you, and display that love through your conduct.
Walk the path of greatness with a joyful heart, a focused mind, a passionate spirit, and a humble tongue.

Once you have embraced these concepts you will be ready for the last step you must take in order to begin truly bettering yourself as a whole. Are you ready? Ok here we go:

I want you to take a moment to close your eyes and think of all your self described flaws. All the reasons why you can't be as good as you might like. Bring to mind all of your limitations. They are different for everyone, but I want you to focus upon yours. Think about how maybe you're not smart enough, not strong enough, not attractive enough. Gather up all these self imposed restraints upon your own growth as a whole being.
Once you have done this I want you to say the following words:

Fuck em, fuck em like a scanky prom date. Fuck em like I have no intention of calling. Fuck em like I didn't even give my real name. To hell with all the excuses I've called reasons for far too long. Limitations be dammed, they are nothing more then illusions that I have allowed to act as walls and I will no longer accept them. I will actively deify each and every last one of these manifestations of self hatred and never again will I allow them to hold me back.

Felt good didn't it?
Now that you have left behind all the reasons why you can't earnestly strive for excellence it will be time for you to begin walking the path.
You mentioned that you were in school, that’s a perfect place to start. I don't know what kind of grades you have made in the past, but from here on out you should make nothing lower than an A. Even as I say this you may be thinking about all the "reasons" why you can't make a 4.0 this (and every other) year. If indeed you are, STOP IT! You have left all of your limitations behind remember. You may also notice that I put reasons in quotation marks. That’s because they aren’t really reasons, they are excuses and you are far too bright a young gentleman to tolerate excuses from yourself.

In addition to knocking all your classes out of the ballpark and learning how to cook there are also a number of other ways you can improve yourself:

Do you smoke? If so, quit.
Do you work out? If not, start.
Do you watch TV or play video games for more than 10 hours a week? Cut that down to 5 hrs a week.
Do you read the news paper? Start doing so.

Will Mary Landrieu be successful in her next bid for reelection? (Landrieu is the Democratic Senator from Louisiana and likely faces a tough battle in her next campaign)
Who was the best classical composer of the 1700's and why?
What’s the best wine to serve with a light dinner that includes fish as a main course?
Will the Saints win the NFC South this year? (Ok I'll give you this one for free. No, the Carolina Panthers will win the NFC South but the Saints might make the playoffs as a wild card :-P )

In addition to everything else listed you should be able to answer each of these questions, and be able to explain and support your answers. Cultivate the ability to discuss nearly any subject with some level of knowledge. This not only enriches your human experience but it also makes you a very pleasant (to say nothing of impressive) young gentleman to spend time with.

In what little spare time you have you might consider getting involved in a MUNCH group in order to become more knowledgeable about the lifestyle in general. In doing so your service will be greatly improved.

In closing I know I've thrown a lot at you, but I always want to encourage someone who seeks to better themselves. The truth of the matter is that I am nothing less than obligated to do so. I have been blessed enough to have countless wonderful people in my life who have been willing to pour their time and energy into helping me walk this path. The majority of these glorious individuals required that I repay them by swearing on my honor that I would simply "pay forward" the gifts that they had given me by taking the time to help another when an opportunity to do so arrived.
I don't know you and you don't know me. I'm young in this lifestyle and in the world in general but I've worked hard to pick up as much wisdom and insight as I could. What I have offered you is just what I found to be successful for me as I endeavor to improve my whole being. In the end you must find what works best for you.

With that said, should you find any of the ideas I have put forward here to be of use to you in your own development I will require from you the same repayment that was demanded of me. I think you will find that it is one of the few times in this life where you are made richer in the course of paying a debt.

Respectfully Submitted
dk

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 1:08:14 PM   
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I've been thinking about this a -lot- because I can imagine getting into a similar situation.

I've come to the conclution that I think this isn't a good way to conduct a relationship, because it -isn't- a relationship. It's asking somoene to do something that you have no intention of doing, while not actually promising to ever get back together.

I am a firm believer in the bdsm double standard--the owner gets to do what they want, the owned doesn't. However, I think this only exists as long as the relationship is mutually fufilling. This relationship doesn't sound that way.

I think that you might want to put some serious thought into this commitment and decide if it will fufill you. Will you be satisifed witha partner you cannot contact? That you cannot be close to? I think that ownership is wonderful, however the most -critical- part is that everyone is fufilled. I belong to my partner. He can do what he likes with me. Hoewver, I am fufilled by this. I think you should do some soul-searching and -realistically- decide if this will work for you.

To be very harsh, it sounds like she isn't interested in you as a primary, but likes having a safety-net partner in case she doesn't find someone else she likes. I appologize for the horridness that sounds.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 1:19:15 PM   
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With so many people pointing out alot of my old fears then I guess that I need to take time to consider them instead of throwing them away in fear. I have to go spend some time with the family, and will consider this heavily. I'll get back to all of you tonight, thank you so very much. It means the world to me that you are all giving me an honest opinion.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 1:49:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: perverseangelic

I am a firm believer in the bdsm double standard--the owner gets to do what they want, the owned doesn't. However, I think this only exists as long as the relationship is mutually fufilling.


Argh. Yeah, how does one express that exactly? What the sub wants is not what s/he wants (exactly, precisely). What the sub wants is what the dom wants? (is that universal?)

~ Elektra

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 3:12:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ElektraUkM

Argh. Yeah, how does one express that exactly? What the sub wants is not what s/he wants (exactly, precisely). What the sub wants is what the dom wants? (is that universal?)

~ Elektra



For me it comes down to the fact that as long as the relationship is mutually satisifying, it doesn't have to be -fair-.

My parnter can stay up as late as he wants, and send me to bed at six pm. He can eat what he wants and tell me no more sweets. It's not fair. It -is- satifying for me.

When the satisfying and fufilling part isn't there is when there's a problem.

Dunno if that's articulated any better.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 6:52:43 PM   
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Once again I feel that I must thank each and every one of you for your inspiring, and very very helpful comments. I still dont know what I will do, nor have my feelings for her have changed, but I can honestly say that my outlook on this affair has changed for the better, thanks to all of you. I am in debt to you all...

Denimknight....Thank you....Thank you so much, and from the bottom of my heart...I wont give up on her, and I will still wait this year, probably longer, but I am going to start living the rest of my life for myself. Funny thing is....She did encourage me to do things for me from time to time, but I always passed them off as something else that she wanted. While I have been told that we cant be together during our college years if we go to seperate colleges, or atleast colleges that arent close to each other, but...I dont know anymore. Your words have inspired me more than any other. She wanted me to go to the college that I wanted, but I think knew that I would go to one of the two near her or that she was attending. I still love her, and doubt I will ever stop, though realistically it may become a different type of love. But...I cant even describe it...Thank you so much...

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RE: Self improvement - 8/28/2005 7:04:21 PM   
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I do have another question now though....Is it possible that I have loved my Mistress too much? Is that even possible? I have spent the majority of the past year replacing my old dreams with dreams of me and her together as husband and wife, mates, sub and dom/slave/etc. Now I am wondering why I ever stopped being ambitious to be a United States Marine Corp. officer, or an archeaologist. At the time it was due to going off to war with her left to be worried, and not having enough money, the field really only paying if you discover/find something amazing. I was becoming a Chem. engineer for money. Anyone else ever have a smiliar experience.

Off topic, if anyone ever wants to talk off collar me I would be honored. I have a really busy schedule coming up, but would love to talk to many of during free time, perhaps even become friends. ^_^

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RE: Self improvement - 8/29/2005 2:27:24 PM   
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I cant stress these things enough, this situation is my fault. I fucked up, and she is recovering from it. She not only has the right to do what she wants, she deserves the right. I tried to make that more clear earlier but I failed. My Mistress is truly a saint people, she has stood by me and put up with more than she ever had. I have tried to put this as obvious as possible without outright saying it, but I feel that I must now. So here it comes:

I did not think of myself as a good person, and definately not worthy of anything, much less something as her. I could try to say this in my own words, but someone else's hides no truth.

"Over 50% of the things that came out of your mouth were lies" Not only was I lying about to her about it hopes of me becoming that person for her, but to myself. I was literally living in a dream world where I believed that life existed...I never lied about my feelings though. Understandably she was/is hurt, and while he have gotten along since then, and still been as cute as ever, some wounds close hard, for both of us. Think about it this way, I couldnt say it directly untill it was pointed out to me that the bad picture of her. This year off is for us, and to see what else is out there. The mention of the sexual parts was in hopes that advice of how to deal with that, which there understandably was none. This year is here for me to prove myself, see "Self Improvement"

Old wounds have been opened as a result of this, so you will excuse me if I dont reply here for awhile.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/29/2005 8:43:22 PM   
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You are putting this person on a very high pedestal. I'm worried about what will happen when she falls off it.

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RE: Self improvement - 8/30/2005 6:56:28 PM   
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Once again, I must stress that this was my idea to make up to her. It is common for people to only cum for their mate when they communicate regularly. In my mind's eyes, our being apart should not stop this. She had no part in my deciding to do this except for encouraging me to reconsider many a time. She has always done what is right for us, and given me far more than I have ever deserved. Sad to say, I would have given myself the boot a long time ago had I been in her place. Yet she hasnt, in fact no one has ever stood by me, encouraged me to be all that I can be, and so on than her. I love my Mistress with all of my being, and have for a long time. Alot of you are starting to see that, but a few arent quite getting it. I appreciate the concern that every single one of you have shown, but in the end it all comes down to one thing. I have been a terrible mate/pet to her and I want to make it up to her. I can not stress enough how great a person she is, and how this was all my idea. Thank you to every one who replied, and for the few who pm'ed me with ideas and/or invitations to become friends, thank you thank you thank you. Have a great day all.

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