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Termyn8or -> RE: The Middle East Solution? (1/16/2008 12:12:44 AM)
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So sucide bombers are crazy ? The "cowards" who go blow themselves up to take out as many as the enemy as they can ? After our pushbutton heroes kill their families ? Have you been on Mars or what ?
That is a last ditch effort, it is done for all practical purposes because they have lost. They have lost because of US support for their enemies. Yes I am surprised it does not happen here more.
And in case you did not know, car bombs were invented in the US. Suicide bombing is a bit different, because they know if they ever get caught they would rather be dead. So they just stay in the car. Note that McVeigh did not. Note that he is dead anyway.
So why shouldn't they just stay in the car or truck ? Their lives are destroyed, family members dead, if someone did to me what was done to them I would drive the biggest car bomb to the most populated place I could, if the populous were my enemies. Wouldn't you ?
While I do not condone what they do, I do understand.
And, last but not least, where the hell is Mod11 ? That "raghead" term is clearly against TOS, unless I am reading something wrong here. Maybe she's busy, expect a mail though, unless I am the only one here who needs to follow the rules. I can't use any racial slurs against those "raghead's" sworn enemies, so it is patently unfair to allow you to do the same to them. Fair is fair, and she might be getting a mail from me soon.
I wonder now if it would be allowed to use the term "imperialist pig" to describe certain Americans. And if I gotta follow the rules, dammit everybody else had better have to as well. Raghead is the same thing as towelhead, and it is a sign of cowardess to deal from a position of authority. You assume the authority of the governmentd of the US and Israel ?
Imperialist. I'll just leave out the pig part. The Russians called us decadent, and the root of that word is not decade, it is decay. And they were right.
The chant goes on, "kill them T-Heads, turn it into a big glass parking lot" but anyone with a half a brain can see we can't do that without getting rid of our "closest ally" in the region.
Personally I am all for letting them all take care of their own problems.
And, to the guy with the new term "raghead" let me tell you something. You have just exposed yourself as an anti-Semite. Most Arabs are Semite, just different tribes. They may have had their own different diasporas, but they are more closely related to each other than anyone else. Each side of the Semitic equation has their full measure of will, ire, patriotism, loyatly to home and hearth, ambition as well as hubris. They fight over territory, we have a stable territory, we do not live that life and do not understand it.
We have never had what they had. Since 1959 we have had the same territory, and I might add that no foreign power has even thought about attacking even our most remote areas with the purpose of claiming them.
Add to that the fact that we are the only ones to ever actually use a nuclear weapon in a war. What do those two facts add up to ? We are the bogeyman. We are the bully. Those who think they know history need to do some studying, those who do know history, well, already mostly agree with me. Not all the time, but quite a bit. We are in the wrong here, of that there is no question. Those people are not crazy, they are exacting revenge. I would do the same, on either side.
But revenge only begets more revenge. The cycle has to stop. The bombings and the oppression must stop at pretty much the same time. And people start that, when possible. When big money has a stranglehold on the government of a country this can be difficult.
None of them can see the light. I don't mean religion, that is all but gone. I mean what would happen if one Israeli soldier, instead of mowing a Palestinian kid down the with the old Kalishnikov, just said "Git home". What if some Palestinian teenager has a Jew down on the ground and is about to smash his face in with a rock, but instead says "I can't do it, let me help you up".
Wars cannot be fought without people. As such the only logical conclusions are that people can be the ones to stop wars, and unfortunately the cost will be great.
I mean let them go into Iran and get the draft back up. I would hope nobody showed up at all. Like John Lennon said "What if they gave a war and nobody came". Unfortunately this leaves our guys who are already there in a bit of a pickle. Did I mention that this would not be easy ? May have somewhere down the line. Like having Ron Paul for a President, we cannot handle, at least most of us would not be able to handle such a drastic change. How many people work in the defense industry ? Those are damnear the only good jobs left in this country. What happens when two thirds of them are gone overnight ?
You think I am kidding ? Take a look around. I might be ready for it, but most hardly anybody else is. I do not have health care, I do niot want it, I do not pay them, I do not collect from them. If I am broke I will do something to not starve, I want nothing from them, and I have maneuvered myself into a situation where they get nothing from me. And that's the way I want it, I will never get any retirement of any kind, nor anything else.
I would be just fine with Ron Paul. Send them soldiers down to Texas so the ranchers can get back to making food for our people, instead of running things like Ranch Rescue.
It has been said that we are better at securing borders across the world than the ones right here. And that is true.
It is time to stop. This is madness, or is that MADness now ?
Hardly anyone is ready for the change back to living within the law, our own means, and the precepts of common decency (cite : Gitmo).
I think it is probably going to get worse for another twenty years before shit happens really, I'll be 67. I have no kids. Have fun with your worlds folks, I tried to tell you.
It is said that people who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. But you have to learn real history. You have to know things, find out things that were not included in your schoolbooks. If you have learned from fake or incomplete history, well, oh well.
It is not our freedom and democracy we have that they hate, it is our bombs. I remember a passage from a movie called Black rain.
"I remember when they dropped those bombs on us, it was not right. The rain was black (innacurate but close), and I will not be satisfied until every American child is hooked on heroin"
The story was about an international drug dealer, who held it as a labor of love. As a patriotic act.
You won't see movies like this anymore. And I must admit, that after the dropping of the first bomb, the second was totally unnecessary. And that is a fact.
And we were guilty, and reconstructed their country better than it had ever been, at least for our purposes. They have practically no natural resources there as far as fueling industry. They import almost everything, but they have a large labor pool.
Thus, many companies popped up.
Mitsubishi started making electronics and later, cars, but they were already big enough to have built the Zero bombers.
Tokyo Tse Chung Kogyo became Sony.
Tokyo Shibaru became Toshiba
Hitachi Denshi became Hitachi
Thenish, JVC was formed, which stands for Japan Victor Corporation. Remember that the inventors of COLOR TV worked for a statesdie company known as RCA Victor. They were closeley realted in the beginning, but no more.
And that is only one subject, televisions, something that we invented. Yes Baird invented it in England at almost the same time as Farnsworth here, but why were they now building it ? Back then we were as well, but the idea was, we thought we were so smart that "They can build these but they can't build those", again and again it has been our downfall to underestimate others.
In the case of suicide bombers, I imagine we underestimated the Arabs' love for their family and community. In the case of pushbutton heros, we have underestimated the US governments ability to brainwash people.
It is drummed into our heads all our lives that we are the greatest and smartest in the world, while nothing could be farther from the truth, well there are a few countries worse. But not many. As such we have the right to rule the world and tell people where and under what kind of government to live. We have an illusion of greatness, but the real greatness is long gone, and for that I am not happy. But I did not do it.
At age ten my work ethic was better than that of our "leaders".
This all disgusts me, I am ashamed and embarrassed by the actions of this government. Gitmo is not the half of it.The syphillis experiments, Bikini Atoll and the SUBSEQUENT exposure of US soldiers to radiation in New Mexico. The laws they write now, HR4230 comes to mind. No basis in the Constitution and wants to police the whole world. Who the fuck do we think we are ?
Enough for now, really enough. I'll be back.
T
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