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antipode -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/19/2008 4:39:28 PM)

There are no rules, there is no rule book. There is only what people do.



HardnRuff -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 10:04:03 AM)

I guess it depends on how the fear is related.. Is it fear from  being brow beaten?? A Brow beaten animal is of no use to any One.



HardnRuff -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 10:12:15 AM)

I think Fear is  from Coercive power.. This is the ability to cause a slave to have an unpleasant experience. It is also defined as the Power to Give OR withold punishments. It is also ascoiated with the use of force to gain compliance . The slave complies because she is scared of the end results and actions by the Master. But a Master also knows that a broken toy is no good to Him .



BabyKittyKat -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 11:42:00 AM)

I don`t think that fear is a good thing. I mean constant fear, not in the middle of roleplaying or something :) A subbie should be a subbie because he/she wants to, not because of fear. I`m naive, so what [:)] A relationship can`t be built on fear.



daddysprop247 -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 2:58:55 PM)

fear of my Master is certainly a vital part of our M/s dynamic. without it, i could not respect, worship, or adore him the way i do. i fear him beyond the normal fear of punishment or of causing disappointment...i fear him also because i know him well, and know that he would (and has) intentionally cause me serious harm. for our particular relationship this fear is healthy and good, because it helps to keep me on my toes and never get too relaxed and comfortable. but i do not submit to him out of fear, i submit to him because that is what comes naturally to me and also because my purpose in life is to please and serve him. the fear is just one more tool to keep me disciplined and balanced, as well as giving me concrete reason to revere him.



LordShadow -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 3:13:08 PM)

No never fear the Master...
Respect Him, serve Him...but you should not fear him.
What you should fear is that part of yourself that tells you that you have displeased.

Shadow
Ride Safe live Free



CalifChick -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 3:20:31 PM)

Did anyone else just hear "Don't Fear the Reaper" playing in the background??

Cali
(digs a little Blue Oyster Cult now and then)



ownedgirlie -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/21/2008 3:38:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Did anyone else just hear "Don't Fear the Reaper" playing in the background??

Cali
(digs a little Blue Oyster Cult now and then)



HA!!  Good one.  [8D]



LordShadow -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/22/2008 2:33:14 PM)

LOL...I love that song, fits my Home....WEG



tempest74 -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/22/2008 2:48:56 PM)

Live in fear, no.
The fear I have is like roller coaster fear...

the kind that you know is safe, but still gets you all excited and tingly...the kind that scares you a little because you know it's a little dangerous, but way down deep you know you're fine...you know it's fun, you know that everything that can be done to keep you safe has been done...but your stomach is still in knots and you're still breathing heavy and your heart is still racing before you climb on.

And when it's over, and the fear is gone, you can't wait to fill your body up with that same fear again.

*edited for spelling



aaminah -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/22/2008 3:13:06 PM)

greetings Master Honsoku,
in reply to the following quote.......
"Personally, I would prefer to inspire obedience through her desire to make me happy, her love if you will. Love is fickle though, and fear is not. There will be times when she just isn't "feeling the love". During those times it will be the "fear" which sees her through. She may not feel like making me happy, but she will do it because she doesn't want to make me unhappy. A healthy dose of both fear and love ensures obedience. She should fear him, but not be afraid of him. "

i think You worded it perfectly .......most of the time yes, i obey because i love Master and want desperately to please Him but yes there are days like You described above where i obey because i don't want to make Him unhappy. also another had said, it is because she is a woman of her word and there again, i can identify.....i do because i made the agreement with Him to do so. yes, i fear His displeasure and the consequences that could bring but i am not afraid of Him as a Man. He is my protector always.
well wishes ..........property of Master Shadow



RipTyed -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/22/2008 5:16:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LordShadow

No never fear the Master...
Respect Him, serve Him...but you should not fear him.
What you should fear is that part of yourself that tells you that you have displeased.

Shadow
Ride Safe live Free



Agreed.



Playmate4aDevil -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/22/2008 5:24:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

fear of my Master is certainly a vital part of our M/s dynamic. without it, i could not respect, worship, or adore him the way i do. i fear him beyond the normal fear of punishment or of causing disappointment...i fear him also because i know him well, and know that he would (and has) intentionally cause me serious harm. for our particular relationship this fear is healthy and good, because it helps to keep me on my toes and never get too relaxed and comfortable. but i do not submit to him out of fear, i submit to him because that is what comes naturally to me and also because my purpose in life is to please and serve him. the fear is just one more tool to keep me disciplined and balanced, as well as giving me concrete reason to revere him.

He would (and has) intentionally caused me serious harm??????   
 
Hurting someone - in bdsm play - even a broken skin flesh wound (which I have been the recipient of.. on occasion) isn't HARMING someone..( my wounds were errors on the Dominant's part - oops! and unintentional!!)
 
I was always taught - AND BELIEVE - that NO HARM should ever befall a submissive who serves.  Discipline is meant to bring immediate attention to a behavior that is undesireable .. Punishment is to correct behavior that is wrong.  (In both cases.. the couple should have decided together.. at the beginning of the relationship - what each could expect from the other..)
 
For the life of me.. I have no idea how FEAR endears a submissive to a Master..



splitboxers -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 12:17:47 PM)

There's only one guy I FEAR climbing into bed with, but it's the same guy I want the most.  And with good reason!  What's the best way to approach this guy and still survive?


http://www.cafepress.com/hunksport



KatyLied -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 12:29:48 PM)

quote:

that NO HARM should ever befall a submissive who serves. 


What if the submissive in question is a masochist; and the dominant a sadist?  Do you allow harm in that relationship?  Because that's what happens in that sort of dynamic and intentionally so.



Justme696 -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 1:04:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: splitboxers

There's only one guy I FEAR climbing into bed with, but it's the same guy I want the most.  And with good reason!  What's the best way to approach this guy and still survive?


http://www.cafepress.com/hunksport



why do you fear?



DesFIP -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 1:36:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: splitboxers

There's only one guy I FEAR climbing into bed with, but it's the same guy I want the most.  And with good reason!  What's the best way to approach this guy and still survive?


http://www.cafepress.com/hunksport



Actually my advice for a situation like this is therapy to discover why you are attracted only to people who are unhealthy for you.



celticlord2112 -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 1:59:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

that NO HARM should ever befall a submissive who serves. 


What if the submissive in question is a masochist; and the dominant a sadist?  Do you allow harm in that relationship?  Because that's what happens in that sort of dynamic and intentionally so.



Personally, I draw a distinction between "hurt" and "harm".  Inflicting pain hurts, but if it is part of the slave's personal kink, it does not harm.

"Harm" in my mind occurs whenever a slave is torn down, and made to believe she is less than she really is.  A sadist giving a masochist what she wants need not be tearing her down in the process.





CalifChick -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 3:21:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: splitboxers

What's the best way to approach this guy and still survive?


With football padding, a crash helmet, and a full body diving suit complete with oxygen tank?

Cali



Mercnbeth -> RE: Fear of your Master (1/24/2008 3:41:39 PM)

"fear leads to anger
anger leads to hate
hate leads to suffering"
---Master Yoda
 
no, this slave does not fear Master.  He has never done anything to cause her to fear Him.



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