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RCdc -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 4:18:04 AM)

I tend to see religion as similar to BDSM circles.
You get your proponants of one true wayisms
There doesn't seem to be any clearly defined set of rules.
There are lots of little cliques, groups and cults.
Protocol and tradition is a 'must' in some circles.
Most people recommend books of different kinds to read, all say different things, all come down to the same ending.
Name dropping is done on a regular basis, if it's not Jay Wiseman, its the Pope.
Some practise in their own home or environment, others say you can't truely be commited if you don;t attend a church or BDSM club/munch/play party.
You are expected to pay out financially.
 
Yup - pretty much on a par.
 
the.dark.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 4:20:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Being a Reconstructionist Jew, I am blessedly free from all this self loathing the rest of you suffer from. There is a passage somewhere, probably Leviticus, that talks about unnatural practices. Now most religious types think that homosexuality and BDSM are unnatural. But the passage doesn't say that, either in English or Hebrew, it just talks about how you shouldn't engage in unnatural practices. Us Reconstructionist types interpret this as not doing something that is unnatural for you.

Using this, it means a homosexual hiding his true self, getting married to a woman and trying to act heterosexual is sinning simply because he is not being true to himself. Using that same logic, someone who is wired for a BDSM relationship, but who gets instead into a vanilla one, making himself and his partner miserable, is being unnatural.


I just perved ya. I belong to a reconstructionist synougue in Evanston, illinois(chicago) and send my son there. We are not devout at all. But being raised conservative jew, I do appreciate the foundation my religion gave me and also camille65"s upbringing of being dropped off. I do that too. Where I belong you are accepted at any level you choose to practice.

Besides, I think its good to have something to reject when you get older!




Dnomyar -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 4:25:12 AM)

liciouslips are you saying that your rejecting me after all we have not been thru.




Dari -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 5:42:27 AM)

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It is the concept of Original Sin that i have a problem with, that all people have to bear the blame for Adam and Eve. my God isn't that kind of asshole. your god may vary. Instead of each baby born flawed and full of sin and if that child doesn't do this or that, its going into a lake of fire is just horrible to think about. Jesus said God is like my parents. my mom and dad would never disown me because of something my eldest brother did.


Ah, I see where you're going with that.  While I don't believe that we're born perfect (we make far too many mistakes that are true mistakes, not willful stupidity), I don't believe that God sends people to hell to burn forever whose only crime is to be born imperfect.  I couldn't worship a god like that anyway.






Dnomyar -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:05:56 AM)

If we were created in God's image how come we are not clones???




Justme696 -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:08:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

If we were created in God's image how come we are not clones???


good point

I think there is also a mixture between darwinisme and religion not? The best of both worlds...God created the world..and let nature change the appearance.




Jeffff -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:24:37 AM)

Let he , who is without sin, cast the first stone................
Let she who is filled with sin......contact me on the otherside

Jeff




Amaros -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:27:41 AM)

I've given a few people pause who were lecturing me on (hetero) anal sex with this one: 

The Bible says: "A man shall not like with a man as if he was a woman"

There's only one way that that is physically possible...




Justme696 -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:29:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

I've given a few people pause who were lecturing me on (hetero) anal sex with this one: 

The Bible says: "A man shall not like with a man as if he was a woman"

There's only one way that that is physically possible...


One would think they had only anal sex then with females?




MissSCD -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:37:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

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ORIGINAL: MissSCD

I don't think the Ten Commandments state thou shalt not commit BDSM.
There are parts some religions have to astain from; however, I have found the mix to work as long as you are true to yourself and your creator.
 
Regards, MissSCD


For those ppl who believe in Christianity. There is only one commandant.  The golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  I'm in deep shit now.  I have broken that one a few zillion times

BadOne


BadOne:
 
I had to laugh at that one.  Don't think I have not been there myself either.   You grow from it all.  What you are looking for is a ballance that results in the peace you know. 

Regards, MissSCD




Dnomyar -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 6:41:39 AM)

Is there a problem with having anal sex with females?  If you dont have a bag to put over their heads you have to turn them around.




OmegaG -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 7:45:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

oh "god" more to read


Assuming you've read a couple of versions of the Bible, here's a couple of articles for you:

Documentary Hypothesis (Jahwist source, Elohist source, Deuteronomist source, Priestly source, Julius Wellhausen, Book of Joshua, Richard E. Friedman), Jerome and the Vulgate, Torah, Tanakh, Midrash, Mishnah, Dead Sea scrolls, Synoptic problem, Biblical Hebrew, Biblical Aramaic, Coptic language, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Mary, Refutation of all Heresies, The Sophia of Jesus Christ, The Nag Hammadi library, Ecumenical councils, Saul of Tarsus, Authorship of the Pauline epistles.

Before you read any of them, though, order both parts of Lingva Latina Per Se Illvstrata.

It's a pair of books written in Classical Latin (yes, even the copyright information is in Classic Latin) that will take you from knowing absolutely nothing about Latin, to being able to read Cicero and the like. More to the point, it will give you the tools to process the Vetus Latina. If you wish, it might be useful to also visit the Franciscan Archive to order their courses on Liturgical Latin, as the Nova Vulgata is in a modern dialect, and may be of some interest to you. That may also be useful in correspondence.

Health,
al-Aswad.

P.S.: You'll of course need to go deeper than WP and these few books in order to get a good picture, but it's a starting point.


Wow.  Just wow.  You are my new hero.




OmegaG -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 7:47:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

What he most objected to was those who followed the letter of the law rather then following the spirit of the law.  He felt that people should know why it was good for them to follow certian practices and the Pharasise(sp) were more interested in dictating protocol for it's own sake.
I believe that's backwards: the Pharisees were more like evangelicals, they moved and lived among the people - Yeshua was a Pharisee, "the law was made for man, not man of the law". The Saducees were temple priests and had more to gain by enforcing the letter of the law and colluding with the Romans.


I may have gotten the Pharisees and the Saducees mixed up, wouldn't be the first time.  Thanks for the correction.




Amaros -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 2:11:26 PM)

The Pharisees are blamed for Yeshuas crucifixtion in the Bible, but it's possible that it was a frame up to take the heat off the Romans and discredit gonostic Pharisic sects, the Pharisics had no apparent motive. Wouldn't be the first time,




SubbieOnWheels -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 2:32:59 PM)

The Saducees thought that by following the letter of the law, they were "righteous." That meant they were right in God's eyes.

Since God is not a material being with a certain shape or physical characteristics (sorry, Michelangelo), being made in His image means (to me, anyway) having the same qualities and spiritual characteristics. For instance, I believe God is Love; that would mean that if I am in His image, I am loving. Now, the Bible says "God made man in the image of God." "Man" as in mankind. As a people, mankind has drifted from that original creation, and it is my goal to find out more about what God is and to realign myself to more closely resemble the "man" He created to begin with.




SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 2:35:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

 
And the #1 Reason there is no "Book of Jesus" in the Bible...
 
He wrote a great one but he's on a 2000+ year 'waiting for approval' from his Mod?



so DG really IS gawd?

[sm=ofcourse.gif]




girlygurl -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 4:45:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Let he , who is without sin, cast the first stone................
Let she who is filled with sin......contact me on the otherside

Jeff


LMAO
But Jeff, I already did. [8D]

girly




girlygurl -> RE: Some religions believe (1/18/2008 4:48:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19


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ORIGINAL: girlygurl

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The best thing about being raised Catholic.......it makes sex dirty..:)
Jeff


Oh Jeff.... I'm sure there's lots of things one could find to make sex dirty [;)]   hmmmm I wonder, what does it make me if I love dirty sex?

girly


The BEST thing about being raised jewish..........it makes all you non jews dirty...[:D]


I knew it!  That's why you like me luscious, it's cause I'm dirty! [sm=shake.gif]

girly




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