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Dnomyar -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/22/2008 12:13:02 PM)

Ok you givers line up. Im a taker.




Bamslilgirl -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/22/2008 12:21:37 PM)

All I know is, I'm 37 damn years old, & have just in the past few months been able to deepthroat. I know.........I'm pathetic. Go ahead & say it....it's ok. Bam says now that I give the best head He's ever had in His life. I love to take Him into my throat & hold it there, sometimes moving my head back & forth. It's also great to fuck my mouth with His cock, gagging & slobbering. But, unfortunately, my gag reflex always comes into play at some point. I hate that. Does A/anyone know a sure-fire way to stop it??????




DeliberateHand -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/22/2008 1:05:35 PM)

It's normal to feel embarrassed or ashamed by it.  It's normal for him to feel embarrassed for you and/or for Himself.  Talk about it.  you may find that He loves when it happens, but feels badly for you.  If that's the case, you both may find it much easier to deal with it.

His... thrusting through the gag may do wonders as well.

Good luck!




daddysprop247 -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/22/2008 1:21:13 PM)

my Master's greedy, in that he enjoys the feelings and sounds of a girl gagging and sputtering on his cock, but he also expects her to deepthroat it. before we met, it was nearly impossible for me to gag...i just didn't have the reflex, and men seemed to enjoy it. but with my Master that had to change. He taught me how to not let a gag effect my cocksucking or deepthroating...how to just let it come, accept it, ride it out, and never stop sliding that cock down my throat. and tho it's not his preference, he doesn't care about a bit of puke on his cock, as long as you keep on deepthroating and clean him well with your mouth afterwards.




DeliberateHand -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 7:35:48 AM)

Lovely.  Thank you for sharing that.




scottjk -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 10:17:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I have always enjoyed oral sex when it is taken from me.  On prior partners who were less than endowed, having a gag reflex seemed to work for us.  My former was larger than any of my previous partners and he could only get passed my gag reflex a couple of times.  Now that I am seeking again I want to know how to go about either learning to ignore my reflex, or is it ok to still have one.
So dominants out there, do you like to have your sub choke on your cock?  Or would you perfer to slide into your partners throat?
Submissives out there do you have tips on how to ignore the reflex?
Kyst



Okay,  I scanned this thread and it was all very interesting, good suggestions, but there's something missing. For years I've considered the gag reflex until I found something that was the real key. Some one almost hit it on the head (sorry for the pun), but missed it just off center...

What is the gag reflex?

The answer will surprise you. The gag reflex isn't a gag reflex. It doesn't exist. Now don't go getting the tar heated up and breaking out the feather pillows yet.
It's actually a swallowing reflex. Consider the mechanism for swallowing food. If we actually had a gag reflex, we'd have all kinds of problems at the dinner table. As soon as the food hits the back of our throats, we'd start gagging. Now if we do start gagging, it's because we're having trouble with the amount or consistency we're trying to swallow. Too big or not chewed enough, and it gets caught and the swallowing mechanism takes over involuntarily, either trying to push it down until the stomach muscles kick in to flush it out forcefully. Think of it as a safety mechanism. The trigger is that hanging bit of flesh in the back of our throats.

Now, to control it, you consciously swallow, especially if you start to gag. When the gagging starts, take control of it by swallowing, like drinking water. Takes a bit of concentration, so practice with whatever, dildo, frozen banana, whatever. Just remember you practice with something you can pull out reliably.

When some one talks about swallowing a cock, they aren't talking about the cock, they're literally talking about swallowing, at least the ones doing the swallowing successfully.

Usually, I've found the simplest explanations work the best.

Deepthroating without gagging is an act of actively swallowing, simple as that. Not just shoving it down.





caught4u -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 10:37:29 AM)

here's a good guide http://tdte.porkyhost.com/instruction.htm




quinnny -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 11:37:33 AM)

quote:

So dominants out there, do you like to have your sub choke on your cock? Or would you perfer to slide into your partners throat?


Yes




Missokyst -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 12:39:09 PM)

That is an awesome site!  Thanks!!!
Kyst




TMaster2 -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 3:52:09 PM)

Here's a good practice video -- go to the site and click on the Extreme deepthroat vid link in the player ;)

http://www.thetoyshed.com/videos/




Prinsexx -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 4:53:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I have always enjoyed oral sex when it is taken from me.  On prior partners who were less than endowed, having a gag reflex seemed to work for us.  My former was larger than any of my previous partners and he could only get passed my gag reflex a couple of times.  Now that I am seeking again I want to know how to go about either learning to ignore my reflex, or is it ok to still have one.
So dominants out there, do you like to have your sub choke on your cock?  Or would you perfer to slide into your partners throat?
Submissives out there do you have tips on how to ignore the reflex?
Kyst


tips on how to avoid a gag reflex:
1. pre-cum makes the perfect delivery medium
2 or when practising safe sex use tastless condoms.....mint flavoured johnnies make me gag even as the wrapper is opened
3 don't eat for a couple of hours beforehand and go thirsty
4 as you are now seeking, as you say,  ask for a longer rather than thicjer penis
5 make a hard ring of your fingers at the base of  his penis and make sure the penis is engorged as fully as possible and the harder it is the easier it slides down
4 slide the penis head slowly along the top of the inside of your mouth and make the transition of it as slowly as possible onto your soft pallate...this is where the gag usually gets triggered if startled
5 if the soft pallate experiences 'penetration' slowly, like masticated food being swallowed, then there is less likelihood of gagging
6 take the penis into your mouth at his point of no returm: and tell yourself the gag is a swallowing mechanism
7 take speech or singing lessons
8 learn to intone, scream, make voice from deeper within your body...and above all relax...it's just another hole to practice with





AlterEgo69 -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 5:37:25 PM)

In addition to the various techniques described here, I've had outstanding success using hypnosis (and specifically, post-hypnotic suggestion) to neutralize my partners' gag reflex. A bit of a disclaimer is warranted: despite the "everyone is equally hypnotizable" nonsense some hypnotists claim, people vary widely in their reshponse to hypnosis, and some people are more physically suggestible than others. Also, hypnosis can be effective in neutralizing subconscious brain-to-body connections, such as the reflex to gag or swallow, but hypnosis can't help with physical limitations of mouth or throat size.

For the devious-minded, an added benefit is that two post-hypnotic suggestions can be installed, giving the Dom the ability to re-activate the reflex on command, creating an intense and extreme reaction, which would obviously be appropriate only if both participants found it erotic and desirable. The hypnotic suggestion patter goes something like "From now on, every time your dom's COCK enters your mouth, the muscles of your throat will relax automatically. That's right, the part of you that tells your throat to gag or swallow will be automatically turned off when your dom's COCK enters your mouth. BUT... If you ever hear your dom say the words GAG HARD NOW BITCH while his cock is in your mouth, you will instantly experience an EXTREME gag reflex. Maybe more intense than you ever experienced before. This reaction will be extreme and severe, but for some strange reason you will love the experience and every time you have it you will want to have it again even more"

If anyone is tempted to see a hypnotist for this purpose, I would point out that a cheap, easy and fun way to find out how responsive you are to hypnosis is to go to a hypnosis stage show and volunteer to be in the show. Your cost will be a $20 cover as opposed to a $200 hypnotherapist's session fee. If you have a strong positive reaction to being in the hyp show, find a hypnotist to help you install suggestions like the above and have fun! Sad note to doms about how hypnosis really works: This just plain won't work unless she WANTS it to work when she is hypnotized. WILLING to do it for you isn't enough. Just a basic rule of hypnosis.

Hypnosis also has numerous other kinky applications, such as orgasm control ("...for some strange reason, from now on you will find it IMPOSSIBLE to orgasm until you hear your dom say the words CUM NOW BITCH!..."). A funny story - I used exactly that patter a few years ago, but forgot to cancel the suggestion or structure it to apply only when we were together. She loved it at the time, but called me a week later REALLY pissed off when she figured out the reason she had been unable to orgasm after a week of masterbation was that the suggestion was still effective and she could not cum until I told her to! Oops, my bad as the hypnotist for not structuring the suggestions properly. Fortunately it was a simple matter to re-hypnotize her and cancel the suggestion.

A.E. 
(a formally trained and certified hypnotherapist, although that's not what I do foa living.)




daddyslilgirl87 -> RE: gag reflex, good or bad? (1/23/2008 8:57:07 PM)

I do not have a gag reflex, and i sometimes wonder if that is good or bad. Master tells me over and over what a good girl i am for being able to take all of him down my throat. He says that he likes the fact that he could gag other girls, but that i more than make up for it in other ways. I guess there are pros and cons to gagging/not gagging. If you do, its a pretty hot reminder that your throat is totally getting violated, but if you dont, it is more pleasurable because you can focus on the oral and not on choking. But id love to put on a strap on and violate some hot young girls throat and make her gag on the size... so i dont know... im undecided




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