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RE: Habit - 1/17/2008 6:43:18 PM   
SubbieOnWheels


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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I aM pReTtY sUrE tHaT tHiS mAy WoRk WhEn ThErE iS dOuBt.
It MuSt Be HoW tHiS tYpInG gOt StArTeD.
KYST


Oh, my poor adaptive software that reads text aloud to me! That same software gets confused by the W/we and Y/you convention.

(It also has trouble pronouncing misspelled words, but I forgive them.)

If I miss capitalizing words I should (like "I") it's because my left shift key doesn't work well, and I occasionally miss it. But, I won't capitalize pronouns relating to dominants, unless I have a dominant in my own life. (Yes, I did it for a while, but I have decided it's not for me.)

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RE: Habit - 1/17/2008 11:33:23 PM   
adoracat


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Status: offline 		my ex husband broke my right wrist once.  when i fell and broke it again a few years back, it wasnt set properly, and so now i cant feel the two smaller fingers on that hand.  ANY typing is pretty damned hit or miss on capitalization, therefore i dont bother much about it.

except for Daddy of course.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 1:00:42 AM   
Justme696


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Status: offline 		When I started in the lifestyle, I came only on MSN forums. I had no clue about the etiquette of MAster / slave /sub relation.
In time of course you learn. Subs/slaves askign for allowance to talk to a Dom. And all nicnames of DOm(mes) with capitals...and sub always with small letters.
Somehow it made always clear who/was who. Owned people and their owner had tags, so one could see who belonged together.
It was not a bad system, because in the chatrooms they hadn't yet pictures and profiles.

Till last month, when I owned a girl, I and she used the tags too.

So there is way more to the capitals and such..it has a small history.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 1:27:00 AM   
PrizedPosession


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Status: offline 		Like Charlotte i am used to Microsoft fixing it for me, i know the lazy "me" generation and our dependency on others to fix our mistakes . But when i write note i take no care to capitlize anything and even then i rarely have ever capitilized "i" because it didn't seem fair that "i" was more important than "you," "(s)he," etc.
When i talk often with a dom(me) i use the capital letters when adressing them but like the OP sometimes it just happens when i type because usually i only talk to Master online.
But on a typical day i am very grammar oriented and anal retentive with spelling, or at least i try -hugs dicitionary and thesaurus-
Plus considering the job i want to do it is very crucial to understand the workings of the English language but sometimes its fun to just forget it and do it differently since i have to do it every damn in class now.
-bobcat


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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 1:57:05 AM   
LadyLolly


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Status: offline 		If you are trying to impress or show particular respect to a dominant that appreciates it - by all means, do the formal i , You thang.  In general "chat" email and posts it really isn't necessary.  The chat speak abbreviations drive me nutz though - smack of being lazy.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 2:24:02 AM   
Justme696


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Status: offline 		I myself try to use the old rules, which I learned in the beginning. But to be honost...I don't often notice when it is not done. It is not only the capital that shows respect, but the whole sentence used.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 3:56:44 AM   
OldManCoyote


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Status: offline 		Anytime you do a thing, genuflect, bow, say "love you", kiss the ring, peck on the cheek, eat your peas before your carrots, as a mindless rote then whatever meaning it had is lost. If you are going to do a thing then remember why you do it, ever single time, otherwise why bother with it?

I also spent many years playing on IRC so I got very used to seeing subs use "i" and always cap a Dom's nick, hell even the nicks themselves followed that convention; subs lowercase and Doms uppercase, along with the {collar} as well.

Different times, different places, different technologies all lead to different norms and "standards".

Ofcourse, AFAIK YMMV IMO.

roflmao.  :p


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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 4:09:19 AM   
Justme696


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Status: offline 		haha you oldie too :P

neah seriously. I don't mind..respect can be shown in many ways.
But soem habbits are nice but  not needed, it is more nostalgia

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 5:11:32 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: cherrypez

    I was told that it was proper and respectful when writing to use upper case letters when addressing a person who is Dominant.   At the time, since there was seldom a time that I would have a need to do this (before internet) I never had a problem with it.   Once I hit the net it became habit to do this, however the habit became so ingrained that I found myself doing it all the time, in the work place or even doing it to other submissives addressing them with upper case letters.
I have pretty much broken myself of the habit except when I speak to my own Dom.     When I am capping simply out of habit, imo it detracts from the original reason for doing it in the first place.   Thoughts?
  


Valyraen insists I submit to the English language. This means he gets no extra capital letters and I get no fewer. You will rarely see me give "master" or "dominant" a capital letter unless it starts a sentence or I'm talking about Master Fire. I am forbidden from using a lowercase "I" or not giving my name a capital letter.

If I slip and he catches a mistake in grammar, I am corrected.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 5:12:32 AM   
christine1


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Status: offline 		not a biggie to me...people have their ways of doing things and i don't think they necessarily need to explain them to anyone.   i don't think "perfectly proper in every way",  is imperative on a message board or chat room.  to each his/her own...

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 5:26:11 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrypez

    I was told that it was proper and respectful when writing to use upper case letters when addressing a person who is Dominant. 

i wasn't taught this so in a way i was disrespectful to every man who calls himself "dominant"/"master"/etc - however respect has to be earned and capping letter while talking to a dominant isn't one of them.  the only time i cap letters is when i'm talking about Daddy and/or SO - they have rightly so earned my respect.


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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 5:34:02 AM   
camille65


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrypez

    I was told that it was proper and respectful when writing to use upper case letters when addressing a person who is Dominant.   At the time, since there was seldom a time that I would have a need to do this (before internet) I never had a problem with it.   Once I hit the net it became habit to do this, however the habit became so ingrained that I found myself doing it all the time, in the work place or even doing it to other submissives addressing them with upper case letters.
I have pretty much broken myself of the habit except when I speak to my own Dom.     When I am capping simply out of habit, imo it detracts from the original reason for doing it in the first place.   Thoughts?
  
 I'm curious about this, who told you that it is proper and respectful? If I were in your shoes unless it was my dominant telling me that I wouldn't change my way of typing to appease strangers. There are a lot that follow your style of typing, and a lot that don't. Part of the issue I have with it is that how on earth do I know for sure someone is dominant, submissive or switch unless I get into a conversation with them?

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 7:25:54 AM   
Justme696


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrypez

   I was told that it was proper and respectful when writing to use upper case letters when addressing a person who is Dominant. 

i wasn't taught this so in a way i was disrespectful to every man who calls himself "dominant"/"master"/etc - however respect has to be earned and capping letter while talking to a dominant isn't one of them.  the only time i cap letters is when i'm talking about Daddy and/or SO - they have rightly so earned my respect.



I read often that respect has to be earned. But shouldn't it be that respect is given firstly to every one untill they don't proof themselfs worthy?
(just thinking uploud, propably it dependson what "respect" is)


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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 7:28:45 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		I believe many people mix 'respect' with being 'polite'.
I am not a supporter of 'respect must be earnt' - because to me, respect is not a commodity to deal with.
 
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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 7:32:29 AM   
Justme696


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

I believe many people mix 'respect' with being 'polite'.
I am not a supporter of 'respect must be earnt' - because to me, respect is not a commodity to deal with.
 
the.dark.

 
Yes that is a good posibility.
But when does oen earns your respect?

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 7:34:29 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		Isn't slash speak mainly a convention of chatrooms, just an on-line thing and sort of identifies the users are more on-line/chatroom lifestylers?  I find it (slash speak) ridiculous, but that is just my opinion of it.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 7:37:39 AM   
MissHarlet


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Status: offline 		I so agree that respect should be accorded everyone until they prove they do not deserve it... its the same with courtesy for me .. Im courteous to everyone until they prove they dont deserve it and it takes a lot or me not to be courteous even to those I do not respect as it bothers them so much that Im not rude to them <EG>

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 7:41:46 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		I believe the word is both misused and wasted.
For me personally?  Respect is not earnt.  But it is given.  Anyone who tries to earn respect or insists on being shown how important one is so they will give it,  is someone who has something to prove.  I do not waste such a precious emotion on anyone who has to prove anything.
Respect to me is as important as love itself.
 
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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 9:50:23 AM   
cherrypez


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quote:

ORIGINAL: camille65

I'm curious about this, who told you that it is proper and respectful? If I were in your shoes unless it was my dominant telling me that I wouldn't change my way of typing to appease strangers
It was my very first, dominant partner, over 18 years ago.   And yes I can see the whole basis of it, and I am far from knocking what other's do.   The point was for me it became so habitual that it no longer held any meaning for me unless I am showing respect simply for my partner.   I was curious I suppose if other's did it merely out of habit or complete respect.

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RE: Habit - 1/18/2008 10:12:40 AM   
domahpet


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Status: offline 		in typing, i dont capitalize a damn thing, unless i am talking to someone personaly, and only if i like them enough to bother going back and editing whatever it is i wrote.
when writing by hand (ow), i always use proper punctuation, thats how i was taught in elentary school, its a habit.
you should see how big my h and v are when i sign my name!
youd think i was domme for sure!

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