BlackPhx -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (2/1/2008 12:52:12 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tigerstyle One thing I'm coming to realize about this question is how deeply some subs perv on the idea of watching themselves be used through someone else's eyes. The question "what gets you off about hurting me" is asked with glowing eyes and panting breath. It's very odd to see someone looking at you and knowing that they are sort of projecting into your head to see themselves. I don't work that way, I'm not very concerned with the converse. I'm sadistic because I'm violent and I have a lot of anger, especially against women. I could call it "an energy", but I prefer to call a spade a spade. My sexuality is tightly linked with anger and its expression-and vice versa. Some subs may perv as you call it on that. For me the pain is selfish and unselfish equally. I like it, done properly I don't need anything else, no sex, no cuddles, nothing more than something to drink, to eat and lay on while I recover (pain dances can burn up a LOT of sugar and I am diabetic). I enjoy feeding Masters sadistic need and my own need for pain. If I am giving pain and trust me I can be equally Dominant and Sadistic (alpha female sado/masochist) when I am playing with another person, since Master doesn't switch, I can drink in that suffering with as much pleasure as I would get from a 100 year old Single Malt. Psychological, Emotional and Physical can all be combined to draw every nuance possible from my partner. Sex again unnecessary, the Dance is enough. Neither has anything to do with anger or violence. Those two sentences above disturb me in a visceral way as both Sadist and Masochist. That one would as Websters puts it act out of "strong feeling of displeasure and usually of antagonism" and violence an exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse to me, takes it from the controlled phase of psychosexual-pathology and places it squarely into the out of control pathway. The majority of us try to control what we do and do not endulge in the dance when we are angry. That path leads to damaged "toys", destroyed relationships and possible jail time. Strike me in anger and discover I am no doormat, conversely I will never strike someone out of anger, I will walk away first. May I inquire as to whether you often find partners who attempt to incite that anger, that edge of dangerousness and unsafety for themselves? poenkitten
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