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ThundersCry -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (1/30/2008 7:52:31 PM)

It`s love....plain...simple. Just a part of my...love.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (1/31/2008 12:38:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

For me it's not "perving" on the idea, it's wanting to have as great an understanding as possible of my Master's perspective.  The better I understand him, the better I can serve him.  And since I simply love his lust, I like knowing what brings him that lust.


The sentence I've bolded above may apply very nicely to your current relationship, ownedgirlie. Since that is apparently your thing I'm happy that you've found a place to realize it.

No one should imagine, though, that the bolded sentence would apply across the board. It is one of those claims which has the ring of self-evidence but happens to be false in  various sorts of cases.





I just saw this, Noah. 

I should clarify that I understand what he allows me to understand.  I most certainly do not understand everything there is to understand about him; that's where trust comes in.  But I do love seeing and knowing what brings him pleasure; it helps me handle more for him. 

I'm certainly not saying everyone should understand everything about their owners.  That's not for me to decide.




SailingBum -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (1/31/2008 4:35:27 PM)

Watching her take the pain for me...

BadOne




BlackPhx -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (2/1/2008 12:52:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tigerstyle

One thing I'm coming to realize about this question is how deeply some subs perv on the idea of watching themselves be used through someone else's eyes. The question "what gets you off about hurting me" is asked with glowing eyes and panting breath. It's very odd to see someone looking at you and knowing that they are sort of projecting into your head to see themselves. I don't work that way, I'm not very concerned with the converse.

I'm sadistic because I'm violent and I have a lot of anger, especially against women. I could call it "an energy", but I prefer to call a spade a spade. My sexuality is tightly linked with anger and its expression-and vice versa.



Some subs may perv as you call it on that. For me the pain is selfish and unselfish equally.  I like it, done properly I don't need anything else, no sex, no cuddles, nothing more than something to drink, to eat and lay on while I recover (pain dances can burn up a LOT of sugar and I am diabetic). I enjoy feeding Masters sadistic need and my own need for pain. If I am giving pain and trust me I can be equally Dominant and Sadistic (alpha female sado/masochist) when I am playing with another person, since Master doesn't switch, I can drink in that suffering with as much pleasure as I would get from a 100 year old Single Malt. Psychological, Emotional and Physical can all be combined to draw every nuance possible from my partner. Sex again unnecessary, the Dance is enough.

Neither has anything to do with anger or violence. Those two sentences above disturb me in a visceral way as both Sadist and Masochist.  That one would as Websters puts it act out of "strong feeling of displeasure and usually of antagonism" and violence an exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse to me, takes it from the controlled phase of psychosexual-pathology and places it squarely into the out of control pathway. The majority of us try to control what we do and do not endulge in the dance when we are angry. That path leads to damaged "toys", destroyed relationships and possible jail time. Strike me in anger and discover I am no doormat, conversely I will never strike someone out of anger, I will walk away first. 

May I inquire as to whether you often find partners who attempt to incite that anger, that edge of dangerousness and unsafety for themselves?

poenkitten 




Leatherist -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (2/1/2008 10:28:56 PM)

I guess it's really as close as I can get to being the cat with the mouse.

It's.....entertaining.[;)]




MasterSteel007 -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (2/17/2008 5:01:22 PM)

It just turns me on when a sub is exploding for me...uncontollably
especially. I love it!





MasterSteel007 -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (2/25/2008 7:59:50 PM)

I would say that whe I have her tied to the bed and I am fingering and tasting her nicely and she cannot move....
but is NOT in pain at all but extreme pleasure...
I am in ecstacy.
My blood punds a little faster and I get hard as a rock...Ready to ravish her and pound into the night...
If she orgasms to the point of squirting...
Even better...I know I have done my job well....




Leatherist -> RE: Sadistic Pleasure (2/25/2008 8:44:55 PM)

I just like to torment. Sometimes they come, sometimes they don't.

Sometimes I even care if they do. Maybe.[;)] 

It's more fun to keep them guessin.




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