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Stories, why ? - 1/20/2008 9:38:11 PM   
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I am not talking about someone fibbing about themselves. I am talking about the ubiquitous desire people have to watch, read or hear stories of other people's lives, whether they be factual or fiction.

What brings this on rather than an ambition or some kind of goal.

There was a time with no radio, no TV, newspapers weren't daily, and there wasn't a book in the house that everyone hadn't already read.

You might want to put down your beverage.

People used to have things happen to them, they could write memoirs, or they might go out and make something happen to them. In the case of a family they might learn or invent games. Once the work is done everybody needs some fun.

To cap the thought I am trying to express, which is not proving to be easy, how many books have you read about people reading books ? You know what I mean, it is rare to find these things. Same with movies, although I admit there are exceptions. In any type of media there are exceptions, but the story line is a bit hard to work. One notable exception is Last Action Hero mitt Aanold. It was a movie about a movie, sorta. You'll find exceptions all over the place but they are not all that common. Like radio shows about radio shows. They do exist but there are lot more radio shows, than radio shows about radio shows. (feeling a bit dizzy, are you ?)

Even though exceptions exist, if you are reading a book, the story is rarely about reading books. That would not be interesting because you are actually living it right then. You have no need to live vicariously through some author's mind. So it would most likely bore you.

What is this need for heroes and villians. I can understand the allure of a damsel in distress, in fact I'd like to have one :-) And yes I do enjoy pictures of bondaged up babes, and stories of that subject. That is my sicko side though, on the regular side I would rather read about people very different than me. I think most people are the same. Most not all, and I could be wrong, and there are exceptions.

HAHA, just thunk this up. There is no exceptions to the fact that there are always exceptions.

I would guess in a primitive society people would know what is going on with each other. Small communities and all that. When the motion picture era started, you might go to the cinema on Friday, perhaps not even every week. Now some people rent three movies a day. It's like an addiction.

This is not exactly keeping up with local current affairs. But is it possibly that innate desire that has been misdirected ?

For me, I prefer to hear from real people, like this, rather than what is put out for mass consumption.

Before the party yesterday, she says there is a movie she really wants me to see, but this came out of something we were discussing at my house. Some people, also friends of mine were coming over so they had to go, but I was pretty much automatically invited.

So she wants to play this movie, I told her I am all against it. I'll watch it, fine, but copy it or something so I can watch it late at night or something. Play a movie at a party ? I wouldn't want to wreck it that way. Real life was better than anything the screen could ever render.

And people wonder why I don't have cable. Sheesh.

Anyone out there like me, who just isn't interested in every story on the planet ? Who would rather live than to watch or read ? How many of us are left ?

T
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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 5:48:09 AM   
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Greetings and salutations.   I am sorry to wear out any welcome by being a 1st reply so frequently.

Being that the population is so big- one has little idea on the life tribulations of the neighbor or townspeople.  Indeed real life is stranger then fiction.

The larger question is why do we WORSHIP the tv set?

Some folks are so programmed that life IS tv.

A hammer can build a house or destroy a house- so to is a tv. [a tool, or not]

I would have put on music on the tv screen, low- so as to allow conversation. If a movie was insisted- something light that did not impose on the real life meeting.

Just think... people now want the tv neon god in the bathroom, in the car- even to carry around.

T, it is commercialisms wet dream to have shopping zombies plugged in 24-7.

So there ya go.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 5:52:32 AM   
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Nah T one thing I really don't understand is our current leaning towards reality TV.  Honestly watching ordinary people eat bugs or get in maritial disputes is beyond me as entertainment and it's very popular.  Stories that are moving or thought provoking or give a dramatic intepretation of history appeal to me.  There is something to be said for the release of losing yourself in a movie that's fantasy based as well.  However, I still love reading, it's just more time consuming and I often find these days by the time I get back to the book I dont remember where the hell I was.  That might be age though, haha.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 6:05:54 AM   
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Some days I watch my parrot or fish- and it is better then TV!   sooothing.   the world isnt falling aprt.....  lol

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 7:24:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Anyone out there like me, who just isn't interested in every story on the planet ? Who would rather live than to watch or read ? How many of us are left ?

T


As you already know I'm like that.  I've done a few lifetimes worth of living in less than a lifetime so far. 
However when it comes to news and what is going on around the world I would rather read about it than live it anyday of the week.
I've been part of enough news in my life so far.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 10:43:36 AM   
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TV hits a primal chord in people in part because it is evocotive of fire.  The glow and flicker appeals to us on a deep level.  I am with Termn8tr on this one, and when I have people over unplug the TV and build a fire in the yard.  It is part of a larger trend.  In the old days people played music..now they listen to professionals...told stories ...now watch tv..made craft art, now buy professional art and engineered utility items, ect.  It has a good side, most people are mediocre musicians at best, now we pick the 1% that has real talent. Same goes for story telling 1 in 100,000 are really good at it, and they work in Media.  It allows the heights of art (or Athletics, Learning, architecture, ect) to be reached and constantly expanded.  But aso produces some real base, rude stuff, and seems to take something from the average person, who now watches instead of does.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 10:58:35 AM   
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3 people can see a car accident ,and all see something diferent. now add tv, with 250 channels, of commericals- with traces of content speckled in.

the entire population should cancel cable at the same time, and demand better content.

i thought we the people owned the airwaves....

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 11:50:02 AM   
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3 people can see a car accident ,and all see something diferent. now add tv, with 250 channels, of commericals- with traces of content speckled in.

the entire population should cancel cable at the same time, and demand better content.

i thought we the people owned the airwaves....


pahunk? Does this mean you won't be joining me to watch Dr.Phil and Oprah today?
Dang it, I was going to pop you some popcorn.


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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 12:33:16 PM   
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Lucky, sometimes..........

You have reminded me, with that post, of days past. For some reason people do have a fascination with watching the TV, or even a movie for that matter. It lights up. Are we drawn like insects ? I remember that.

I remember times when we looked for something good to watch on TV, simply because we wanted to watch TV. Especially when we had a COLOR TV ! Uncanny. I have been fixing TVs for a long time and I think that trait is burned out of me. There is still a desire, once in a while though, for a good story, but the form of media doesn't matter.

However with TV, many are drawn to it like a moth to a light. I was at one time, a very long time ago. I was fascinated by it. Nowadays it feels as though I have broken an addiction. The TV I have chosen is a ten year old XBR RPTV, and you will never see a bluer blue or a redder red. But it remains turned off most of the time.

I can't say I read alot of stories these days, and when I do it is usually erotica. One notable exception lately is Where The Red Fern Grows. (which surprisingly got mentioned here, I thought it was obscure). It was loaned to me by a friend with such high recommendations that I did read it. I looked at it, paperback, not all that big, OK. I do admit to enjoying being, in a way, taken to a different world.

But I am not an addict. The next thing like that I read might be five years from now. I never finished reading Dune. It's just too long.

When I was young, even during the TV addiction days, I never cared all that much for fiction. I actually wanted textbooks. So perhaps I am seeing this "addiction to fiction" from the outside in. But I call them as I see them.

I don't know exactly what forces within me prompted me to write a work of fiction a couple years ago, but that is what I decided to do, and I did. I have gotten some good reviews on it and it is published on Altairboy's website, and I think somewhere else as well. I'm not going to point you to it because it is too kinky.

I reread it from time to time and it gets to me, but it is me. But that is not the point, the point is that I would rather write than read. Try my hand at it. My next one is Cherry Girl, and I have had a few false starts on it. I consider it a challenge because I will write it in first person from the aspect of a Woman in her twenties, hooked on drugs and hooking to pay for it who gets kidnapped by an incredibly wealthy Man.

The reason I am not doing that right now is because I have not figured out the entire plot. It needs to be revealed why she was chosen, and a few other things before everbody can live happily ever after.

But then as usual an oxymoron pops up. If I have a limited desire to read fiction, why write it ? I have no answer to that.

T

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 12:49:48 PM   
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I'm pretty sure back in the days before radio and books, stories and fables were still made up to pass through generations.  I see it as simply an expression of creativity.

As for TV's, yes, people do seem drawn to it like a moth to a flame.  I watch very little TV as I'm usually busy doing other things.  But it helps me sleep at night for some reason, so lately I've been keeping it on for the quiet noise and glow factor.  It's helped my insomnia, go figure.

I think in a world where everything flies past us at lightening speed these days, TV and movies are a form of escapism.  For those few hours, they don't have to think about anything, and can just be lost in the absorption of the story before them.  It's a way for some to relax.  In my opinion, it's used all too frequently, but to each their own.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 1:26:23 PM   
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[With apologies to Theodore Geisel]

I ain't a Lorax, as you can tell by my looks
but I'm begging you Mister, don't dis on the books!
I speak for the books for they have no tongues
And I'm asking you, Sir, at the top of my lungs--
Reading is worthy, it's fun and it's good,
Forget movies and TV if you feel that you should
But try books again, Mr. T if you would?

We should read to give our souls a chance to luxuriate.  ~Henry Miller
 
Books are immortal sons deifying their sires.  ~Plato
 
Books are the quietest and most constant of friends; they are the most accessible and wisest of counselors, and the most patient of teachers.  ~Charles W. Eliot
 
Except a living man there is nothing more wonderful than a book!  A message to us from the dead, - from human souls whom we never saw, who lived perhaps thousands of miles away; and yet these, on those little sheets of paper, speak to us, teach us, comfort us, open their hearts to us as brothers.  ~Charles Kingsley
 
To acquire the habit of reading is to construct for yourself a refuge from almost all the miseries of life.  ~W. Somerset Maugham
 
He who lends a book is an idiot.  He who returns the book is more of an idiot.  ~Arabic Proverb
 
The love of learning, the sequestered nooks,
And all the sweet serenity of books.
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No man can be called friendless who has God and the companionship of good books.  ~Elizabeth Barrett Browning
 
Books can be dangerous.  The best ones should be labeled "This could change your life."  ~Helen Exley
 
Books - the best antidote against the marsh-gas of boredom and vacuity.  ~George Steiner
 
The smallest bookstore still contains more ideas of worth than have been presented in the entire history of television.  ~Andrew Ross
 
A book must be an ice-axe to break the seas frozen inside our soul.  ~Franz Kafka
 
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.  Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.  ~Groucho Marx
 
Americans like fat books and thin women.  ~Russell Baker
 
A dirty book is rarely dusty.  ~Author Unknown


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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 2:09:02 PM   
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I work at a local TV station. (PBS) As such, I have a rather slanted view of what TV could be, and what it unfortunately is.

Sturgeon's Law applies: "98% of everything is shit." (Named for science fiction author Ted Sturgeon.) I watch crap like "Pants off Dance off" or "Dog the Bounty Hunter" or "There's Something about Maria" (or whatever her name is, the TG girl doing the "Bacholorette show) and I just get this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. People actually watch this?

But the point is, there's good stuff with the bad. I'm a confirmed Discovery Channel addict. Mythbusters, The Universe, Countdown with Keith Olberman, The Daily Show, Nova... the good stuff is out there, you just have to be selective. Also, you have to fight the urge to just sit there and be a sponge when there's nothing on. Stop staring at the screen like a drugged trout! Turn it off and go read, or get together with friends.

To be honest, there are a lot of crappy books out there too. During  radio's "golden age" there were plenty of programs that were a waste of time as well. And, I hate to say it, there are also people out there that I'd rather not be caught in the same room with. Again, you have to be selective about who/what you let into your life. A lot of it (about 98%) isn't worth your time.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 2:50:54 PM   
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the entire population should cancel cable at the same time, and demand better content.



I volunteer to be the first person on your list. Go ahead and start up a list here, on a new thread. You can take the list nationwide after you have a few hundred signed up. 

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 4:25:07 PM   
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Define better content.  Why don't you just make better content and put it on the web, if people like it, they will watch it, and it will grow.  TV sucks because it is TV.  A book will be far superior to any story they tell.  A Newpaper delivers far more information in 30 minutes than a TV news Program, even PBS.  A play is far superior live than a TV presentation.  Sports are better live. 

It seems more that you want to take stuff off the Air, so specifically what?  I assume Fox News is at the top of the list.

Just cancell your cable, I did years ago, forget the grandstanding and demands.  There really are a lot of more vital things to put energy into than demanding better TV.

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 4:47:39 PM   
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i dont' have cable either, and i watch maybe 2 hours of television a month....i just don't care about the shows or the reality tv.  i remember my last family reunion at a high mountain lake, it was winter time and very cold outside, but you wouldn't believe how beautiful it was!  all anybody wanted to do was watch tv...i went outside and sat on a rock and listened to the ice on the frozen lake crack..i was all by myself and i couldnt' believe that everyone was choosing tv over what i was experiencing.  i dont' get it and probably never will.


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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 5:00:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

3 people can see a car accident ,and all see something diferent. now add tv, with 250 channels, of commericals- with traces of content speckled in.

the entire population should cancel cable at the same time, and demand better content.

i thought we the people owned the airwaves....


pahunk? Does this mean you won't be joining me to watch Dr.Phil and Oprah today?
Dang it, I was going to pop you some popcorn.



LOL- I dont have the networks. I have the "family" which is crap- showtime, cinamx- $41 a month. [+ktla, and DVR]

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RE: Stories, why ? - 1/21/2008 5:57:52 PM   
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I read.
A LOT.
In most of the fiction books I read, there is someone who LOVES books.
I usually feel to myself that is the author inserting him/her self into the book.
There are a lot of us who love to read. (and some of us are even crazy enough to write about it.)

~Christina

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