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darchChylde -> Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 3:35:41 PM)

First, some (slightly edited) posts of my own on a thread in the Ask a Mistress section that i ended up hijacking:

We, as a family, crack jokes on each other alot; the only downside is that there is one or two (sometimes i will get Sir) that are off limits to me... not by any rules set down, but i just can't see myself tearing Ma'am a new one with a great punchline (also, since we've never really talked about that, i don't know what Her reaction would be),

Ma'am and i were friends before the Ds element; though not for very long.  Also, i made it a point to be clear beforehand that, above all else, we are friends.  But, with the Ds dynamic; i, myself, am unable to look at Her entirely as a friend.  No matter how comfortable i am around Her, She is still my Dominant and i just don't feel like pushing the envelope too far would be worth the risk.  Another thing about me, i'm liable to take something like that too far without intending to; She may be ok with it and forgive me, but i can be pretty hard on myself.


Ok, here are my questions:

1:  In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
   slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
   allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them? 

2:  If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
   drawn?

3:  How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
   insult or two?  Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

4:  Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

Please remember, this is assuming that you are in a casual environment, such as home; and not at a Lifestyle event.




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 3:39:05 PM)

I would say as long as it is all in good fun, and I started it... I am tough enough to take anything I can dish out :P




verysweet -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 3:46:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde

First, some (slightly edited) posts of my own on a thread in the Ask a Mistress section that i ended up hijacking:

We, as a family, crack jokes on each other alot; the only downside is that there is one or two (sometimes i will get Sir) that are off limits to me... not by any rules set down, but i just can't see myself tearing Ma'am a new one with a great punchline (also, since we've never really talked about that, i don't know what Her reaction would be),

Ma'am and i were friends before the Ds element; though not for very long.  Also, i made it a point to be clear beforehand that, above all else, we are friends.  But, with the Ds dynamic; i, myself, am unable to look at Her entirely as a friend.  No matter how comfortable i am around Her, She is still my Dominant and i just don't feel like pushing the envelope too far would be worth the risk.  Another thing about me, i'm liable to take something like that too far without intending to; She may be ok with it and forgive me, but i can be pretty hard on myself.


Ok, here are my questions:

1:  In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
  slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
  allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them? 

2:  If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
  drawn?

3:  How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
  insult or two?  Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

4:  Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

Please remember, this is assuming that you are in a casual environment, such as home; and not at a Lifestyle event.


I don't think it matters where you are or what 'side of the whip' you're on.   I think good-natured ribbing stops being just that when it borders on being hurtful or is intentional hot-button pushing.  I draw the line at that with him or with anyone I care about.




darchChylde -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 3:55:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: verysweet
I don't think it matters where you are or what 'side of the whip' you're on.   I think good-natured ribbing stops being just that when it borders on being hurtful or is intentional hot-button pushing.  I draw the line at that with him or with anyone I care about.


Let me clarify, i do not mean anything hurtful; just a submissive playfully returning their Dominant's friendly teasing and insults.




SilentTigresss -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:00:23 PM)

While i think it is important to have that friendship element, like the one who typed in blue said, it is important also to know where that envelope is. For myself i am aware and will not do the insult(ing) part(even if meant in a jokingly way) of this post. Teasing, bantering, jousting whatever you wish to call it is fine, and it is that way (imho) because you do have that base for friendship. You just have to be aware i think.




CalifChick -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:03:27 PM)

Teasing is fine, saying anything insulting/hurtful, even in a joking way, is not.  He calls me a sass bucket when I joke around.

Cali




mbes -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:05:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde
Ok, here are my questions:

1: In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them?

2: If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
drawn?

3: How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
insult or two? Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

4: Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

Please remember, this is assuming that you are in a casual environment, such as home; and not at a Lifestyle event.

1) I wouldn't be comfortable being with someone who wanted to tease in that way, but wouldn't take it coming back at him/her.
2) The line is where he tells me to stop, or I notice that look in his eye, hopefully before I've gone over it.
3) I love it when I get a good one in! He did train me in the art.
4) When he says "stop".
It's only funny for me when both parties are still laughing.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:08:06 PM)

It's up to the individual relationship. Some would find me very sassy. Others not.
Luckily, the ones I am/have been close to are strong enough in their dominance not to be bothered by a bit of teasing.

~Christina




kyraofMists -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:08:40 PM)

1.  Absolutely; he loves playful banter when it is appropriate.  Alandra and I gang up on him often and he just sits there, shakes his head and laugh.  We will also use his rules and protocols against him.  The most often is that before completing an instruction we have to know who, what, where, when and how.  If he says that he is thirsty, then we will continue to ask questions until we either can't think of anymore or he just says "go do it!"  It is amazing how many questions you can come up with, especially when trying to determine the what and how  *eg*

2.  Typically, we will only do this when the three of us are alone or with family.  However, there are times that he is not in the mood, so we refrain.  In play, we have free reign to be as sarcastic and witty as we want.  If he doesn't want to hear it, he makes it impossible for us to talk.  There was once when he was flicking me with the tips of the flogger and deliberatly missing.  He said, "Damn, I missed." and I started laughing so hard I couldn't talk.  Alandra though knew just what I was thinking and I hear her in the background singing "miss me; miss me; now you gotta kiss me."

3.  Love it!!!

4.  It isn't so much a breach of protocol as knowing what is appropriate behavior at the time.  If we guage wrong and he does not want to hear it, he will let us know. 

Knight's Kyra 




AquaticSub -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:09:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde

Ok, here are my questions:

1:  In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them? 

I can only answer for me and mine. I am allowed and even encouraged to "zing" Valyraen back. When I manage to best him, he always laughs and is pleased with me.
quote:


2:  If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
drawn?

That is a very personal thing. Everyone has things that you just don't tease them about - I know his and he knows mine.
quote:


3:  How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
insult or two?  Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

I do it all the time. I honestly can't see myself being in a relationship where I couldn't.
quote:


4:  Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

It's hard to define. For us, it stops being friendly teasing when feelings are hurt, either of us is actually embaressed, angered or insulted. Honestly, you could probably say that continuing to tease and zing him is part of my protocol since it amuses us and binds us together.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:21:35 PM)

1. Daddy & SO do allow friendly joking and teasing from me.  for example, i have been teasing Daddy about His sudden lateness every day to the office and telling Him He cannot play tennis this Friday. i'm always teasing the SO about spanking his ass for keeping me up all night long.

2. the line is drawn when i overstep my bounds which sometimes does happen if i take the joke/teasing too far.

3.  i'm quite comfortable giving Daddy an insult or two - He knows how to take a joke and likes that about me.  with SO, we're joking all the time about not being a twue BDSM couple.

4. there was a moment when i took a joke too far with SO in which he didn't know if i was kidding or serious.  after taking a timeout, we discussed it and started over.




hejira92 -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:22:21 PM)

Being able to be my playful, pun-ish, sarcastic, weird-observational self is one of the best things about being with Master. And I am often surprised by how well He takes good-natured teasing (especially because He is so self-aware and that includes His own idiosyncracies).
 
Of course, I would never behave in this way in front of others- whether lifestyle or not. I feel it would be disrespectful. But that's my take on it- He has never mentioned it. What He has said, when I get especially silly and close to the edge, is that since He holds the leash, and He knows I will "heel" instantly at command, that I am free to romp about the yard. He will determine where the line is drawn. (And He never has had to- so far [;)])




DaggerDom -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:29:38 PM)

There is no line.  We do whatever is fun at the moment.




camille65 -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:30:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

1. Daddy & SO do allow friendly joking and teasing from me.  for example, i have been teasing Daddy about His sudden lateness every day to the office and telling Him He cannot play tennis this Friday. i'm always teasing the SO about spanking his ass for keeping me up all night long.

2. the line is drawn when i overstep my bounds which sometimes does happen if i take the joke/teasing too far.

3.  i'm quite comfortable giving Daddy an insult or two - He knows how to take a joke and likes that about me.  with SO, we're joking all the time about not being a twue BDSM couple.

4. there was a moment when i took a joke too far with SO in which he didn't know if i was kidding or serious.  after taking a timeout, we discussed it and started over.

New pic!!Nice [:D] And on joking.. he teases me much more than I tease him. I tend to be hyper-sensitive and worry about hurt feelings even if I lightly tease, so I usually refrain.




Shawn1066 -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:41:55 PM)

quote:


Ok, here are my questions:

1:  In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
   slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
   allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them? 

2:  If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
   drawn?

3:  How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
   insult or two?  Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

4:  Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

Please remember, this is assuming that you are in a casual environment, such as home; and not at a Lifestyle event.


1. Yes, I'm allowed to tease my Owner as freely, as long as it doesn't go too far.  The same as it'd be in a vanilla relationship.

2.  Tease?  Of course.  Insult?  No.  We don't insult one another.

3.  I love "zinging" my Owner, though she tends to win just as many, if not more, verbal sparring sessions as I do.  We're both pretty quick like that.

4. It's breaches protocol when it's uncalled for or potentially hurtful.  The same as it'd be in most relationships.

This wouldn't change if we were at a lifestyle event or anything of the sort.  We're the same in the privacy of our own home as we are everywhere else.




rubberpet -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:44:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde

First, some (slightly edited) posts of my own on a thread in the Ask a Mistress section that i ended up hijacking:

We, as a family, crack jokes on each other alot; the only downside is that there is one or two (sometimes i will get Sir) that are off limits to me... not by any rules set down, but i just can't see myself tearing Ma'am a new one with a great punchline (also, since we've never really talked about that, i don't know what Her reaction would be),

Ma'am and i were friends before the Ds element; though not for very long.  Also, i made it a point to be clear beforehand that, above all else, we are friends.  But, with the Ds dynamic; i, myself, am unable to look at Her entirely as a friend.  No matter how comfortable i am around Her, She is still my Dominant and i just don't feel like pushing the envelope too far would be worth the risk.  Another thing about me, i'm liable to take something like that too far without intending to; She may be ok with it and forgive me, but i can be pretty hard on myself.


Ok, here are my questions:

1:  In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
  slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
  allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them? 

2:  If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
  drawn?

3:  How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
  insult or two?  Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

4:  Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

Please remember, this is assuming that you are in a casual environment, such as home; and not at a Lifestyle event.


To answer Question #1, I'm mouthy and a smart ass, so I do give playful zingers.  It isn't to be rude or disrespectful.  I'm just playful at heart.  I feel if I can joke around with Mistress and She doesn't get offended by it, then I can have fun with Her.  It lets me know She can be playful and goofy, too...even though She usually threatens me with physical bodily harm in return (which is enough to make me quit because the chick is psycho enough to do it).  LOL

To answer Question #2, the line is usually very clear.  Anything that insults Her character, Her physical appearance, or something that treads too closely to something traumatic in Her life is off limits to me and that is a line I've personally drawn.  Now if She catches a "blonde moment" or a brain fart, She can bet Her sweet, sexy ass I'm going to sling a zinger Her way.  LOL  In fact, She had quite a few zingers sent Her way lately. [:D]  Hell, I can see me even sneaking up behind Her and either pinching or slapping Her tushy and running off laughing. 

To answer Question #3, read my answer to #2.  I'm very much up for it! [:D]  Mistress knew I wasn't any ordinary subby, so She's just seeing the full repertoire Her property possesses.   Like I said earlier, it's just me being playful.

To answer Question #4, if I say something jokingly and it upsets or offends Her, then it's a breach of protocol because She won't react negatively unless I inadvertantly disrespect Her.  My apology immediately follows.




daddysblondie -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 4:45:59 PM)

We tease each other regularly. Nothing insulting, just poking fun at each other and ourselves as well. It's all in god fun and playful and I am always well aware that there is a line. Daddy described it the other day as me running up to the edge of a cliff, looking at the edge and then running back away from it.
I know if I got too close to the line, he'd warn me and I would stop. It simply isn't fun anymore when it goes too far.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 5:08:26 PM)

quote:


1: In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them?


This dominant does.  I enjoy the banter.

quote:


2: If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
drawn?

When it's not funny.

quote:


3: How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
insult or two? Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?


My slave has a deliciously snarky sense of humor--one which I enjoy cultivating!

quote:


4: Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?


When the atmosphere is no longer casual.




adoracat -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 5:17:53 PM)

Daddy likes my "high spirits".    he also knows that i watch carefully how far i take things, and that one look and i'm *done* with the playfulness, and absolutely in my place.

we are silly a lot...mainly because he thinks i dont get to smile and be happy enough.  so he will absolutely drop his dignity and do things to make his lil girl smile.  he's entirely too good to me.

kitten




SirJohnMandevill -> RE: Friendly joking and teasing, where do you draw the line? (1/23/2008 5:27:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde
Ok, here are my questions:

1:  In a casual environment between a Dominant or Submissive (or Master/Mistress and
  slave) where there are good-natured teasing and insults going; do the Dominants
  allow their submissives to return the favor and tease or insult them? 

2:  If the Dominants do allow their submissives to tease or insult them, where is the line
  drawn?

3:  How do the submissives feel about zinging their Dominants with a good-natured
  insult or two?  Are you up to it, or can you not see yourself do it?

4:  Basically, where does it stop being friendly teasing and start being a breach of protocol?

Please remember, this is assuming that you are in a casual environment, such as home; and not at a Lifestyle event.


Just my .02 zlotys. In the environment you've described, pretty much anything goes for me. My submissive and I are always going to be people first and Dom/sub second.

I would expect my sub to know where the "line" was after we'd been together for awhile. Before -- or even after that circumstance -- if I thought she crossed the line, I'd simply tell her, explain my feelings to her and expect her to get the message for the future.

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)




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