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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
Many orthdox religions do not allow women to show their hair.

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Girlie...I hope you enjoy your hair appt on Fri...and I hope it turns out just how you and your master want it...I know I LOVE getting my hair done...and the occassional pedicure is awesome too  

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
Many orthdox religions do not allow women to show their hair.

My sister is this way, and wears a head covering except at bed time.  Having to show her hair would disrupt her personal and very real spiritual beliefs.  While I can not relate to that, she is my wonderful sister, and I respect her choices for herself.

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Jen meets me... and gives me a hand massage while we're at it.

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ORIGINAL: darchChylde

My, it's been years since i could go get a hand job by my stylist; and i usually had to take her out first.  Right at the salon? i'm impressed.

i'm sorry, i just could help myself; well i could have, but i really didn't want to.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
*nods* A woman's hair has become (and I suspect in no small part because of men's reactions towards an attractive woman) more than simply strands of protein that can be regrown.

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This is a bit of a random post but after talking to a fellow Dominant about our own choice of hair styling, an interesting subject arose. There's a bit of an unusual hard limit out there, and it deals with hair.

Let me say, I am a fan of short hair on girls. Not that I expect anything as sheared as a buzz cut, but I like to see the shoulders and neck. A good rule would be enough to get a fist full. But, in reflection, every sub has posted an objection to the idea of getting a hair cut. I find this suddenly amusing. There have been less objections to piercings, tattoos, spanking, humiliation, nasty names, and roughly every depraved thing one can imagine. The minute you suggest cutting someone's hair, welcome to a new limit. I suppose a piercing heals, but a bad haircut feels like forever?

I think they should add this to the limits lists, and in curiosity, I want to know if anyone else has stories related to their locks, or the loss thereof. So, question, girls: Would you let a Dominant choose your hairstyle?

We'll say they make a salon trip out of it, a professional cut, and not just grabbing a pair of scissors. Cheers!

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ORIGINAL: ForcefuIHands

This is a bit of a random post but after talking to a fellow Dominant about our own choice of hair styling, an interesting subject arose. There's a bit of an unusual hard limit out there, and it deals with hair.

Let me say, I am a fan of short hair on girls. Not that I expect anything as sheared as a buzz cut, but I like to see the shoulders and neck. A good rule would be enough to get a fist full. But, in reflection, every sub has posted an objection to the idea of getting a hair cut. I find this suddenly amusing. There have been less objections to piercings, tattoos, spanking, humiliation, nasty names, and roughly every depraved thing one can imagine. The minute you suggest cutting someone's hair, welcome to a new limit. I suppose a piercing heals, but a bad haircut feels like forever?

I think they should add this to the limits lists, and in curiosity, I want to know if anyone else has stories related to their locks, or the loss thereof. So, question, girls: Would you let a Dominant choose your hairstyle?

We'll say they make a salon trip out of it, a professional cut, and not just grabbing a pair of scissors. Cheers!

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

FR

I'm so TOTALLY jealous of you folks whose hair grows quickly!  Mine does to about the length in my pic, but beyond that..it j.u..s...t  t....a.....k.......e........s  SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long....*sigh*

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub
To you it is just "hair"...as most realize, all people have different value systems..what is valued by one does not necessarily mean it is valued by another..The idea however is the ability to not be flippant when one person is asking another to give up something they highly value, as not a "big deal"..thus you then devalue the difficulty they went through to comply..or become disillusioned when they find they cannot....Tempting

Hi Tempting,

I think, when putting life priorities into perspective, hair (for me) does not rank amongst those losses that should cause trauma.  I remember standing with my mother before a mirror, who, at the age of 50, weighing in at 125 with beautiful dark hair down to her waist, was being treated for breast cancer and now found herself bald and puffy from medication.  It was traumatic for her, naturally.  She mumbled, "Who is this person?  I don't even know her anymore." 

I realized I did not want to put all my value into things like hair and clear skin. Last year when everything in my house was stolen, including family heirlooms and photos, etc., I came to realize things are just things.  So to me, things are things and hair is hair, but human spirit, love, and compassion are the real priorities.  I can live without the rest.

It is not that I mean to devalue what others place value on, it is that for me, losing something that will come back to me is not an issue.  In a year's time I lost my Dad, two uncles and an aunt, my house, all my possessions, my health and my job.  I've recovered from that loss, but the idea of crying over hair, after all that other loss, is not something I personally relate to.  I respect this is not the case for everyone, and I respect their right to value their hair.  But that's where I'm coming from when I think "just hair."

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

FR

I'm so TOTALLY jealous of you folks whose hair grows quickly!  Mine does to about the length in my pic, but beyond that..it j.u..s...t  t....a.....k.......e........s  SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long....*sigh*

Eat Jello.... no seriously... it will grow like nuts. It is also good for your nails.

I eat those little jello cups, take a multi and eat well and mine grows way the hell too fast, along with my nails.

A good multi vitamin helps. Good stuff in your diet will come out in your hair and nails. It is why people who are malnourished have divets in thier nails, and thier hair is limp. You have to have the extra protiens to push through in the hair and nails.

Gwyn

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
*big hugs* that does put it into perspective.

I am so sorry all that happened hun. It certainly give folks a different outlook on life.

To folks who have not gone through that they might have different priorites. Another persons junk is treasure. I am glad that you came out on the otherside of this still good, and stronger that takes a lot.

Gwyn

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
*big hugs* that does put it into perspective.

I am so sorry all that happened hun. It certainly give folks a different outlook on life.

To folks who have not gone through that they might have different priorites. Another persons junk is treasure. I am glad that you came out on the otherside of this still good, and stronger that takes a lot.

Gwyn

Thank you, Gwyn.  :)  I didn't write it as a woe-is-me post, but to explain part of my position on the topic.  We all have life circumstances which help shape our views, and so often we see discussions and debates here without knowing or understanding what's behind them.  I wasn't trying to draw attention to the woes - those have been worked through and no longer haunt me.  But they certainly played a huge part in my current views of today, so I thought I'd put 'em out there.

Thanks for being so sweet. :)

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ORIGINAL: nothing4ever

I am actually a female. I do not understand this. It is JUST hair & it will grow back... to me anyway. So to say it's just men who don't get it is oh so wrong.

Smiles.

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: darchChylde

Saying that not backing down on a hard limit means that a submissive is not completely submissive is like a teenaged boy telling his girlfriend "If you love me, you'll go all the way with me."  It is downright weak, manipulative and dispicable.  There are much better ways of attempting to get a submissive to do your will.

I respectfully disagree.  Maybe we place different value for the word "completely."  Completely, in my mind, means 100%, all, total, nothing outside of that box.  If I have a pint of ice cream and I eat it completely, there is nothing left in the container. 

Holding onto something that one will not put in one's dominant's authority means that something is owned by the one holding it, and that something is not given to the dominant.  That means everything, in the literal sense, is not submitted.

However, it may be that submitting completely means, to some, submitting completely to the boundaries both submissive and dominant have agreed to.  If that is the case, and the limit of hair cutting falls within those boundaries, then no big deal. Submission is still complete, as you are completely submitting XYZ, which was agreed to.

I did not see anyone say submission was not complete if one won't cut one's hair. Maybe I missed that.  But I will say one is not completely owned if one withholds the dominant of ownership of something.  Maybe that's not a popular view, but it's mine.  And it's not intended to diminish anyone's submission.  It's just how I define ownership.


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