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Termyn8or -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/29/2008 10:07:11 PM)

Does milk react with the dough though ? Seems to me it would feed the yeast.

On an unrelated point, I know of one application where milk cannot be used instead of water, a cheese sauce. I have found that milk dilutes the flavor but does not lower the viscosity, which is what I need.

Milk in bread is another thing, the bread started out with no fat at all, and now has some. Actually it is probably pretty good. But if you would use skim milk, why not whole milk ? It seems my philosophy has become 'less of something better'. Not more of something worse.

So anyway, I would think that the bread would be more moist, or at least seem so with the fat in it. It also might not dry out in your fridge as fast.

Also, I meant it about the French toast. We have had it come out very dense. Not hard, but dense. I made some French toast and it was kickass. Figure one egg or more per slice. I think I used three eggs for two slices. And fry them in butter.

I tell you what, when done you do not have to put anything at all on them, a good thing for me because I have refrained fron using sugar for a very long time. I just put some more butter on it and ate it.

Got to know this, butter, bacon grease, lard, none of it is bad for you, in fact it is good for you, as long as you don't get too much. Hell, it is a proven fact that even drinking too much water can kill.

Another thing, when we were making bread it did come out dense, sometimes denser than others, but it is still good. You just cut it thinner for sandwiches and stuff. That is what I woukld term a robust bread, and there are a whole lot of people still out there that like that. I know I do, but I will slice it myself.

Enough for now, I need to go cause some trouble somewhere.

T




MissMorrigan -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 2:44:00 AM)

I had never used it before either, which was why I was curious as to why all the recipes in the official booklet called for skimmed milk powder. I still haven't purchased any and I'm not sure what I did differently (maybe just a tad more olive oil and hotter water) with the bread I made yesterday in the Morphy Richards but it came out light and as one would expect stroneground shop bought bread.
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MissMorrigan -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 2:50:18 AM)

Hi Angelic, I may have been a little dramatic entitling this thread 'very serious', but what we shove in our bodies is a very serious matter and while making everything from scratch is time consuming, at least I can govern what goes into my food items so that I'm not eating all those vile additives and the ingredients are 'pure'. Glad you liked the thread and thank you for offering those recipes, I'll certainly be writing to you.

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MissMorrigan -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 2:54:47 AM)

Hi T, the best pancakes are American/Scottish. I haven't had those in years though. I adore French toast and would have that as a supper item, so great suggestion. At the moment, my boy and I have some of the bread I make for lunch with slices of fresh tomatoes, pepperoni and goats cheese with olive oil drizzled over it... or as a supper item with homemade soup to dunk it in.
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MissMorrigan -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 2:58:19 AM)

In the UK we don't have such variations on bread mixes, Alumbrado, which is a shame, so at the moment I take a standard wholegrain/meal bread recipe and adapt it.
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MissMorrigan -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 3:05:41 AM)

Italian breads...Now we're talking some seriously sexy food!

I don't, and never have, used milk in previous bread recipes, so doubt I'll start now to be honest.

When living in my old house I had an old fashioned airing cupboard which I used to prove my bread in after kneading and that is something I miss and due to limited time, the breadmaker will have to do. I so agree with you regarding the sensuality of working the dough and being able to enjoy the final product - Working wet clay is also very sensual.

I hope I can find that recipe for the orange/ginger/spice bread, that sounds scrumptious!

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aviinterra -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 4:54:05 AM)

I love my breadmaker and use it often, but almost always only on the dough setting.
You can omit the milk from most recipies without any harm to the bread, just substitute water. However, certain breads come out delicious on milk, and, dare I say, buttermilk and even sourcream. However, I still have not had the guts to experiment with yogurt. :)
If you only use the dough setting and then set out the dough to rise once more and then bake it in your oven, put in a pan with some water on the very bottom rail. This will cause steam to rise in the oven while the bread is baking, taking it higher still in the first few minutes and creating a very nice golden, crispy yet thin crust. Try also making a starter sponge which you can add in half cup increments ( half cup for a normal sized loaf, a cup for a loaf twice as big, etc. ) Basically take a cup of flour, 1/4 tea. yeast, half a tablesp. of salt and enough water to make a 'watery' and sticky dough. Let it rise for about 24 hours covered. This will inflate your bread even more and you can freeze the sponge for up to 2 months.





DesFIP -> RE: Very Serious Thread (1/30/2008 9:32:04 AM)

I don't bake it in the machine. But it's great if you just use it for dough, eliminating the need to knead.

Traditional baguettes or Italian bread doesn't use milk. I will use either milk powder or fresh milk in the machine, but only the powder if I set it for a delay before starting.




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