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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 4:39:47 AM

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Of course there are protocols for leaving a master just as there are collaring ceremonies. Usually, it involves the ritual sacrifice of a small, furry animal within a pentagram under the full moon to symbolize the end of the relationship before you walk away into the dark to live your life as a submissive ronin. I recall seeing it described in great detail on Castle's Realm once, but unfortunately that site isn't around any more.

Be well, and live long and prosper.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 5:30:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: GrizzlyBear

You just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don’t need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free.

You might try an injunction, too.

this has gone down well with coffee....

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 5:38:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Rule

Well, if he is not the One, then he is not your master, but a master. Then it is not his fault. Simply say that you made a mistake when you thought that he was your master.

Sounds to me like he is married...

The former would probably work as an ending that got me a sense of power back....
and the latter....well last time i cleaned i went through the paper work and there was no sign of a wife......

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 8:12:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: happypervert

Of course there are protocols for leaving a master just as there are collaring ceremonies. Usually, it involves the ritual sacrifice of a small, furry animal within a pentagram under the full moon to symbolize the end of the relationship before you walk away into the dark to live your life as a submissive ronin. I recall seeing it described in great detail on Castle's Realm once, but unfortunately that site isn't around any more.

Be well, and live long and prosper.

There is a rumour that because they exposed that sacred ceremony a secret group of powerful dominates destroyed Castlerealm out of revenge.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 8:25:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: happypervert

Of course there are protocols for leaving a master just as there are collaring ceremonies. Usually, it involves the ritual sacrifice of a small, furry animal within a pentagram under the full moon to symbolize the end of the relationship before you walk away into the dark to live your life as a submissive ronin. I recall seeing it described in great detail on Castle's Realm once, but unfortunately that site isn't around any more.

Be well, and live long and prosper.

There is a rumour that because they exposed that sacred ceremony a secret group of powerful dominates destroyed Castlerealm out of revenge.

Uh oh

Anonymous

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 8:31:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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I don't think you really want to change and grow- I've pointed out your pattern and predicted your next steps for a few cycles now. Every time I try to warn you, you simply dismiss me.

Here you are again. You can't even say you weren't warned this time.

Take responsibility and stop whining. I know forums love a good drama and you'll always have something of a captive audience, but this uses up just about the last of your sympathy points. Take care on that.

I'm not dismissing you LA not at all.
And I know you have been following my mind set. It's really not solely for me believe it or believe it not, that I posted.
This is the first time I have taken a master as opposed to being submissive. There is one valueable thing i have received back it's those who are very simlar to me who have privately emailed me and therefore I can see in THEIR mind set the torments they go through in being both highly functional fully grown women and of a slave mindset.
The two 'frames' of mind are not easily reconcileable but there you go.....it's who I am and who others are.
Maybe I simply have offended others becasue I have posted the query under Ask a Master rather than under the forum ask a Submissive.
Maybe the message in part is: look Prinsexx please don't post when you have personal issues. I don't really know. But I don't know where else issues come from.
But for the most part I have been given feedback at least that makes me feel less like a freak; you know as seriously strong career woman and single mom who sexually and emotionally simply also wants to 'belong' to someone who can master the rest of her.
Maybe it's the 'slave' types who don't come out on the forums enough, aren't allowed to or are controlled in a way where air time is a priviledge.
Maybe there are only slaves who have courteous, loving and thoughtful masters (this we both know is lalaland).
And yes maybe it's a simple case of incompatibility.....but I am not ignoring or discouting anyone's input.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 8:37:52 AM

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Prinnie, you know I love you and adore you.
Firstly. No there is no protocol. If you want to leave, leave. Only you can make that choice. Deep down I know you know that. Yes you are in the slave mindset right now, but you know the realities.

Secondly. You hit the deck hard - you have flu, and if it is the one that is going around right now, it sucks big time. You have work on and you have just gone through a really emotional few weeks. Breathe in girl - and hold it a second. Sheesh, I really need to work on some meditation techniques with ya.

Third. He hasn't abandoned you and deep down you know that too. He simply isn't of the same mindset as you are. He doesn't do the emotional thang and he doesn;t know how to deal with it. Bottom line is, I know when you two are together it rocks, but he leaves you hanging. Not healthy for you and its not that he is mean or a sadist he just isn't that kind of emotional person. So, you have to decide - what is more important - that you get the emotion or care, or that you submit regardless. Personally, you have me worried because you know what you need, but you keep settling instead of being honest with yourself.

You invest too much and trust too much very quickly and have high expectations which make you crumble when they don't have good follow through. So you are left with the feeling suddenly of 'but what about me?' I love ya to pieces.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 8:46:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Prinnie, you know I love you and adore you.
Firstly. No there is no protocol. If you want to leave, leave. Only you can make that choice. Deep down I know you know that. Yes you are in the slave mindset right now, but you know the realities.

Secondly. You hit the deck hard - you have flu, and if it is the one that is going around right now, it sucks big time. You have work on and you have just gone through a really emotional few weeks. Breathe in girl - and hold it a second. Sheesh, I really need to work on some meditation techniques with ya.

Third. He hasn't abandoned you and deep down you know that too. He simply isn't of the same mindset as you are. He doesn't do the emotional thang and he doesn;t know how to deal with it. Bottom line is, I know when you two are together it rocks, but he leaves you hanging. Not healthy for you and its not that he is mean or a sadist he just isn't that kind of emotional person. So, you have to decide - what is more important - that you get the emotion or care, or that you submit regardless. Personally, you have me worried because you know what you need, but you keep settling instead of being honest with yourself.

You invest too much and trust too much very quickly and have high expectations which make you crumble when they don't have good follow through. So you are left with the feeling suddenly of 'but what about me?' I love ya to pieces.

the.dark.

I need you to tag team with me. A friend of mine in the couse of one day went from 1. deciding she needed some time for herself and didn't want to see her man, 2. him calling and saying he mght be too busy to see her and she deciding that she wanted to see him to (and assuming that since he might be too busy it was a sign that the relationship was over) 3. spending the next 4 ours trying to telepathically get him to call to say if he could see her or not.

I spent the entire day trying to remind her that he had a life that was interfering with his desired life (he had to pack and move out of his house in less then a week and he had a job) and finally I told her that just because he didn't get her telepathic messages didn't mean he was rejecting her but that her magic wand didn't work any better that day then it ever had.

People tend to get so focussed on themselves that they forget that it's only all about them to themselves and that other people have obligations, priorities and interests that don't revolve around them.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 9:11:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: DS4DUMMIES

Prinsexx....his unwillingness to release you...is more BDSM "fantasy world" stuff....the choice is yours...NOT his....throw him the hell out on his ass and find someone who will truly value you....

Thank you. i wanted to ask how in the world can someone stop you from leaving. All the contracts in the world do not mean s**t. Just leave, wtf can he do about it?

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 10:03:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: catize

from embracing his emotional sadism to deciding it really is not what you want.

Right now I get the choice, but I am not getting how much emotionsal masochism I'm into. In a nutshell that's it.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 10:24:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Prinnie, you know I love you and adore you.

i know, i know, godammit it, i fkn know. fcuk it i know.
UK small island intense fkn maso-sadism psychological domination up the wazoo pain in every orifice and modality i know you do, going crazy fkn hot and cold unable to stand alone slave mindset blow my fkin intellectual normality boxes up in bits screamin who the fk is listening everybody loves me except HIM the fk i do......
coffee yes that sounds very civilised......thank you.

takin a deeper breath down into my empty fkn solar plexus chakra i know you do..............

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 10:41:41 AM

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~~~~~i know, i know, godammit it, i fkn know. fcuk it i know.
UK small island intense fkn maso-sadism psychological domination up the wazoo pain in every orifice and modality i know you do, going crazy fkn hot and cold unable to stand alone slave mindset blow my fkin intellectual normality boxes up in bits screamin who the fk is listening everybody loves me except HIM the fk i do......
coffee yes that sounds very civilised......thank you. ~~~~~

RED FLAG! RD FLAG! RED FLAG!

This person is a counselor?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

god help us all

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:09:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: domahpet

~~~~~i know, i know, godammit it, i fkn know. fcuk it i know.
UK small island intense fkn maso-sadism psychological domination up the wazoo pain in every orifice and modality i know you do, going crazy fkn hot and cold unable to stand alone slave mindset blow my fkin intellectual normality boxes up in bits screamin who the fk is listening everybody loves me except HIM the fk i do......
coffee yes that sounds very civilised......thank you. ~~~~~

RED FLAG! RD FLAG! RED FLAG!

This person is a counselor?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

god help us all

ok so if you want to have this be about your preconceived ideas of what a counsellor/therapist are then that's altogether a different thread.
And if you want my web site in that respect then i will email it to you privately. There have been many occasions on here when people have asked for a therapist who understands kink....well there you have it. I am both and take this as my kink CPD (continuous professional development). If you really want to know what it is like to be a professional who has kink experience then i get CPD in both areas.

This isn't about me being arrogant enough to state i know and to keep re-iterating how i KNOW more than others do. Indeed not. It started out as a sincere request, maybe worded in the wrong way, as is there a prtocol on leaving a Master seemed just about enogh words to fit in the header.

Wold you visit a counsellor/therapist who paid lip service to knowing about kink? Who in the back of their frameworks lodged a little bit of knowledge which kind of opened up the category paraphilias somewhat but then stil tried to return you back on the pasth of 'nillanormality?

I am not a therapist 24/7 and guess what: all carers, health interventionists and therapists of any sort are also human beings.
My heroes in the psychology world, could, given the evidence of their lives, be considered alcoholics, trance nediums, wife beaters and orally fixated cocaine addicts, repressed homosexuals and social phobics.....i'll send you a list of who my heroes and heroines are if you want...

the question i asked wasn't just for ME.

The question i asked might appear that i don't know, that at the end of the day, i have choices (i know and love choice theory also) BUT most of what i do is progressed from the raw experiences of my life as well as dead man's theories on the function of the personality et. al.

Are we not of the mindset that it doesn't have to look a certain way to work?

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:17:20 AM

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Coffee it is.
Girl - it's good to vent, ya know I recommend it.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:22:02 AM

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Reasonable question here.
Why do you keep coming onto threads and singling out people who you don't 'get' and attempt sarcasm or try and place doubt on their posting/integrity/metnal health blahblahblah. Are you just constantly negative?

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:25:59 AM

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~~Wold you visit a (counsellor)/therapist who paid lip service to knowing about kink?~~

nope, never. >four years of schooling followed by two more of internship, including six real time years of practise here.<
a few posts ago you claimed to be a counselor, now you are claiming to be a therapist.
there no way you can work in the mental health field and not know the difference so which is it?
when you figure it out please write me on the other side
and yes you do have choices, we all do , every day. some are easy, some not so much.
but when you choose to dump your shit out for everyone to see, expect anything.
also realize that if anyone on these boards are close to you, you may be doing yourself and your career a HUGE dis-service.
its not just me, its almost eveyone else here as well.

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:30:31 AM

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not negative at all. just trying to figure it out lol
there are people here on this thread in the same field who really wanted to help,
but the whole thread is so scattered its hard to make sense of.
nothing but good will here, id really like to see a resolution to the ops
dilema

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:35:35 AM

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Hey dark..:).... I think the amount of restraint shown in this thread is remarkable. It would seem to be a tribute to how much people like prin. If you look at it objectively?.....whew.

Jeff

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:36:05 AM

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its not just me, its almost eveyone else here as well.

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~~Wold you visit a (counsellor)/therapist who paid lip service to knowing about kink?~~

nope, never. >four years of schooling followed by two more of internship, including six real time years of practise here.<
a few posts ago you claimed to be a counselor, now you are claiming to be a therapist.
there no way you can work in the mental health field and not know the difference so which is it?
when you figure it out please write me on the other side
and yes you do have choices, we all do , every day. some are easy, some not so much.
but when you choose to dump your shit out for everyone to see, expect anything.
also realize that if anyone on these boards are close to you, you may be doing yourself and your career a HUGE dis-service.
its not just me, its almost eveyone else here as well.

do you really believe you speak for everyone here?

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RE: is there a protocolfor leaving a Master - 1/31/2008 11:36:34 AM

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ok, is all cool - just an observation hey. Thanks for responding.

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