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AFace4Smother -> The problem with paganism (9/4/2005 12:13:18 PM)
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Modern paganism is diluted, watered down, neutered and weak "New Age" fluff. it is largely the product of Freemasonic revisionism, as the founders of modern neo-pagan thinking were nearly all Freemasons resulting in what, in most cases, boils down to diluted freemasonic ritual, bits of middle-eastern ceremonial magick, with psuedo-celtic window-dressing. Most people would probably be very surprised to learn just how much of the "New Age"movement was engendered by proto-Nazi aryanists and in some cases actual Nazis. What is the problem with modern paganism? the answer is manifold. First of all, most pagans have been so indoctrinated by the judeo-christian ideology that has become ambient to western culture that they are unable to divorce these ethics from their supposedly non-christian religious practices. You simply cannot take out important parts of paganism because they are not "PC" without destroying the very spirit of these beliefs. To do so is an insult to our ancestors. The Great Rite(ritual sex), natural hallucinogens, and perhaps even headhunting and human sacrifice are an important part of these beliefs and must continue to be a part of them. Period. Also modern wicca/paganism is based on the mythical idea that it is a sort of universal "Old Religion", this is a misrepresentation of paganism and animism as synonyms. Actually the true "old religion" is animism(sometimes called shamanism mistakenly which is actually the practice of gnosis that originated in animism), which is the wellspring of ALL religion. Paganism is a farmers religion, and farming is a new practice relatively speaking and has never been universal. furthermore farming (as civilized cultures practice it ) is the rape of the earth. Farming of this sort is inherently the plunder, conquest and enslavement of the land and in time the Earth itself. It is war. It seems a bit hypocritical to claim to be an "earth religeon" or to worship nature and then to worship agricultural deities that in essence represent the conquest of nature and the rape of the earth. The original people of this planet were not farmers, they were mostly hunter-gatherers, and they were not pagans but rather they were animists. Their gods were not chimerical entities dwelling in some remote heaven or Olympus, rather their gods were alongside them and all around them, dwelling in the forest, and the mountains, the rocks and streams. It is suspicious that the civilizer gods, the agricultural gods, of nearly all civilized cultures, were said to have descended from the sky or the stars to teach man to toil and build, to mine and to plunder the earth, and yea, even to make wars of conquest, often on the less "civilized" hunter-gatherer/animist tribes around them(now the story of Cain and Abel starts to make some sense). So in conclusion it seems paganism is a step away from the pure worship of nature and the Earth's indigenous gods, and toward the worship of what sounds conspicuosly like extraterrestrial imposters posing as gods in order to enslave and civilize/domesticate us. Of course some of this is speculation on my part but i am not speaking of this as a complete outsider, I have have been a serious researcher of suppressed archeology for many years and have been a student of the occult for twice as long, and an initiate of a Gardnerian coven to boot (I've since moved on to animism mixed with a bit of Thelema). Of course i realize I have made some pretty strong charges here and i invite discussion and encourage others to research and check into what I have said here. By all means don't take my word for it. If you are interested I can also recommend excellent books, and I recommend as an excellent starting point the books of Daniel Quinn including Ishmael, The Story Of B, My Ishmael, Beyond Civilization, Providence, and The Holy.
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